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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 9, 2023 5:45:59 GMT -5
These feet look good to me. Unlike many artists, his art is getting better with time. This book has sold out and is going to a second printing, so he's still commercially viable. Give credit where credit is due...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 7:56:13 GMT -5
I endorse your post, my friend. Indeed, give credit where credit is due.
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Post by kirby101 on Jun 9, 2023 8:54:47 GMT -5
They are both the left foot, the arch curve is on the inside of the foot, his anatomy is still wrong. Good and commercially viable are not the same thing. But this is not a bad cover outside the 2 left feet. And what artists are you referring to that were not as good in their 50s?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 9, 2023 9:13:25 GMT -5
Wow kirby, I thought you better than ribbing people because they can't dance.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 9, 2023 9:22:34 GMT -5
99 out of 100 can’t tell if it is the same left foot. Unless you’re looking for it …
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Post by MDG on Jun 9, 2023 9:44:23 GMT -5
Can we talk about "no pecs and four sets of abdominals"?
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Post by kirby101 on Jun 9, 2023 11:09:43 GMT -5
Can we talk about "no pecs and four sets of abdominals"? The pecs are there, just flat, but there is no rib cage under the pecs. The abs start right underneath. It's first year art school anatomy.
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Post by kirby101 on Jun 9, 2023 11:11:02 GMT -5
99 out of 100 can’t tell if it is the same left foot. Unless you’re looking for it … Doesn't stop it from being wrong. Once pointed out, it's obvious.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 9, 2023 11:24:25 GMT -5
Can we talk about "no pecs and four sets of abdominals"? The pecs are there, just flat, but there is no rib cage under the pecs. The abs start right underneath. It's first year art school anatomy. I challenge you to show some artists that include all those dimensions in the last 40 years. Even Kirby cheated on those features.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 9, 2023 11:29:25 GMT -5
They are both the left foot, the arch curve is on the inside of the foot, his anatomy is still wrong. Good and commercially viable are not the same thing. But this is not a bad cover outside the 2 left feet. And what artists are you referring to that were not as good in their 50s?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 11:32:35 GMT -5
Roberto de la Torre Dan Panosian Pat Zircher even as abstract as he is, Mignola gets all those elements in no need for the last 40 years, these are comics that came outlast month or are coming out next month. -M
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 11:38:58 GMT -5
Some more, this time non-Conan... Esad Ribic Joe Jusko Tomas Giorello there's plenty more too... -M
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 11:43:06 GMT -5
And Liefeld likes to claim he was responsible for one of the best selling comics of all time. Sure. Ok. But what was the drop off from #1 to #2? From #2 to #3? Because he also need sto own that he was responsible for one of the biggest issue to issue drops in sales on a comic of all time. It's almost like hype and marketing brought a lot of people to the table but once they sampled the shit sandwich being served by Liefeld they left in droves.
-M
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2023 11:54:27 GMT -5
Not to mention that with photoshop, illustrator, etc. out there its much easier now to have a reference layer to draw over to get the basic shape of a foot correct (or to go in in post and fix it if it looks wrong), but it's easy for someone who isn't good at doing feet to not think of getting two different references for left and right...
So if he getting better or does he have better tech available to use to try to fix his flaws than he did in the 90s?
-M
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Post by tonebone on Jun 9, 2023 12:17:24 GMT -5
Honestly, with all due respect, @kirby101, I think those feet are stylized to the point that you can't really identify the curve of an arch. The ribcage is debatable, but overall, I feel like this image is pretty solid. Is it helped by good coloring? Indeed. But the drawing itself is pretty solid.
If you hate an artist's style, or even the artist itself, it can really amplify the weaknesses.
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