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Post by tarkintino on Feb 9, 2021 12:27:54 GMT -5
I do not think Bob Brown served those stories well. The included the lead up to the Celestial Madonna and Avengers/Defenders. You are not kidding. If the stories were not that strong, a Brown-illustrated comic would be so easy to leave on the stands. Fortunately, some of the stories were quite good, so one had to sort of squint to get past Brown's work.
About Mantis' abilities...yeah, that conflict's resolution raises a few eyebrows.
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Post by berkley on Feb 9, 2021 14:24:04 GMT -5
I don't find it at all implausible that Mantis could take out Captain America, especially in a surprise attack.
Thor is less believable, but I think it falls into the general category of unbelievable things of this kind that routinely happen in superhero comics rather than being a problem with Mantis specifically. Would we find it just as unlikely if Captain America momentarily knocked down Thor with a punch he wasn't expecting? I suspect not, but we should be, as the disparity in strength and power is roughly the same.
Ennis's The Boys is the only comic I can think of in which these vast disparities in the strength and power of different characters is taken seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2021 15:40:16 GMT -5
there was that time Sandman stopped Spider-man with a dry enema:
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 9, 2021 15:53:47 GMT -5
Oh....
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 9, 2021 16:41:12 GMT -5
NSFW
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 9, 2021 22:17:41 GMT -5
This is my look at the following combat matches in comics and just had to shake my head. There's just no way these battles end like they did. # 1Batman beats SupermanSuperman just has too many powers and abilities to be beaten by Batman. He could have fried him with his heat vision from a distance. Yeah--I've always felt 75% of Superman's problems could be solved by heat vision. The other thing he doesn;t take advantage of is flying up a few miles and dropping people. He should be able to calculate a height that will disable--but not kill--someone. For creatures like Doomsday, toss 'em into the sun. I suspect Garth Ennis agrees with you (See Homelander). It's hard to have Superman in a fight without someone in his weight class, really. Angel against anyone is silly... oh boy, he can fly, great! The early X-Men books had to twist themselves in knots to give him something to do (alot like Aqualad in Teen Titans) My pet peeve is when Marvel uses Captain America against galactic level threats, and he beats them with his courage and preserverance. As inspiring as the story can be, it doesn't make even a small fraction of sense.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2021 5:14:13 GMT -5
Some of the matches can be explained as the more powerful opponent just looking past the other person.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2021 5:19:18 GMT -5
#12 Green lantern vs. Soap JLA # 110
I thought the ring protected the wearer from harm? I guess this was a silly plot device to have the replacement GL ( John Stewart) make his first appearance in the JLA book.
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Post by Chris on Feb 10, 2021 10:55:42 GMT -5
#12 Green lantern vs. Soap JLA # 110
I thought the ring protected the wearer from harm? I guess this was a silly plot device to have the replacement GL ( John Stewart) make his first appearance in the JLA book. It's a yellow bathtub.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 11:58:39 GMT -5
^ is he WEARING the ring tho?
looks like he took it off for the shower, so that's why.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2021 12:21:08 GMT -5
Maybe the ring was hidden in a part of his body.
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Post by kirby101 on Feb 10, 2021 12:36:36 GMT -5
Where Sandman could find it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 14:08:28 GMT -5
y'all are thinking of the wrong kind of "ring" but this is a FAMILY site! y'all behave
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 10, 2021 20:49:51 GMT -5
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 10, 2021 21:38:28 GMT -5
Not fond of that Deathstroke thing, either (hate that whole mini-series). Using 90% of your brain doesn't necessarily increase your strength or reflexes, not to mention his depth perception issues, with one eye. The Flash's reflexes are near instantaneous; Meltzer is telling me that he can't see the sword and tak a slight step to the left? Unh-uh. Also, the Black Canary thing doesn't work; just throwing a hood over their head doesn't stifle their ability to make noise. At best, it would slightly muffle things, but wouldn't stop Canary from emitting her sonic scream. It would originate in her throat, which is still unobstructed.
Nope, doesn't work; but, then again that is just a couple of things from a laundry list of problems I have with the entire work.
The whole thing is helped by the fact that it seems to be a big exercise in misogyny, from the retro-rape and murder of Sue Dibny, to the violence against the female characters, as seen here, to the hanging scene of Jean Loring, to the ultimate reveal.
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