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Post by Cei-U! on Apr 15, 2022 9:56:45 GMT -5
^^^^ I'm shocked to hear that about Glanzman. He was at 3 or 4 Ithacons and always personable, though I believe it was very hard for him to hear well in that environment. And even though he was older--this was in the late 80s-early 90s--I'm pretty sure he came on his motorcycle at least once. Like Kirby101 said, everybody has a bad day. Glanzman was obviously tired and hungry, and he think he was perturbed more at the fan preceding me (who had a huge stack of stuff he expected him to sign) than at me. I didn't take it personally.
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 16, 2022 20:39:14 GMT -5
Wonder, sure, but seek them out? If they had a good and healthy life with their adopted parents? That seems a little off to me.
Why can't someone have a good and healthy relationship with their adopted parents and still feel an unexplainable desire to seek out/connect with their biological parents? Byrne doesn't seem capable of thinking dialectically. Either Clark's the mask, or Superman is. Either he embraces his Kryptonian heritage at the expense of his Terran upbringing, or vice-versa. There's no middle ground between extremes. As someone's who lurked at his forum since the early 2010s, I'll make the educated guess that this mentality of his isn't confined to the drawing board.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 1:16:20 GMT -5
I had a brief exchange with Chuck Dixon on some comment board. Not one bit of it was him addressing my actual words. I pointed that out to him, and I could feel the spittle in his response coming through my monitor. I can still take his Batman work as readable action fluff, but there's always going to be the thought in the back of my mind that this dude is unhinged.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 17, 2022 11:39:49 GMT -5
I had a brief exchange with Chuck Dixon on some comment board. Not one bit of it was him addressing my actual words. I pointed that out to him, and I could feel the spittle in his response coming through my monitor. I can still take his Batman work as readable action fluff, but there's always going to be the thought in the back of my mind that this dude is unhinged. I never met him; but, the Chuck Dixon of the late 80s and pre-internet 90s sure seemed like a different guy.
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Post by chadwilliam on Apr 17, 2022 12:19:48 GMT -5
Why can't someone have a good and healthy relationship with their adopted parents and still feel an unexplainable desire to seek out/connect with their biological parents? Byrne doesn't seem capable of thinking dialectically. Either Clark's the mask, or Superman is. Either he embraces his Kryptonian heritage at the expense of his Terran upbringing, or vice-versa. There's no middle ground between extremes. As someone's who lurked at his forum since the early 2010s, I'll make the educated guess that this mentality of his isn't confined to the drawing board. That's an interesting way to put it and probably pretty accurate. Some of his more infamous comments struck me as sounding not all that unreasonable in a "let's agree to disagree" way when you read the first sentence or two, but once you reach the end of that paragraph... man. Byrne once argued that creators such as Siegel and Shuster, Jack Kirby, etc. understood the terms of the contracts they signed when they entered the business and so should be expected to stick with them to the letter. I don't agree that there shouldn't be more leeway, but I can't really argue that Byrne's attitude is unreasonable - wrong perhaps, but still reasonable as far as contrarian positions go. However when during the course of his argument he conjectures that "they [Siegel and Shuster] may have been two little dumb hicks from the midwest" he really goes off the rails leaving you to wonder just what drives his opinions. Christopher Reeve's accident was a horrible tragedy and he dealt with it courageously, but he shouldn't be called a hero for going through it? Well, Byrne's missing the point of how heroically Reeve handled himself after the incident, but I believe he does have a point about how society sometimes regards people that they sympathize with as heroes because they sympathize with them. However, the more and more his mind worked on this idea, the more and more cray-cray Byrne sounds. To go from that to "he could have been begging for death every second he was out of camera range" - really? You made your point in your first sentence, you really don't have to go there, you know.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 12:30:50 GMT -5
One of my favourite indy books over the past 10 years was Rat Queens. It had a fabulous artist....but he was arrested for assaulting his wife. He was eventually dropped from the book because of it and it was hard to look at the book after that because I now associated it with one of its creators being a wife-beater. I think he went to rehab, cleaned himself up and is back on the indy circuit....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2022 13:26:27 GMT -5
Byrne doesn't seem capable of thinking dialectically. Either Clark's the mask, or Superman is. Either he embraces his Kryptonian heritage at the expense of his Terran upbringing, or vice-versa. There's no middle ground between extremes. As someone's who lurked at his forum since the early 2010s, I'll make the educated guess that this mentality of his isn't confined to the drawing board. That's an interesting way to put it and probably pretty accurate. Some of his more infamous comments struck me as sounding not all that unreasonable in a "let's agree to disagree" way when you read the first sentence or two, but once you reach the end of that paragraph... man. Byrne once argued that creators such as Siegel and Shuster, Jack Kirby, etc. understood the terms of the contracts they signed when they entered the business and so should be expected to stick with them to the letter. I don't agree that there shouldn't be more leeway, but I can't really argue that Byrne's attitude is unreasonable - wrong perhaps, but still reasonable as far as contrarian positions go. However when during the course of his argument he conjectures that "they [Siegel and Shuster] may have been two little dumb hicks from the midwest" he really goes off the rails leaving you to wonder just what drives his opinions. Christopher Reeve's accident was a horrible tragedy and he dealt with it courageously, but he shouldn't be called a hero for going through it? Well, Byrne's missing the point of how heroically Reeve handled himself after the incident, but I believe he does have a point about how society sometimes regards people that they sympathize with as heroes because they sympathize with them. However, the more and more his mind worked on this idea, the more and more cray-cray Byrne sounds. To go from that to "he could have been begging for death every second he was out of camera range" - really? You made your point in your first sentence, you really don't have to go there, you know. I agree about how extreme Byrne can get. If Wikiquote is accurate (and I do recall it from his forum, vaguely), didn’t he once use a racial slur to bring about a debate over speech bubble vs word balloon? If you’re gonna be a pedantic grump about whether speech bubble or word balloon is the right terminology, just make the damn point for goodness’ sake! Don’t bring a racial slur into the debate. The quote is on Wikiquote, but I haven’t shared it here because of the slur.
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Post by DubipR on Apr 17, 2022 19:45:59 GMT -5
I'm in the minority that truly never cared that much for John Bryne's work. With the exception of his 12 issues of Captain America, his Fantastic Four run and his She-Hulk, I've found a majority of his work just okay. I'm glad I've never met him because he just sounds like a vile person from the stories I've heard over the decades from others and my comic friend that met him in person.
The only disappointment, and I really wouldn't say it's a disappointment; more like on point was meeting Frank Cho for the first time. Major league pr**k; just was so bitter and not friendly. This was early in his career and his own hype swallowed him up early on. The second and third time since he was nicer but still had the pr**kish side still. Just was condescending to his fans when people were trying to thank him but made them happy to get stuff signed.
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Post by chaykinstevens on Apr 18, 2022 7:44:41 GMT -5
I agree about how extreme Byrne can get. If Wikiquote is accurate (and I do recall it from his forum, vaguely), didn’t he once use a racial slur to bring about a debate over speech bubble vs word balloon? If you’re gonna be a pedantic grump about whether speech bubble or word balloon is the right terminology, just make the damn point for goodness’ sake! Don’t bring a racial slur into the debate. The quote is on Wikiquote, but I haven’t shared it here because of the slur. The quote was accurate. link
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 7:49:08 GMT -5
Why did he have to bring THAT word into a debate about speech bubbles, word balloons, etc? WHY?
He demanded nothing but perfection and respect for fictional characters. Don’t dare call Spider-Man “Spidey” or Red Tornado “Reddy”. Always say word balloon rather than speech bubble. Respect the comic terminology. But, hey, perfectly fine for him to throw out a racial slur to make a pedantic “too much time on his hands” point about speech bubbles (word balloons or speech bubbles, who cares? Both are used, both are fine).
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Post by shaxper on Apr 18, 2022 11:49:08 GMT -5
Claremont is one of the nicest creators I've ever met in person. He took a whole five minutes to chat with my then two year old about Kitty Pryde while a mile-long line of fanboys waited impatiently behind her. He also accepted no money for signatures, instead asking for donations to the Hero Initiative.
My one experience ever with Shooter was an extremely negative one. I was writing about his work on the Dark Horse reboot of Doctor Solar and essentially stated that, while I was a huge fan of Shooter and also really enjoyed the series, I was disturbed that the serial raping of the protagonist's girlfriend by a demigod was done just to humiliate the protagonist with no concern for the actual character being raped whatsoever. she just gets over it as soon as it's done while he cant let it go. I found that problematic.
Shooter jumped in and told me off in no uncertain terms. How dare I imply any kind of sexism and what did that say about ME as a trollish fanboy?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 11:58:49 GMT -5
Claremont is one of the nicest creators I've ever met in person. He took a whole five minutes to chat with my then two year old about Kitty Pryde while a mile-long line of fanboys waited impatiently behind her. He also accepted no money for signatures, instead asking for donations to the Hero Initiative. Claremont just went WAY back up in my estimation after hearing that. Taking the time for the kids is about as cool as it gets. I saw David Prowse do something similar at a signing event many years ago, that stuck with me forever.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2022 11:59:52 GMT -5
I'm in the minority that truly never cared that much for John Bryne's work. With the exception of his 12 issues of Captain America, his Fantastic Four run and his She-Hulk, I've found a majority of his work just okay. I'm glad I've never met him because he just sounds like a vile person from the stories I've heard over the decades from others and my comic friend that met him in person. I hope you avoided Spider-Man: Chapter One. Awful series.
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Post by Marv-El on Apr 18, 2022 12:19:05 GMT -5
Claremont is one of the nicest creators I've ever met in person. He took a whole five minutes to chat with my then two year old about Kitty Pryde while a mile-long line of fanboys waited impatiently behind her. He also accepted no money for signatures, instead asking for donations to the Hero Initiative. Yes, that is very good to hear for Claremont was just added to the guest list for this year's Heroes Con in Charlotte. He is one of the few creators that would make me heavily consider making the 3 hour drive on a Saturday to attend. Although I am always hesitant meeting a pro of whom I am a big fan. I don't want to come off sounding like an idiot and just babbling yet I also don't want to get into a long-winded intro of why and how I am fan of theirs. Rather, I try and keep it simple, let them know that I've been a big fan of their work and thank them for their efforts. That being said, I can't recall having any real disappointments in this regard. Kurt Busiek and Perez have been the most pleasant and entertaining pros I've met so far but really all of them I've met have been nice and engaging. The only exception would be James O'Barr. This was a few years after the release of the Brandon Lee Crow film and my girlfriend at the time had a copy of the Crow TPB which she wanted signed by him if possible. She got her signature but O'Barr came off as rude, as if we were bothering him to get an autograph. I'm not sure if he was just having a bad day, time of day or what, but the impression has stuck with me. Also on the note of Bryne, it turns out I did have access to a personalized email account which I used to register on his forum board awhile back. Registration went through (apparently) but when I first logged onto the site, I got a message basically saying that I needed to wait 24 hours before I could post anything.......that was 2 years ago. I'm STILL waiting for that 24 hour period to expire.
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Post by arfetto on Apr 18, 2022 12:23:26 GMT -5
I have never personally had a negative encounter with a creator because I try not to interact with them. I would prefer to focus on their creations without letting anything else interfere with the work.
And yet, I love to read interviews with creators because often these interviews provide more insight into the work and their creative process. So, I resign myself to feeling some disappointment if a creator says something in the interview that is rude or something, but I try my best to just put it aside. I think the first time I encountered this type of disappointment was reading a Barry Windsor-Smith interview when I was young and he was somewhat dismissive of the interviewer (I would have been nervous in the interviewer's place haha). But it does not really color my feelings on his work, which I think is amazing.
I have had two positive experiences with creators, though. One was when I commented on a great article written by one of my current favorite comic creators. I almost did not write the comment in fear that they would respond to me haha, but the article involved a big interest of mine so I was compelled to leave the comment. In the end, they did respond to my comment positively.
The other positive experience was in person. I had brought GI Joe issue 21 to one of the only comic conventions I went to so that it could be signed by Larry Hama. My intent was to have the person I was with get the signature for me. However, that person made me get the signature myself haha (well, they accompanied me). Hama was very nice and also was providing me insight about how to sell my own comics online. I am a bad conversationalist so in fact I probably seemed like the rude one haha. It seemed like he was willing to talk to me for quite awhile, but I was too nervous and left when I could (without hopefully seeming too rude).
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