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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 16:11:03 GMT -5
Anyone else looking forward to this? I have not read up a single thing on it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 16:19:08 GMT -5
Nope. Not a lick. I rarely enjoy anything Azzarello is involved with, so that was a non-starter, plus it feels more like an attempt to cash in on the Dark Knight brand than anything like a story any of the creators involved were passionate about and wanted to tell. It all feels like a "how can we get a spike in market share attempt to hopefully right our sinking ship" project than a "we have this amazing story to tell and want to get it out there" project and nothing about it makes me want to take my hard earned money from my wallet and give it to DC, especially at the cover prices they are putting it out at.
The Kubert involvement is the only thing I might be interested in, but neither son's work excites me the way their dad's did, so if I check this out at some point it would be for free from the library and even then, I'd have had to run out of other interesting things to read that I think I might possibly enjoy.
-M
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Nov 10, 2015 16:43:11 GMT -5
1 was great. 2 was terrible. But with a co-writer Miller's excesses have a better chance of being kept in check. So it could go either way. I'll wait to see the reviews, but it is on my radar.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 10, 2015 16:49:35 GMT -5
The concept appeals to me, so I'll sure be getting it.
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Post by Action Ace on Nov 10, 2015 19:03:33 GMT -5
Dark Knight Strikes Again is the worst comic book story I've ever read. I have no interest in the third installment.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Nov 10, 2015 19:13:57 GMT -5
Nope. Not a lick. I rarely enjoy anything Azzarello is involved with, so that was a non-starter, plus it feels more like an attempt to cash in on the Dark Knight brand than anything like a story any of the creators involved were passionate about and wanted to tell. All of Miller's recent projects have been very much their own thing, and I can't imagine that commercial concerns were foremost in his mind. Hell, I think that All Star Batman and Robin was flat-out trolling some of the more uptight sections of fandom - and I can't imagine he's hurting for money or would waste time on a project that he didn't want to do. The first two in the series are some of my favorite superhero comics ever, and I like the attached mini-comic thing. If I hadn't just read Holy Terror I would be really excited. As it is I'm still cautiously interested.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 20:01:13 GMT -5
Nope. Not a lick. I rarely enjoy anything Azzarello is involved with, so that was a non-starter, plus it feels more like an attempt to cash in on the Dark Knight brand than anything like a story any of the creators involved were passionate about and wanted to tell. All of Miller's recent projects have been very much their own thing, and I can't imagine that commercial concerns were foremost in his mind. Hell, I think that All Star Batman and Robin was flat-out trolling some of the more uptight sections of fandom - and I can't imagine he's hurting for money or would waste time on a project that he didn't want to do. The first two in the series are some of my favorite superhero comics ever, and I like the attached mini-comic thing. If I hadn't just read Holy Terror I would be really excited. As it is I'm still cautiously interested. Except Miller is only doing it as the concept semi-co-plotter, Azzarello and Kubert are doing all the heavy lifting, it's more like DC going hey Frank you got something Dark Knight left we can exploit all you need to do is scratch some ideas down and we'll pay you and handle the rest...kind of like most Stan Lee projects these days where the name recognition is being cashed in on but he has little to do with it creatively beyond wouldn't it be a cool idea if we did...and then its handed off to someone els eto do and his name is slapped on it to get people to pony up the money. -M
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 10, 2015 21:46:38 GMT -5
Except Miller is only doing it as the concept semi-co-plotter, Azzarello and Kubert are doing all the heavy lifting, it's more like DC going hey Frank you got something Dark Knight left we can exploit all you need to do is scratch some ideas down and we'll pay you and handle the rest...kind of like most Stan Lee projects these days where the name recognition is being cashed in on but he has little to do with it creatively beyond wouldn't it be a cool idea if we did...and then its handed off to someone els eto do and his name is slapped on it to get people to pony up the money. -M Frank Miller gave an ITW for Le Monde, the leading french newspaper, right at the heals of the parisian comic con. In this ITW, he claimed the project was his, that he stands by it 100%, that this might be some of his best work ever, and that he just needed a little help to produce it. I don't know how much of this is true or not, but those were his words.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2015 21:50:18 GMT -5
Except Miller is only doing it as the concept semi-co-plotter, Azzarello and Kubert are doing all the heavy lifting, it's more like DC going hey Frank you got something Dark Knight left we can exploit all you need to do is scratch some ideas down and we'll pay you and handle the rest...kind of like most Stan Lee projects these days where the name recognition is being cashed in on but he has little to do with it creatively beyond wouldn't it be a cool idea if we did...and then its handed off to someone els eto do and his name is slapped on it to get people to pony up the money. -M Frank Miller gave an ITW for Le Monde, the leading french newspaper, right at the heals of the parisian comic con. In this ITW, he claimed the project was his, that he stands by it 100%, that this might be some of his best work ever, and that he just needed a little help to produce it. I don't know how much of this is true or not, but those were his words. Just about what Stan says about every project his name is on. So to me it's just spin and hype. -M
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Post by berkley on Nov 10, 2015 21:50:49 GMT -5
I still haven't read any of the Dark Knight sequels - how many have there been, now? - but might look at them for the artwork sometime. If Miller isn't drawing this one I probably won't bother. I haven't heard anything about the story.
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Nov 11, 2015 6:06:34 GMT -5
The story apparenty is about the bottled city getting its kryptonian inhabitants suddenly released on earth, and behaving like self righteous assholes.
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Post by batlaw on Nov 11, 2015 7:31:11 GMT -5
The story apparenty is about the bottled city getting its kryptonian inhabitants suddenly released on earth, and behaving like self righteous assholes. So the plot of this one I assume has superman calling in batman to use his superior detective skills to locate these kryptonians because they'll be indistinguishable from everyone?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 7:44:45 GMT -5
Dark Knight Strikes Again is the worst comic book story I've ever read. I have no interest in the third installment. I don't know that I'd go quite that far, but it definitely was spectacularly terrible. I'll probably read this, but I'm not remotely fired up for it.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 11, 2015 13:14:50 GMT -5
Frank Miller gave an ITW for Le Monde, the leading french newspaper, right at the heals of the parisian comic con. In this ITW, he claimed the project was his, that he stands by it 100%, that this might be some of his best work ever, and that he just needed a little help to produce it. I don't know how much of this is true or not, but those were his words. Just about what Stan says about every project his name is on. So to me it's just spin and hype. -M Except Frank Miller is a very different guy than Stan Lee, I mean for all the love I have for Stan he's always been more circus barker than writer so yes, absolutely take what he says with a shaker of salt. But Frank has never been that kind of a guy, he's always been passionate about his level of control so if he says it's his baby and he's proud of it I see no reason to doubt him. Now, that doesn't mean I'll like the story as I didn't care for his last outing(which I waited until my library had in order to read it) but I see no reason to doubt his word.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 13:45:59 GMT -5
Just about what Stan says about every project his name is on. So to me it's just spin and hype. -M Except Frank Miller is a very different guy than Stan Lee, I mean for all the love I have for Stan he's always been more circus barker than writer so yes, absolutely take what he says with a shaker of salt. But Frank has never been that kind of a guy, he's always been passionate about his level of control so if he says it's his baby and he's proud of it I see no reason to doubt him. Now, that doesn't mean I'll like the story as I didn't care for his last outing(which I waited until my library had in order to read it) but I see no reason to doubt his word. Yes but according to Frank, everything he does is the greatest thing ever. When he wrote Robocop II and III these were the stories he always wanted to tell and they were head and shoulders above anything he had done in comics because he finally had the freedom to do things his way...and the Hollywood shill speak flew from his mouth in buckets (and for me that has been part of the Miller mystique from the start-his belief he is superior and infallible in what he does)-don't get me wrong, I like lot of what Miller has done throughout his belief and passion what he does is his best work ever each and every time and his faux-sincere shilling of it was tired for me back int he 80s and while he may be a different guy than Stan, those self-congratulatory words are just as empty. -M
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