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Post by EdoBosnar on Sept 25, 2023 6:51:25 GMT -5
I don't know about "best" comic Kirby ever did but I really enjoyed the recent reprinting of one of his early stories, "Starr Warriors: The Adventures of Adam Starr"
It's simplistic but really fun in a pulp sci-fi way. This material is also available in electronic form at the Digital Comic Museum (and, I assume, Comic Book+ as well); just look for Crash Comics in the Holyoke Publishing section. Some of the scans are not very good, but it's a good way to sample that material. Anyway, as I understand it, the Image book collects the stories in the first three issues of that series, but according to the creator credit notes at Digital Comic Museum, as well as the GCD, the stories in the fourth and fifth issues were scripted, but not drawn, by Kirby as well.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 25, 2023 9:47:00 GMT -5
This is a good place to put this post I found on Facebook from Chuck Gower. It goes to how the Kirby books at DC were not the failures people say they were and that there was a lot going on in the comic business at the time.
As for the other Fourth World titles, I have seen them right in the middle of the DC sales, outselling many books that were not cancelled.
"Kirby's books didn't sell" is just a fabrication.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 25, 2023 9:49:51 GMT -5
This is one of my favorites. "The Pact" was fantastic.
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Post by Rob Allen on Sept 25, 2023 12:55:58 GMT -5
The Fourth World titles were among the biggest victims of affidavit return fraud. Comics dealers would buy crates of them straight from the distributors, and the distributors would report them to the publisher as unsold. If Bob Beerbohm ever gets his book finished, the details will be in there.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 25, 2023 15:11:08 GMT -5
The Fourth World titles were among the biggest victims of affidavit return fraud. Comics dealers would buy crates of them straight from the distributors, and the distributors would report them to the publisher as unsold. If Bob Beerbohm ever gets his book finished, the details will be in there. This!! That was a major part of other books that "didn't sell". Adam's Green Lantern and X-Men, Early issues of Conan, Kirby..
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Post by Rob Allen on Sept 25, 2023 15:33:09 GMT -5
It was really short-sighted on the distributors' part. When the books looked like they weren't selling, the publishers cancelled them, so the distributors lost out on future easy money from the comics dealers.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 25, 2023 15:47:02 GMT -5
It was really short-sighted on the distributors' part. When the books looked like they weren't selling, the publishers cancelled them, so the distributors lost out on future easy money from the comics dealers. Wonder if they even thought about that, when going for the cash grab. Also, I doubt they anticipated the early 70s crash that went through the industry. Even with the Fraud, most of those titles sold enough to keep going in a normal market.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 25, 2023 21:03:17 GMT -5
Paul Levitz has gone on record, saying he looked at the figures that DC had, for the period and they were selling quite well, relative to much of the rest of DC's line. There has been some conjecture that they were deemed not selling well enough, for the page rate they were giving to Kirby, even though they required a pretty darn high output. Suffice to say, there was a lot of jealousy of Kirby at DC and some old resentments of he and Simon coming in to the first superstar deal. A lot of editors and others of influence seemed to resent anyone who knew their true worth to the publisher and demanded it.
Go figure.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 25, 2023 21:43:16 GMT -5
The owners of DC and Marvel were not particularly nice or honest people.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Sept 26, 2023 15:11:43 GMT -5
I don't know about "best" comic Kirby ever did but I really enjoyed the recent reprinting of one of his early stories, "Starr Warriors: The Adventures of Adam Starr"
It's simplistic but really fun in a pulp sci-fi way. This material is also available in electronic form at the Digital Comic Museum (and, I assume, Comic Book+ as well); just look for Crash Comics in the Holyoke Publishing section. Some of the scans are not very good, but it's a good way to sample that material. Anyway, as I understand it, the Image book collects the stories in the first three issues of that series, but according to the creator credit notes at Digital Comic Museum, as well as the GCD, the stories in the fourth and fifth issues were scripted, but not drawn, by Kirby as well. I'll have to check those out, the Image comic says it was remastered and although I loved it I couldn't help but wonder what the originals looked like.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 26, 2023 15:48:43 GMT -5
You can read it online at ComicBookPlus. Crash Comics, Solar Legion stories.
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