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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 17, 2023 13:15:16 GMT -5
This video dropped on Youtube a couple of days ago.
While I can honestly say that I've never been a Liefeld fan, after watching this I have to agree with Icctrombone in terms of having respect for Liefeld's business sense, even as a "kid" in the industry. For example, I didn't even know about his family situation (health of parents) as being a force behind his desire to succeed. It puts a different spin on things, because if I had been placed in that position to provide income and care for my parents at an early age I probably would have done "anything" to succeed as well.
Agree or disagree (I'm still not a Liefeld fan), I do look at it in retrospect with a little more understanding.
I didn't watch the doc and didn't know about Liefeld's parents, but his business sense was quite apparent in interviews I read in the mid '90s. For example, after the launch of his Awesome line (Or was it Extreme? Or Totally Rad? One of those...) he explained that he planned his stories in three acts that would be easily compatible with a film or TV adaptation. Maybe that doesn't make actual sense as any comic being adapted would anyway be re-written at length, but at least he was aware of how his work could be diversified into other fields and was vocal about it. At the time I thought that he was pretty optimistic thinking that what I saw as mediocre comics could ever interest Hollywood, but history proved him right and me wrong. Getting Alan Moore to write Supreme was also a very smart move; letting the man do what he wanted even more so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2023 14:01:35 GMT -5
I have nothing against Liefeld personally.
Just his artwork.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jul 17, 2023 15:36:06 GMT -5
"The greatest trick Liefeld ever pulled.. was convincing the world he couldn't draw..."
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Post by tarkintino on Jul 17, 2023 18:29:06 GMT -5
I have nothing against Liefeld personally.
Just his artwork.
That is awful in so many ways.
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Post by badwolf on Jul 17, 2023 18:42:34 GMT -5
And yet, actually one of his better works.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 17, 2023 19:05:38 GMT -5
"The greatest trick Liefeld ever pulled.. was convincing the world he couldn't draw..."
You can't control those GIFs , can you...
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Post by majestic on Jul 17, 2023 19:07:39 GMT -5
I have nothing against Liefeld personally.
Just his artwork.
What If Wonder Woman got Plastic Man's powers?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 17, 2023 19:09:52 GMT -5
How about this?
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 17, 2023 20:41:03 GMT -5
Is there any bald headed obese Juvenile fictional characters, with a realistic non-fantasy appearance, in comics or animations, if yes like what? Charlie Brown? Calliou? (I've always thought they might be related...) not really obese though. I'm sure there must be in some anime somewhere...
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Post by codystarbuck on Jul 17, 2023 21:06:36 GMT -5
How about this? I hope she knows a good chiropractor.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 18, 2023 13:04:46 GMT -5
Look, Ma, no hands! (Or feet.)
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Post by james on Jul 25, 2023 13:36:46 GMT -5
[/quote]I've got nothing at all against Liefield as a person. I've not heard anything to really make me avoid his work on that level. It's just that looking at his art is almost physically painful. [/quote] The more I look at this drawing of Cap The more I wonder what were the Editors thinking to ever let this see print?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 25, 2023 13:43:18 GMT -5
I've got nothing at all against Liefield as a person. I've not heard anything to really make me avoid his work on that level. It's just that looking at his art is almost physically painful. [/quote] The more I look at this drawing of Cap The more I wonder what were the Editors thinking to ever let this see print?[/quote] This actual drawing was never in any comic book. It was a drawing he did and it was plastered everywhere. Maybe it was a publicity stunt ?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 25, 2023 13:50:23 GMT -5
Look, Ma, no hands! (Or feet.) You're looking at the feet ?
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Post by Prince Hal on Jul 25, 2023 14:33:05 GMT -5
Looking for the feet...
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