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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 13, 2023 13:20:00 GMT -5
At least the A-Team was realistic with firearms and shooting, right, tartanphantom ?
The most accurate and realistic firearms discipline I have ever seen in a TV show or Film is this series.
The creator/lead actor in the show served in the IDF and Duvdevan for many years prior to becoming an actor.
Oh, and as to your reference, "I love it when a plan comes together."
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2023 10:24:23 GMT -5
At least the A-Team was realistic with firearms and shooting, right, tartanphantom ?
The most accurate and realistic firearms discipline I have ever seen in a TV show or Film is this series.
The creator/lead actor in the show served in the IDF and Duvdevan for many years prior to becoming an actor.
Oh, and as to your reference, "I love it when a plan comes together."
Yeah, but how does a Mini-14, with a 30 rd magazine, fire 400 rounds, without reloading, and never hit anything?
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jun 14, 2023 10:45:48 GMT -5
The most accurate and realistic firearms discipline I have ever seen in a TV show or Film is this series. The creator/lead actor in the show served in the IDF and Duvdevan for many years prior to becoming an actor. Oh, and as to your reference, "I love it when a plan comes together."
Yeah, but how does a Mini-14, with a 30 rd magazine, fire 400 rounds, without reloading, and never hit anything? It's kind of off topic, but I remember my son telling me about a youtuber that was a gun specialist (I don't remember if he served or it was just a hobby/aficionado) that would compare guns in video games to their real counterparts. Many guns in shooters are "real" but the upgrades you do within the game stretch them to the point of fiction. But I remember the one he was most impressed with was the "Red 9" in Resident Evil 4, which is a Mauser C96 that had been altered from it's original caliber to a 9mm hence, "Red 9" because of the 9mm and redwood stock that you could attach to it. He said it was one of the most realistic fictional representations of a gun. So I guess once and a while fiction gets it right.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 14, 2023 10:49:44 GMT -5
The most accurate and realistic firearms discipline I have ever seen in a TV show or Film is this series.
The creator/lead actor in the show served in the IDF and Duvdevan for many years prior to becoming an actor.
Oh, and as to your reference, "I love it when a plan comes together."
Yeah, but how does a Mini-14, with a 30 rd magazine, fire 400 rounds, without reloading, and never hit anything?
"I pity the fool that can't temporarily suspend disbelief in a one-hour TV show" --Mr. T.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 10:52:30 GMT -5
I want to know where the A-Team lived because I don’t recall ever seeing their house…
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2023 11:30:42 GMT -5
I want to know where the A-Team lived because I don’t recall ever seeing their house… Slept in the van.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 14, 2023 11:33:33 GMT -5
I want to know where the A-Team lived because I don’t recall ever seeing their house… Slept in the van. Down by the river.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2023 11:38:37 GMT -5
Yeah, but how does a Mini-14, with a 30 rd magazine, fire 400 rounds, without reloading, and never hit anything?
"I pity the fool that can't temporarily suspend disbelief in a one-hour TV show" --Mr. T.
I had suspended as much belief as I could to accept the fact that these chuckleheads had ever served in Special Forces and never fired from the shoulder. I had a problem with Magnum PI that an ex-Navy SEAL was getting his butt kicked all of the time; but, Selleck carried it off better and the writing was better. Give me a Donald Bellisario tv show over a Stephen J Cannell any day. I can buy Airwolf; I can't buy Mr T. The one exception is Baa Baa Black Sheep, but, as fictional and Hollywood as it was, Robert Conrad made it work. Plus, Corsairs!
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Post by MDG on Jun 14, 2023 11:39:01 GMT -5
I want to know where the A-Team lived because I don’t recall ever seeing their house… They had an A-frame
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2023 11:44:02 GMT -5
I want to know where the A-Team lived because I don’t recall ever seeing their house… They had an A-frame Down by the river.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jun 14, 2023 11:51:25 GMT -5
"I pity the fool that can't temporarily suspend disbelief in a one-hour TV show" --Mr. T.
I had suspended as much belief as I could to accept the fact that these chuckleheads had ever served in Special Forces and never fired from the shoulder. I had a problem with Magnum PI that an ex-Navy SEAL was getting his butt kicked all of the time; but, Selleck carried it off better and the writing was better. Give me a Donald Bellisario tv show over a Stephen J Cannell any day. I can buy Airwolf; I can't buy Mr T. The one exception is Baa Baa Black Sheep, but, as fictional and Hollywood as it was, Robert Conrad made it work. Plus, Corsairs! Greg Boyington (a fellow Idahoan) referred to it as "hogwash and Hollywood hokum." But damn I loved that show as a kid.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2023 12:01:39 GMT -5
I had suspended as much belief as I could to accept the fact that these chuckleheads had ever served in Special Forces and never fired from the shoulder. I had a problem with Magnum PI that an ex-Navy SEAL was getting his butt kicked all of the time; but, Selleck carried it off better and the writing was better. Give me a Donald Bellisario tv show over a Stephen J Cannell any day. I can buy Airwolf; I can't buy Mr T. The one exception is Baa Baa Black Sheep, but, as fictional and Hollywood as it was, Robert Conrad made it work. Plus, Corsairs! Greg Boyington (a fellow Idahoan) referred to it as "hogwash and Hollywood hokum." But damn I loved that show as a kid. He took the money to appear in it though. The ironic thing was that members of VMF-214 said the same thing (more or less) about his memoir (which is a great read, no matter what). Screwballs and misfits sounds better than unassigned pilots from a replacement pool.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 14, 2023 12:16:56 GMT -5
I had suspended as much belief as I could to accept the fact that these chuckleheads had ever served in Special Forces and never fired from the shoulder. I had a problem with Magnum PI that an ex-Navy SEAL was getting his butt kicked all of the time; but, Selleck carried it off better and the writing was better. Give me a Donald Bellisario tv show over a Stephen J Cannell any day. I can buy Airwolf; I can't buy Mr T. The one exception is Baa Baa Black Sheep, but, as fictional and Hollywood as it was, Robert Conrad made it work. Plus, Corsairs! Greg Boyington (a fellow Idahoan) referred to it as "hogwash and Hollywood hokum." But damn I loved that show as a kid.
As bad as they were, I particularly remember the episode with Peter Frampton...
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Post by Confessor on Jun 14, 2023 12:32:37 GMT -5
I don't really mind the feet or the extra abs, but the total lack of trigger discipline really grinds my gears.
It bugs me not only in comics, but also in TV and film.
It really bugs me in TV and film.
Holding a firearm nonchalantly with your booger hook on the bang switch is how accidents happen in real life. A lot. I've seen plenty of "experienced" or "qualified" shooters have a negligent discharge (some with injury) because of careless behavior like this.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 14, 2023 14:01:07 GMT -5
There was a video going around of a firearms instructor, at a range, who accidentally shoots himself, when holstering his weapon. When I was in the Navy, we used to receive a regular (weekly or monthly) summary of accidents and safety issues, from across the service, with humorous commentary to get people to actually read it and retrain people in safety. An all to common feature read something like, "While standing guard watch at the gate, the petty officer of the watch shot himself in the leg, while practicing his John Wayne fast-draw." The saddest part is that they were doing something like that with a flap holster and, in most cases, a weapon that should not have a magazine inserted. Generally, in port (1980s-90), outside of secure facilities, the petty officer of the watch carried an unloaded side arm. They had two loaded magazines, and, if necessary, could slap one in quickly and chamber a round. Obviously, that was in low threat conditions. When the shooting started in the Gulf War, we went from rent-a-cop civilian gate guards to military personnel, fully armed and in flak jackets, with zig zag barriers at the gate. The best summary of mishaps I ever involved something like this..... That is a wall-mounted sound-powered phone handset. There were also standard phones located in offices, the quarterdeck, the bridge, sick bay, and the wardroom (among others). For safety, they were usually mounted to the bulkhead, with the handset latched onto a spindle. The underside of the handset had a latching ring that clamped around the notched spindle, holding it there until you pressed a release button, which released the ring clamp, allowing you to lift off the handset. The incident went like this, "While in the wardroom, for a meeting, the XO and CHENG (Chief Engineer...like Mr Scott) raced to answer a ringing phone. The XO grabbed the handset, pulling it back from the wall, away from the CHENG's outstretched hand, thereby knocking out the CHENG, when the phone collided with his head." Lessons Learned: "When racing the XO for the phone, always wear a cranial!"
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