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Post by tarkintino on Mar 31, 2022 8:34:16 GMT -5
I don't care for any Spielberg film featuring aliens. I thought he hit the right tone and plot in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The only issue is that the end credits soundtrack had adapted a part of "When You Wish Upon A Star," but at the time, Spielberg had not fully inhaled the myth that all things Disney was "wonderful"--unlike the period when he directed the dreaded E.T.
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 31, 2022 8:42:07 GMT -5
Why was the inclusion of a bar from "When you wish..." a problem, considering the Disney references in the film?
I liked E.T., it's a lovely fairy tale.
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Post by tarkintino on Mar 31, 2022 13:43:11 GMT -5
Why was the inclusion of a bar from "When you wish..." a problem, considering the Disney references in the film? I liked E.T., it's a lovely fairy tale. Adding that to the end was just overkill, as if he (Spielberg) was thinking, "If my Disney thing was not clear enough, here's the song!"
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Post by kirby101 on Mar 31, 2022 14:43:41 GMT -5
Why was the inclusion of a bar from "When you wish..." a problem, considering the Disney references in the film? I liked E.T., it's a lovely fairy tale. Adding that to the end was just overkill, as if he (Spielberg) was thinking, "If my Disney thing was not clear enough, here's the song!"I can see that. But it depends when you saw it. When it came out in 78, Disney was not DISNEY. There weren't the video tapes, and then DVDs and then Streaming in every home. Pinocchio was re-released every so often, but it was something from most people's childhood, not a presence the way it is now. I think the reaction for most of the audience was a little smile of recognition.
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Post by tonebone on Mar 31, 2022 17:03:05 GMT -5
Adding that to the end was just overkill, as if he (Spielberg) was thinking, "If my Disney thing was not clear enough, here's the song!"I can see that. But it depends when you saw it. When it came out in 78, Disney was not DISNEY. There weren't the video tapes, and then DVDs and then Streaming in every home. Pinocchio was re-released every so often, but it was something from most people's childhood, not a presence the way it is now. I think the reaction for most of the audience was a little smile of recognition.
And it was a callback to happy childhood memories, and the power of imagination. At that time, movies in a theater were magical things to a kid, and that's how the audience would have seen Pinocchio. The song also played into the idea that Roy was on the cusp of something that he couldn't define or understand and desperately wanted to, just like Pinocchio wanted to be a real boy. And remember the blue fairy came down from the sky, as a twinkling star, and was benevolent.
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Post by tonebone on Mar 31, 2022 17:12:44 GMT -5
I don't care for any Spielberg film featuring aliens. I thought he hit the right tone and plot in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The only issue is that the end credits soundtrack had adapted a part of "When You Wish Upon A Star," but at the time, Spielberg had not fully inhaled the myth that all things Disney was "wonderful"--unlike the period when he directed the dreaded E.T.I liked ET... I was eleven. I think it's a great movie. I don't remember a lot of "Disney was wonderful" references though. I prefer the cops wielding guns, not walkie-talkies, however.
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Post by tarkintino on Mar 31, 2022 18:38:49 GMT -5
I thought he hit the right tone and plot in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. The only issue is that the end credits soundtrack had adapted a part of "When You Wish Upon A Star," but at the time, Spielberg had not fully inhaled the myth that all things Disney was "wonderful"--unlike the period when he directed the dreaded E.T.I liked ET... I was eleven. I think it's a great movie. I don't remember a lot of "Disney was wonderful" references though. I prefer the cops wielding guns, not walkie-talkies, however. Geeze. I forgot about the walkie-talkie changes. The theatrical version was not sugary ("safe") enough for Spielberg, so he removed the guns. Sigh.
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Post by pinkfloydsound17 on Apr 1, 2022 10:01:53 GMT -5
What do you think is almost universally liked/disliked? You are not the only Bronze Age Spidey fan. ASM 100-200 is a beloved stretch of mine! More so because of the art than the writing for me. As for universally liked and disliked, I feel these forums (generally) are older collectors (40+). The perspectives of 18-30 year old collectors might not be as represented here....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2022 10:04:36 GMT -5
As you like Bronze Age Spidey, drinks are on me if you’re ever in the UK.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 1, 2022 10:30:53 GMT -5
As for universally liked and disliked, I feel these forums (generally) are older collectors (40+). The perspectives of 18-30 year old collectors might not be as represented here.... This is true. I came to this forum when I was about 26 or so and was just starting back into comics. A lot of my tastes skewed older, but I'd be very surprised to see someone younger than 20 actually into the hobby full-steam due to how niche it still is unfortunately
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Post by Marv-El on Apr 6, 2022 11:20:22 GMT -5
I love Batman Year One, for me, it's the origin for my Batman since this was around the time I started reading DC more regularly. I finally got around to reading Untold Legend of Batman awhile back and yes, it was pretty darn good too but I remain a Year One enthusiast.
As for other comics that may garner near universal praise, Swamp Thing especially by Moore. Never read it, probably never will since I have zero interest in muck monsters (sorry Man-Thing) regardless of how well they may be written. Same goes for Walking Dead, zombies are so passe, have no interest in them regardless of how many iterations they come up with. I've been told there's more to it than just zombies, the story & struggle of Rick and his survivors, that's all fine and dandy but if I'm not engaged by the overarching milieu (zombie apocalypse) then I'm not going to be interested in any story set within that.
As for films, I saw ET once, in the theater, when it was first released. That was only because I had been bugging my mom for weeks to get out of the house and go see a movie in the theaters. ET just happened to have been recently released at that time. I have no memory of what happened in it (other than flying on a bicycle and phone home) and I have no desire to see it again (although I did have fun on my day out with Mom). Close Encounters, though, is a fine film, one I enjoy quite a bit and will re-watch it whenever I do come across it.
I hate Forrest Gump. I've never seen it and never will. When it was released, all the glowing reviews and heartwarming reception was tough to endure but it was all the late night skit shows, the late night talk hosts, who had their endless versions of "Life is like a box of chocolates insert your own lame joke here" that pretty much spoiled any intention I ever had for watching the film. It was over-exposed by all the media hype and love.
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Post by tarkintino on Apr 6, 2022 11:53:42 GMT -5
I finally got around to reading Untold Legend of Batman awhile back and yes, it was pretty darn good too but I remain a Year One enthusiast. Untold Legend of The Batman was a short, but effective miniseries--a strong entry to start off the decade of the 80s. Yeah, E.T. was a "one and done" film, and have zero desire to see it again. Spielberg's best sci-fi film without a doubt, and one of the greatest of his entire career. Tom Hanks was more than enough to keep me away from that film.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 6, 2022 12:03:50 GMT -5
I'm with you all about the inanity of Forrest Gump.
Message: The world is a beautiful uncomplicated place if you're a moron.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2022 12:06:23 GMT -5
I'm with you ll about the inanity of Forrest Gump. Message: The world is a beautiful uncomplicated place if you're a moron. I actually cried after seeing the film. I cried because I realised that I’d wasted time I’d never get back. I cried for the fact my dad had spent hard-earned money on the cinema tickets for us. Can’t stand the film!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2022 12:13:50 GMT -5
There's been significant backlash against Forrest Gump and its themes in the ensuing 25+ years.
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