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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2023 20:01:00 GMT -5
Incidentally, Deadpool "photo bombs" just one Black Widow variant, a 1:25 cover for #11 in the 2014 series, and this is now one of the more valuable BW books....this can get around $250ish just because of this freak.
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Post by majestic on Jun 15, 2023 20:27:53 GMT -5
My thoughts on the early Image guys: Jim Lee is probably my favorite. Yes his art was more poses than storytelling but I feel he has improved with time. Marc Silvestri same but I have not seen any recent work to know if he has improved. Todd McFarlane has some interesting stylistic cartoon art that you either love or hate. Rob Liefeld is similar but his style "feels" lazy. He draws the minimal amount. Erik Larsen was probably the best storyteller with action packed art. Valentino I can't comment on since I never read any of his stuff. Whilce Portacio had a strange style. Sort of a mix between Lee and McFarlane IMO.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 16, 2023 20:20:18 GMT -5
My thoughts on the early Image guys: Jim Lee is probably my favorite. Yes his art was more poses than storytelling but I feel he has improved with time. Marc Silvestri same but I have not seen any recent work to know if he has improved. Todd McFarlane has some interesting stylistic cartoon art that you either love or hate. Rob Liefeld is similar but his style "feels" lazy. He draws the minimal amount. Erik Larsen was probably the best storyteller with action packed art. Valentino I can't comment on since I never read any of his stuff. Whilce Portacio had a strange style. Sort of a mix between Lee and McFarlane IMO. Valentino in the indie world was great; Valentino on superheroes was pretty run-of-the-mill. normalman was better than anything he did at Marvel and Shadow Hawk. I only saw one issue of Touch of Silver, but it was very good. McFarlane I think is a better graphic designer than an illustrator or storyteller.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 17, 2023 9:27:44 GMT -5
There was a video going around of a firearms instructor, at a range, who accidentally shoots himself, when holstering his weapon. This one? (Age-restricted because the guy says a BAD WORD!)
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 17, 2023 17:37:11 GMT -5
There was a video going around of a firearms instructor, at a range, who accidentally shoots himself, when holstering his weapon. This one? (Age-restricted because the guy says a BAD WORD!) Bad language and bad firearm safety go hand in hand.
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Post by spoon on Jun 17, 2023 22:57:39 GMT -5
Because of the positive feedback, I'm considering doing a Liefeld review thread. I just have to decide which one series... Having recently re-read (or in for some issues re-read) his New Mutants run, I'd be interested in seek someone else's take on that. And in the spirit of thread drift, I think this is the place to say that I love the voice-over in A-Team opening credits. It's poetry.
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Post by velma on Jun 18, 2023 18:22:38 GMT -5
Is there any bald headed obese Juvenile fictional characters, with a realistic non-fantasy appearance, in comics or animations, if yes like what?
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 18, 2023 19:16:17 GMT -5
Is there any bald headed obese Juvenile fictional characters, with a realistic non-fantasy appearance, in comics or animations, if yes like what? Well, that's a combination you don't often get , in comics or other things. Tubby, in Little Lulu was overweight, but had a full head of hair and usually wore a sailor's cap (what we called a "dixie cup," in the US Navy). He was drawn in a cartoon style, but in realistic proportions and with a realistic personality, in the writing. The comic strip Henry, featured a bald kid, who never spoke (the strip was entirely in pantomime) but he had a fairly average build. Even Charlie Brown, in Peanuts, isn't exactly bald nor is he chubby, compared tot he other characters. Snoopy refers to his as the 'round-headed kid," in his thoughts, but that is about it. Most juvenile comics and animation tended to present stylized designs for characters and the world. Since you didn't see many bald kids, you tended not to have bald kid characters, though you did get some with crew cuts. You had plenty of chubby kids, as you did see that in childhood and they usually had nicknames like Tubby, Chubs, Fatty and the like. It sounds pretty cruel and it often was; but, not always; or, at least, not deliberately. Kids often say things because they have no inhibitions, not to be cruel. Its the adults who say things with cruel intent. Timely Comics (1940s Marvel), had the character Tubby, in The Young Allies. For a juvenile feature, he was drawn relatively realistically, but had a shock of blond hair and wore a beanie. he came off far better than the racial stereotype of Whitewash Jones, who like most African-American characters in comics of the 30s and 40s (and for far too long after), was drawn in rather racist fashion, with big lips, stereotyped personality (based on radio and film characters, like Amos & Andy, Stymie & Buckwheat (of The Little Rascals), Birmingham Brown (in the Charlie Chan series, which also featured a yellow face European actor, as the Chinese-American detective) and others of the period. In animation, I tend to recall more tubby animal characters than children, as you got more animal characters in cartoons, in my day (back when The Flintstones was a contemporary comedy, not one of ancient history). Tennessee Tuxedo's pal, Chumley, was a slow-talking walrus. In animation, the first thing that leaps to my mind is Uter, on The Simpsons, or Little Louie Anderson, on Life With Louie. Both had hair, though.
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Post by jason on Jun 18, 2023 22:50:57 GMT -5
Bobby Hill from King of the Hill isnt that obese, but he's hardly svelte either.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 19, 2023 23:43:04 GMT -5
Is there any bald headed obese Juvenile fictional characters, with a realistic non-fantasy appearance, in comics or animations, if yes like what? To clarify, are you asking about bald obese juvenile characters in fiction, or bald obese characters in juvenile fiction?
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Post by Icctrombone on Jun 20, 2023 9:51:55 GMT -5
I remember way back ,when this thread was about the Deadpool comic by Liefeld...
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Post by Prince Hal on Jun 20, 2023 10:14:21 GMT -5
I remember way back ,when this thread was about the Deadpool comic by Liefeld... Someone should start a new one, but it takes a while to type out Bald Obese Juvenile Fictional Characters with a Realistic Non-Fantasy Appearance in Comics or Animation. Just ask me.
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Post by Rob Allen on Jun 20, 2023 13:13:11 GMT -5
Velma is new here and probably thought a thread called "Any questions" was for any questions at all. Maybe that part of the conversation could be moved to the "Ask a quick question..." thread.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jul 17, 2023 8:00:17 GMT -5
This video dropped on Youtube a couple of days ago.
While I can honestly say that I've never been a Liefeld fan, after watching this I have to agree with Icctrombone in terms of having respect for Liefeld's business sense, even as a "kid" in the industry. For example, I didn't even know about his family situation (health of parents) as being a force behind his desire to succeed. It puts a different spin on things, because if I had been placed in that position to provide income and care for my parents at an early age I probably would have done "anything" to succeed as well.
Agree or disagree (I'm still not a Liefeld fan), I do look at it in retrospect with a little more understanding.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jul 17, 2023 12:53:27 GMT -5
This video dropped on Youtube a couple of days ago.
While I can honestly say that I've never been a Liefeld fan, after watching this I have to agree with Icctrombone in terms of having respect for Liefeld's business sense, even as a "kid" in the industry. For example, I didn't even know about his family situation (health of parents) as being a force behind his desire to succeed. It puts a different spin on things, because if I had been placed in that position to provide income and care for my parents at an early age I probably would have done "anything" to succeed as well.
Agree or disagree (I'm still not a Liefeld fan), I do look at it in retrospect with a little more understanding.
I've got nothing at all against Liefield as a person. I've not heard anything to really make me avoid his work on that level. It's just that looking at his art is almost physically painful.
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