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Post by badwolf on Dec 5, 2014 21:31:22 GMT -5
Here she is at her cutest:  |
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 6, 2014 0:10:03 GMT -5
I am glad Giffen and the Bierbaums were eventually kicked off though. Giffen's eventual plans for the book if he had stayed on would have been disastrous. Giffen left because he felt that no one really cared what they were doing with the title. He's joked in the past that he blew up Earth just to see if anyone in editorial was paying attention to the book. He wasn't kicked off the book.
Bierbaums were kicked off, but that was a year and a half later. Plus, the first dozen or so Legionnaires issues. It was a mercy killing at that point, although the few issue between them leaving and the "End of an Era" stories that lead into Zero Hero are very rough.
As controversial as the 5YG run is, the people that do like it drop the title after the moon explodes. I was still liking it after that, despite the fact it was a different team and approach. It was different and not horrible, and I hated Legion coming to an end, but the Archie Legion was pretty cool. |
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Post by Pól Rua on Dec 6, 2014 3:43:56 GMT -5
I'm a longtime Legion fan, but the end of 5YL was the end for me.
I was enjoying the 'Lost'-like tone, dispensing clues with an eyedropper as I tried to fathom what had changed in the intervening time. It had a natural flow and it was a damn shame they cut it short before we could see what they were building towards - a new reformed and redefined Legion, naturally.
Since then, the Legion have existed in a time loop.
They might as well have succumbed to the Time Trapper, because every relaunch sees YET ANOTHER reboot with YET ANOTHER slightly different retelling of the same stories.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 6, 2014 7:10:39 GMT -5
Here she is at her cutest: AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MY EYES , MY EYES ! |
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Post by Confessor on Dec 6, 2014 7:57:02 GMT -5
People used to talk about how bad hair and clothes styles were in the 70s, but I would say the 80s has it beat hands down. Yes! My God, what were there thinking? |
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 6, 2014 11:40:32 GMT -5
Since then, the Legion have existed in a time loop. They might as well have succumbed to the Time Trapper, because every relaunch sees YET ANOTHER reboot with YET ANOTHER slightly different retelling of the same stories. This has been problem with the Legion over the past twenty years. There's bright spots here and there, but everything feels so familiar despite all the reboots and resets. With its future setting and entire universe to explore, the Legion should be a book where anything can happen. Other than the first year or so of the DnA run, Legion has been the same things over and over again, touching on old stories and old concepts with a new set of paint. Even DnA succumbed to that when they felt they had to touch on "Great Darkness", which was the low point of their run. |
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Post by hondobrode on Dec 6, 2014 23:22:53 GMT -5
 Thanks to the camp craze of the 60's, this is what DC turned the Blackhawks into. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:36:45 GMT -5
Thanks to the camp craze of the 60's, this is what DC turned the Blackhawks into. They got one thing right. If you read that issue, you deserved a reward. |
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 7, 2014 6:24:40 GMT -5
The weird thing was that they kinda did the opposite with the Metal Men and the Teen Titans - by having the Metal Men pretend to be humans:  and making the TT give up their costumes and use of their powers:  I am not quite sure re: the time line - was it Wonder Woman who'd started that trend?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 17:52:26 GMT -5
Blackhawk did their big change first, with the Jan 1967 issue. Then Diana was the first to go powerless in '68, Metal Men in '69 and the Titans in '70. I liked the Hunted Metal Men and jumpsuited Titans, and that era of Wonder Woman is my favorite. But the Blackhawk change, turning a group of adventurers into super-heroes to broaden their appeal, just didn't work (largely because their super identities were so lame). Maybe that's one reason why the other series went in the other direction?
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 7, 2014 18:39:58 GMT -5
On the other hand, giving the Challengers of the Unknown superpowers and moving them over to Marvel as the Fantastic Four worked really well!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 7, 2014 18:42:54 GMT -5
That's nothing compared to this 'uniform'.. which I recall the characters all ooohhed and ahhhed about IN the story...  |
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Post by fanboystranger on Dec 7, 2014 21:20:46 GMT -5
That's nothing compared to this 'uniform'.. which I recall the characters all ooohhed and ahhhed about IN the story... See, this is the real '90s, mostly because it was five years too late. We'd see a lot of "hip" characters in flannel in '96-'97, three years after that had been dead for three years. I'm not sure if popular artists were locked in a box for years, but until Paul Pope came up, I'm not sure that artists actually looked outside their window. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2014 7:32:05 GMT -5
People used to talk about how bad hair and clothes styles were in the 70s, but I would say the 80s has it beat hands down. No, the 90's. The 80's are forgiveable, most of the time, imo, but there is no excuse for 99% of the 90's. Ewwwwww. |
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Post by badwolf on Dec 8, 2014 10:29:52 GMT -5
Where can I find one of those ear shirts??
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