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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:49:03 GMT -5
CBR ARTICLERumors from "credible" sources are starting to circulate that Marvel is lookng oat putting FF comics on hiatus to spite Fox. It seems Ike Perlmutter has taken a personal grudge against Fox and wants Marvel to stop promoting properties that have. X-Men is too big, so FF is taking the hit... Marvel without the FF almost seems sacrilegious.... Breevort as always is acting as a spin doctor it seems...as he responds on social media to questions about the rumors -M
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Post by hondobrode on May 30, 2014 23:05:09 GMT -5
Yet another way Bizarro-Marvel operates.
Can you imagine what Stan thinks ?
I get it, kind of, but it's sick thinking.
To save the village we had to destroy it.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 23:06:52 GMT -5
Yet another way Bizarro-Marvel operates. Can you imagine what Stan thinks ? I get it, kind of, but it's sick thinking. To save the village we had to destroy it. That's Ike Perlmutter thinking 101... and that is why this one scares me...if his name wasn't attached, I would laugh it off, but Ike, Ike is a special kind of guy.... -M
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Post by Cei-U! on May 30, 2014 23:14:59 GMT -5
Check yesterday's Jude Terror column at theouthousers.com for a pretty thorough debunking of this rumor.
Cei-U! I summon the BS!
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Post by hondobrode on May 30, 2014 23:17:03 GMT -5
Oh I totally agree.
I'll bet it happens.
I've thought the same thing before, that Marvel would shut it off at the source to kill for a lesser franchise that isn't Spidey or the X-Men.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 23:21:52 GMT -5
This is all a ploy to get everyone to buy the "final" issue of FF, and then the "first" issue a month later.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on May 31, 2014 1:12:22 GMT -5
Please,give me a break..Fantastic Four sells what,30-35,00 copies to comic fans who've been buying it for years.That means absolutely nothing to promoting the movie to the public. Nothing.Who's trying to kid who?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 1:15:03 GMT -5
Can't stand the cast of the new movie...just awful...
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 1:45:36 GMT -5
Please,give me a break..Fantastic Four sells what,30-35,00 copies to comic fans who've been buying it for years.That means absolutely nothing to promoting the movie to the public. Nothing.Who's trying to kid who? The point may not be on the movie going public front but on courting investors. Who wants to invest on a high risk project that had 2 under-performing predecessors on a property that isn't even in print any more? Not likely, but a lot of the up front money for these blockbusters now come from investors, make investors skittish and you can hurt Fox's bottom line making it harder to keep these in production. Who knows, Ike doesn't like Fox, Fox doesn't like that Disney beat them out on Lucasfilm, it's a lot of bruised egos taking the forefront and when that happens logic goes out the window. -M
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 2:47:34 GMT -5
Honestly, I wouldn't be bothered if they did. The book has been terrible since Hickman left, and was terrible for years beforehand. It really needs someone with a compelling vision who actually understands the characters, has a decent (long) story to tell to reinvigorate it.
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Post by Dizzy D on May 31, 2014 2:48:45 GMT -5
Check yesterday's Jude Terror column at theouthousers.com for a pretty thorough debunking of this rumor. Cei-U! I summon the BS! Agreed, the whole story sounds so dumb and unbelievable.
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Post by Spike-X on May 31, 2014 3:46:00 GMT -5
I find it very difficult to believe this rumour, although it's interesting that Tom Brevoort hasn't come right out and said, 'No it isn't true', preferring instead to evade and sidestep the question.
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Post by Nowhere Man on May 31, 2014 4:21:58 GMT -5
Can't stand the cast of the new movie...just awful... What's hilarious to me is that they miscast Reed Richard's so badly that its made a lot of people forget African American Johnny Storm. I mean, jeez, has any version of Reed looked like Rachel Maddow? Anyone?
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Post by Icctrombone on May 31, 2014 6:38:34 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me if it was true. Big Corporations have no emotional attachment to these characters like we do.
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Post by tolworthy on May 31, 2014 10:23:24 GMT -5
I realise it's a hoax / humour site. But speaking as a subscriber and uber fan, I would be happy if the present FF went away. It would be great (IMO) if people would step back for a few years, then go back and either create something new, or remember what it was that made the title so great in the early days.
Dr Who is a good example. They took a few years off then did something different, and did it well. Personally I prefer the original stories, but the new stories have their own different appeal and they are popular. Great! We can still go back to the older stories and when the reboot eventually burns out who knows, we may get the old style back again. Everyone wins. But the FF? They will not let it either change or die. It's like a decaying corpse, but they keep painting on ever thicker make up and kicking it to make it move.
I hate sounding like The Comic Book Guy ("Worst. Issue. Ever.") so I tend not to comment on new issues. But to give an idea of my feelings, the most recent issue ended up as a base for my cat's litter tray. And I freely admit that the current run is better than the previous one, and that Hickman's run was the best for years. But that is faint praise.
What is so bad with the FF? Simply that there is no story. That is, no events have consequences. If lucky they have the ILLUSION of consequences until the next writer comes along, but even there the events are recycled from previous issues. I don't blame the writers: permanent change is banned, so what can they do? They may as well give the company what it wants and take the money.
Take the current arc for example: it's another reboot (the third in three years IIRC). Characters are losing powers again - the same theme as the previous year's reboot. The team is hated and in court - how often has that happened? Being hated was fresh in issue 2, issue 7 and issue 9, and being in court was still fresh in the overmind saga (121?) It was getting a bit stale by the 330s (acts of vengeance I think). And now it's all I can do to stifle the yawns. The whole current run is like a parody of itself - "the end of the Fantastic Four" that trope is so stale that Byrne was mocking it inside the comic in the early 1980s! The main difference now is that they drag it out for endless issues, diluting any accidental interest to homeopathic levels. And don't get me started on how the characters are nothing like the original team and have been stripped of anything that made them interesting.
Even the very best issues are terrible. The latest one, issue 5, is being praised for its fun nostalgia fest, as nostalgia is all the team is good for at this point, but they can't even do that right. The sliding time scale has destroyed so much of the original stories that the motivations no longer make any sense. For example, the events of issue 1 are attacked because everyone acted so jumpy - racing to the flare gun and causing destruction along the way: this made perfect sense in an era of nuclear and communist paranoia, an era before mobile phones when you either fired the flare or waited til the evening. But it makes no sense now. And of course the issue involves the team mainly sitting or standing around, which is all they seem to do these days. Do I really need to compare the new issue 5 to the original issue 5 (the first appearance of Dr Doom)?
I could go on. And get off my lawn.
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