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Post by berkley on Dec 9, 2014 16:17:20 GMT -5
I kind of remember that too - a feeling of relief that you could pick and choose styles from wherever you liked. Not that I was ever very adventurous in how I dressed, but it was nice to see some variety.
When I think of bad 90s styles they tend to be holdovers from the 80s or sub-group trends like letting your pants hand down over your arse - which you still see today sometimes, so perhaps not strictly a 90s thing?
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Post by Confessor on Dec 9, 2014 17:15:15 GMT -5
One thing I liked about the 90s was that suddenly, if you wanted to wear bell bottoms again, you could. If you wanted to wear a hat and tie and a 40s buzz cut, you could. We raided thrift stores and vintage fashion stores and the only thing you could definitely NOT wear were the 80s neon leg warmers. Agreed. ...and that has kinda carried on into the 21st century and, if anything, become even more the case. It seems that in today's youth culture (and society in general, actually) it's acceptable to take fashion influences from pretty much any era and either mash them together or else stick to one and re-create that look exactly. I hang out with a lot of young people at the open mic/jam nights I run and I see a full spectrum of 20th century looks on an average night, along with a lot of whatever's fashionable this season, obviously. I think that's a great thing, personally, because I remember the social stigma of looking in any way vaguely '70s or (God forbid) '60s back in the 1980s. Young people and society in general seem much more tolerant of people's individual fashion choices these days, I think. |
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Post by Paradox on Dec 9, 2014 23:26:17 GMT -5
It's more acceptable the farther you get from the originating era (tends to run in cycles of about twenty-twenty five years, more or less). '60s hippie gear resurfaced with "grunge" in the '90s. Disco styles resurfaced in the late '90s, but thank god those were so hideous, only the idea of "hip huggers" (now called "low-rise jeans") survived. I see a LOT of the '80s in today's "mix and match" styles, especially in the area of mixed colors and patterns. Everything old is new again.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2014 23:36:16 GMT -5
I was seeing a resurgence in 60s styles in the mid-80s especially in white New England suburbia where a lot of high school kids were embracing the Beatles, Hendrix, The Doors and the Dead, and sporting tie die and beads, along with the motto everything cool in the world died in the 70s, long before grunge hit. I went to a Catholic high school where we wore jacket and tie every day, but I remember walking in sea of tie die on dress down days my junior and senior years ('85-87), and at our senior picnic fully half the class wore tie die Dead or Hendrix t-shirts (I was not among them).
I do think there is a nostalgia wave that hits about 15-20 years after things pass, so 60s stuff was popular mid to late 80s, early 90s is when radio programming 70s stations came into vogue and 70s nostalgia hit around the same time grunge was becoming the byword on MTV for youth culture, and bell bottoms came back into fashion, but bigger and more exaggerated, etc. etc.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 10, 2014 7:18:31 GMT -5
I was seeing a resurgence in 60s styles in the mid-80s especially in white New England suburbia where a lot of high school kids were embracing the Beatles, Hendrix, The Doors and the Dead, and sporting tie die and beads, along with the motto everything cool in the world died in the 70s, long before grunge hit. I think this was also true in Britain in the late 1980s in the realms of underground indie music (I'm thinking of the likes of the then largely unknown Primal Scream and The Stone Roses wearing very '60s influenced clobber), but for anyone else living in mainstream Britain in...say, 1986, Miami Vice and Dynasty were the places to take your fashion cues from. There was also the Paisley Underground movement in LA in the early to mid-'80s that harked back to the late '60s, but again, as far as mainstream society was concerned, most folks wouldn't be seen dead in anything that looked even vaguely '60s. It's also worth mentioning the whole acid house rave scene that sprang up in Britain in the late 1980s. That undoubtedly set the stage for a more '60s influenced fashion vibe in the early '90s among young people, without any doubt. I do think there is a nostalgia wave that hits about 15-20 years after things pass, so 60s stuff was popular mid to late 80s, early 90s is when radio programming 70s stations came into vogue and 70s nostalgia hit around the same time grunge was becoming the byword on MTV for youth culture, and bell bottoms came back into fashion, but bigger and more exaggerated, etc. etc. No, sorry, you're a few years off here. The '60s fashion influence only began to enjoy a real mainstream resurgence in the early '90s, with musical trends like Madchester, grunge and the trashy, day-glo, hippie pop of bands like Deee-lite and PM Dawn making bell-bottoms, tie-dye tops and love beads hip again. The '70s influence only really began to permeate mainstream high-street fashion in the late '90s and the '80s vibe starting to really catch on in the mid-2000s. Interestingly, these '60s, '70s and '80s sartorial influences in semi-modern fashion trends have never really gone away and are still very much in evidence, which is kinda what I was saying in my earlier post about an increased tolerance of different eras, within the context of so-called "modern fashion". Earlier decades seemed much less tolerant of varying types of youth fashion IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 9:05:13 GMT -5
Where I was living, there was a proliferation of radio stations going to entirely 70's music programming (and self-identifying as "the 70's station") as early as 1993 and they were chasing a nostalgia trend not setting it, so think the 70s nostalgia may have hit here a little sooner than you are recalling. It may not have impacted fashion for a few years yet, but he nostalgia wave had definitely hit by then.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 16:42:57 GMT -5
All anybody has ever had to do since the 50s to be in style was wear a pair of jeans and a t-shirt paired with a brown or black leather jacket and boots or converse. It seems to be the longest lasting "cool" style of the modern age. Sure the cut of the jeans or jackets change, but that's about it.
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Post by badwolf on Dec 10, 2014 16:46:37 GMT -5
Always been just a t-shirt and jeans person.
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 12, 2014 10:56:53 GMT -5
People used to talk about how bad hair and clothes styles were in the 70s, but I would say the 80s has it beat hands down. No, the 90's. The 80's are forgiveable, most of the time, imo, but there is no excuse for 99% of the 90's. Ewwwwww. I don't think there was more crap in the 90's, it was just more popular for some reason. Those of us that were reading the good stuff barely noticed. |
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 12, 2014 10:59:47 GMT -5
 Thanks to the camp craze of the 60's, this is what DC turned the Blackhawks into.  |
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 12, 2014 13:30:08 GMT -5
Thanks to the camp craze of the 60's, this is what DC turned the Blackhawks into. Where's this from ? I love it ! |
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Post by dupersuper on Dec 12, 2014 13:41:36 GMT -5
JLA Year One
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 12, 2014 13:43:04 GMT -5
Haven't read it in years.
Thanks duper !
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Post by Calamas on Dec 28, 2014 22:36:24 GMT -5
Byrne was basically the harbinger of married couples can't work and happily married with kids don't belong in super-hero comics with this run too. It is certainly the example everyone points to when they want to justify breaking up all the couples in modern comics (Peter/MJ, Lois/Clark, etc.) furthering the legacy of damage that run did as well. It's the bad gift that keeps on giving. -M We, the buying public, may have to bare some responsibility too. Mark Waid tried exploring this territory with his second stint on The Flash (Vol. 2 #231-236). Not only did “Flash Family” not sell, it was actively hated. I suspect assumed expectations had a heavy hand in this. Fans wanted more of what Waid had accomplished with his original run; he want to create something new. Nonetheless, superhero married with (super) children lasted only six issues or so. I, for one, enjoyed it. I did not find Wally, Linda or the kids boring. You could argue that the initial villains, a mindless invading alien race, were. Perhaps that’s what turned people off. (Of course Waid started his Fantastic Four run the same way and that worked out considerably better.) But at no point were the heroes dull. At least to me. Clearly I was in the minority. |
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Post by Calamas on Dec 28, 2014 22:40:03 GMT -5
I certainly doubt Steve Englehart was happy that Kevin Smith turned Silver St. Cloud into a bubble-brained blond bimbo in Batman: The Widening Gyre.
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