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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 6, 2022 12:32:14 GMT -5
As for other comics that may garner near universal praise, Swamp Thing especially by Moore. Never read it, probably never will since I have zero interest in muck monsters (sorry Man-Thing) regardless of how well they may be written. Same goes for Walking Dead, zombies are so passe, have no interest in them regardless of how many iterations they come up with. I've been told there's more to it than just zombies, the story & struggle of Rick and his survivors, that's all fine and dandy but if I'm not engaged by the overarching milieu (zombie apocalypse) then I'm not going to be interested in any story set within that. As far as I am concerned you are not missing anything. My wife and son both watched it and went on and on about it to me till I finally gave it a chance. I watched the first either three or four season before I got tired of it. You ended up hating almost every character in the story because they always ended being a$$holes for whatever reason and almost every human you encountered was either a terrible person or depressingly self-loathing to advance the narrative. There were about two character that we actually likable to me and one of them didn't even last a season. So yeah don't waste your time if you ask me. The zombies weren't the villains. The humans were.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 6, 2022 13:52:18 GMT -5
There's been significant backlash against Forrest Gump and its themes in the ensuing 25+ years. Not enough.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2022 13:54:40 GMT -5
There's been significant backlash against Forrest Gump and its themes in the ensuing 25+ years. From the public, critics or both?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Apr 6, 2022 13:55:03 GMT -5
There's been significant backlash against Forrest Gump and its themes in the ensuing 25+ years. From the public, critics or both? Yes.
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Post by badwolf on Apr 6, 2022 14:31:38 GMT -5
Forrest Gump never looked like a film I wanted to see.
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Post by Prince Hal on Apr 6, 2022 14:45:15 GMT -5
Forrest Gump never looked like a film I wanted to see. With any luck it never will.
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Post by berkley on Apr 6, 2022 15:19:38 GMT -5
Not a fan of Hanks at all. I saw one or two of his comedies in the 1980s - Bachelor Party and I think one other - and that was enough for me. So I've taken a pass on everything since then.
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Post by badwolf on Apr 6, 2022 15:56:50 GMT -5
Everybody talks about him like he's some great actor, but he always seems the same to me.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 6, 2022 15:56:52 GMT -5
I've always hated Forrest Gump. I saw it when it came out in the early 90s and thought it was one of the most offensively right-wing films I had ever seen. I still maintain that opinion.
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Post by Batflunkie on Apr 6, 2022 18:32:17 GMT -5
As for other comics that may garner near universal praise, Swamp Thing especially by Moore. Never read it, probably never will since I have zero interest in muck monsters (sorry Man-Thing) regardless of how well they may be written. Same goes for Walking Dead, zombies are so passe, have no interest in them regardless of how many iterations they come up with. I've been told there's more to it than just zombies, the story & struggle of Rick and his survivors, that's all fine and dandy but if I'm not engaged by the overarching milieu (zombie apocalypse) then I'm not going to be interested in any story set within that. My mom was/is big into Swamp Thing, I could never get passed the first issue. Man-Thing on the other hand, I read it out of a curious devotion to Gerber and it slowly became one of my favorite works of his. If I ever buy another omnibus, which isn't too likely, it'll probably be Man-Thing
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Post by kirby101 on Apr 6, 2022 19:53:00 GMT -5
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Post by Duragizer on Apr 6, 2022 21:18:54 GMT -5
Forrest Gump was one of those movies I absolutely loved back in the day. Rewatched it some years back, and couldn't stomach the saccharine tone or the plot contrivances. I still liked most of the characters, though.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 7, 2022 0:58:59 GMT -5
To each their own, but I'd say that the example above regarding Bubba is disingenuous insofar as that is just an interpretation of one plot event centring around a minor character in an otherwise blatantly right-wing narrative. Likewise, the idea that Jenny was a "well-fleshed-out, deeply felt character" is laughable to me: she's as two-dimensional a left-winger, hippie cliche as it's possible to imagine. The "gatekeepery" inference of that article that if you don't agree with what it says then you have misunderstood the film is simple misdirection. Forrest Gump is not a film by some artsy cinematic auteur which is littered with subtext and open to a wealth of different interpretations: it's a piece of mainstream, lightweight feel-good cinematic fluff. What you see is what you get with that film. The overarching message of Forrest Gump is clear for anyone with eyes to see: obey the laws, do what you're told, don't do drugs, join the army, don't be promiscuous, support your government etc, etc, and everything will turn out fine. If you don't, you will be headed for disaster, depression and death. Any character that exhibits an independent nature or more liberal view of life in that film suffers for their decisions. But putting aside the blatant right-wing slant of the script, perhaps the most offensive part of the film is its reliance on the "disability as superpower" or "child as savant" trope. Having learning difficulties or being physically handicapped is not something that makes you wiser than everyone else by dint of your simplicity of thought or the "separateness" that it bestows on you. Likewise, a childish or child-like outlook does not automatically make life wonderful by dint of you not being able to understanding the complexities of it. For most disabled people, there is no superpower inherent in their condition, no savant syndrome. For most, having a mental of physical disability just makes life really bloody difficult almost all of the time. To suggest otherwise, as Forrest Gump does, is insulting and patronising to the disabled community and movie audience alike (see also Rain Man).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2022 5:30:14 GMT -5
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Post by Icctrombone on Apr 7, 2022 6:23:50 GMT -5
At the risk of this turning political ( too late) , I saw the movie without the politics that some want to graft onto it. It was a silly movie where a person who was mentally slow fell into many fortunes and where many characters with flaws and tragic histories ended up with logical conclusions to their actions.
Let's not get this thread locked also.
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