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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 18, 2023 18:49:06 GMT -5
Wasn't the purpose of the "Bloodlines" event to give us readers new and exciting characters to get attached to? I think this is the only one people remember. Was it? 'Cause, the message I got, from the marketing of Bloodlines was, "Nothing to see here. Move along!" I listened to that message. I also got the message, "These are not the droids you are looking for;" but, I don't think that was meant for me.
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Post by Batflunkie on Feb 18, 2023 19:46:21 GMT -5
I thought Gunfire was kind of an interesting character from the Bloodlines event, being able to turn anything he touches into a weapon. Of course, he was famously made fun of this in Hitman 1,000,000
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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 18, 2023 20:16:18 GMT -5
I'd say Bishop 'made' it as a character, he's had a couple minis... he was a big part of the Hope Summers story (he was a villain there, but it happens) and he has a new title 'Bishop: War College' coming out. I had 100% forgotten about Silver Claw! I think she was in the first Ms. Marvel series briefly? yes, indeed... wikipedia agrees with me.
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Post by james on Feb 19, 2023 10:29:41 GMT -5
Graviton was my first favorite villain. I saw him in Avengers 158 and thought with someone with such immense power and a cool costume he is bound to be up there with Dr DOOM importance. I know it wasn’t a new character but I just reread FF. 168-170and I remembered how much I like Ben being able to shed the Thing. Literally! , and I had hoped for some Ben Grimm adventures.
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Post by jason on Feb 19, 2023 15:39:54 GMT -5
I thought Firestar was going to be a bigger character than she was. Ditto the Shroud (I remember first seeing him in West Coast Avengers #1 and thinking he had a cool look and powers).
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Post by Dizzy D on Feb 19, 2023 17:58:22 GMT -5
Firestar was weird that there was quite a big period between her appearing in the cartoon and her appearing in comics (must have been some kinda rights issue, I guess?). And then also she was created as a character in a cartoon with Spider-Man, but didn't appear in anything with him till decades later, appearing mostly in X-Men and later New Warriors.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 19, 2023 19:30:38 GMT -5
I did quite like Triathlon. Good character, and his links to the Triune Understanding were compelling. Haven’t seen him since the Busiek Avengers run. I didn't care for Triathlon, but the way his story wrapped up (in Avengers #50 I think) was epic.
I liked Silverclaw though.
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 19, 2023 19:50:00 GMT -5
Firestar was weird that there was quite a big period between her appearing in the cartoon and her appearing in comics (must have been some kinda rights issue, I guess?). And then also she was created as a character in a cartoon with Spider-Man, but didn't appear in anything with him till decades later, appearing mostly in X-Men and later New Warriors. Technically, she made her comic book debut only months after the Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends cartoon premiered in 1981, as seen in this one-shot comic tie-in adaptation from December of the same year:
Being a Human Torch knock-off who looked like a Mary Jane Watson clone in her civilian life, I'm not surprised Firestar did not immediately become a fixture in Marvel comics, as she was not exactly an original who--on sight--did not call other Marvel characters to mind.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 20, 2023 0:28:16 GMT -5
Firestar was weird that there was quite a big period between her appearing in the cartoon and her appearing in comics (must have been some kinda rights issue, I guess?). And then also she was created as a character in a cartoon with Spider-Man, but didn't appear in anything with him till decades later, appearing mostly in X-Men and later New Warriors. Technically, she made her comic book debut only months after the Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends cartoon premiered in 1981, as seen in this one-shot comic tie-in adaptation from December of the same year:
Being a Human Torch knock-off who looked like a Mary Jane Watson clone in her civilian life, I'm not surprised Firestar did not immediately become a fixture in Marvel comics,as she was not exactly an original who--on sight--did not call other Marvel characters to mind.
All of this was after my time, but I guess something must have changed in the Standards and Practices offices that allowed a fiery character to appear on a kids’ cartoon show because I seem to recall reading that was the reason there was no Human Torch on the first FF cartoons on ABC.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Feb 20, 2023 4:25:04 GMT -5
All of this was after my time, but I guess something must have changed in the Standards and Practices offices that allowed a fiery character to appear on a kids’ cartoon show because I seem to recall reading that was the reason there was no Human Torch on the first FF cartoons on ABC. The belief that Human Torch wasn't in the 1979 FF cartoon because of worries that kids would set themselves on fire is an urban myth that's been debunked numerous times. The real reason is that the Human Torch had been separately optioned for another project so he couldn't be used in the cartoon. Among other things, it was one of the earlier " Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed" at Comics Should be Good! (way back in 2005). There's also a video that provides a pretty good rundown of the entire matter (although you can pretty much skip ahead to about the one-minute mark, as there's a lengthy introduction about the mid-'00s FF movie):
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 4:36:05 GMT -5
All of this was after my time, but I guess something must have changed in the Standards and Practices offices that allowed a fiery character to appear on a kids’ cartoon show because I seem to recall reading that was the reason there was no Human Torch on the first FF cartoons on ABC. The belief that Human Torch wasn't in the 1979 FF cartoon because of worries that kids would set themselves on fire is an urban myth that's been debunked numerous times. The real reason is that the Human Torch had been separately optioned for another project so he couldn't be used in the cartoon. Among other things, it was one of the earlier " Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed" at Comics Should be Good! (way back in 2005). There's also a video that provides a pretty good rundown of the entire matter (although you can pretty much skip ahead to about the one-minute mark, as there's a lengthy introduction about the mid-'00s FF movie):
Of course, you are correct. What irks me is how many times that urban myth has been repeated in various publications. Reminds me of that myth that a duck’s quack doesn’t echo. That made its way into countless fact/trivia books, yet a duck’s quack does echo.
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Post by Prince Hal on Feb 20, 2023 6:09:44 GMT -5
All of this was after my time, but I guess something must have changed in the Standards and Practices offices that allowed a fiery character to appear on a kids’ cartoon show because I seem to recall reading that was the reason there was no Human Torch on the first FF cartoons on ABC. The belief that Human Torch wasn't in the 1979 FF cartoon because of worries that kids would set themselves on fire is an urban myth that's been debunked numerous times. The real reason is that the Human Torch had been separately optioned for another project so he couldn't be used in the cartoon. Among other things, it was one of the earlier " Comic Book Urban Legends Revealed" at Comics Should be Good! (way back in 2005). There's also a video that provides a pretty good rundown of the entire matter (although you can pretty much skip ahead to about the one-minute mark, as there's a lengthy introduction about the mid-'00s FF movie):
Well, I clearly have all my FF shows mixed up.Yet another example of the danger of alternate facts. Thank you for bursting this bubble gently and sparing me any trauma. PS:edo, I trust you enough that I probably won’t even watch the video.
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Post by zaku on Feb 20, 2023 8:28:21 GMT -5
This story of the Human Torch has always puzzled me. How is it possible that in 1977 they thought they could make a show about him? The Torch has a lot of super powers that would have been difficult and expensive to reproduce on TV at the time. He flies, throws fireballs, builds things with flames, and best of all, well, he's a human torch. Even if they had decided to give his TV counterpart only a subset of powers it would have been complicated. And the Human Torch, unlike Wonder Woman and the Hulk (probably the most famous superhero shows at the time) is ALWAYS the Human Torch while the latter two became their superhero counterparts at most a couple of minutes per episode (resulting in savings on special effects).
I would be very curious to read at least the pitch of the series...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 8:53:01 GMT -5
This story of the Human Torch has always puzzled me. How is it possible that in 1977 they thought they could make a show about him? The Torch has a lot of super powers that would have been difficult and expensive to reproduce on TV at the time. He flies, throws fireballs, builds things with flames, and best of all, well, he's a human torch. Even if they had decided to give his TV counterpart only a subset of powers it would have been complicated. And the Human Torch, unlike Wonder Woman and the Hulk (probably the most famous superhero shows at the time) is ALWAYS the Human Torch while the latter two became their superhero counterparts at most a couple of minutes per episode (resulting in savings on special effects). I would be very curious to read at least the pitch of the series... My guess is that they’d just have had him “flame on” very briefly, once or twice an episode.
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Post by Cei-U! on Feb 20, 2023 9:23:12 GMT -5
This story of the Human Torch has always puzzled me. How is it possible that in 1977 they thought they could make a show about him? The Torch has a lot of super powers that would have been difficult and expensive to reproduce on TV at the time. He flies, throws fireballs, builds things with flames, and best of all, well, he's a human torch. Even if they had decided to give his TV counterpart only a subset of powers it would have been complicated. And the Human Torch, unlike Wonder Woman and the Hulk (probably the most famous superhero shows at the time) is ALWAYS the Human Torch while the latter two became their superhero counterparts at most a couple of minutes per episode (resulting in savings on special effects). I would be very curious to read at least the pitch of the series... If memory serves, the series would've focus on professional race car driver Johnny Storm who secretly assumed the Torch identity when crime or trouble reared their ugly heads.
Cei-U! I summon the fire extinguisher!
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