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Post by tarkintino on Feb 11, 2022 9:09:37 GMT -5
Amazingly, Spider-Man is not being picked upon even though he has a string of books every month for the past 30+ years, and loads of movie appearances
Well, in comics, he had/s a ton of titles, but one would need to look up SM's numbers against Wolverine and Batman. Just from memory, the 80s and 90s was Wolverine bursting Marvel at the seams. There was no getting away from him, and playing into certain fan mentalities, his personality and/or actions would be written to become more extreme as time moved forward. It says something that a character like Archie Andrews--THE face of a publishing franchise who appeared--in one way or another--nearly every title the company published for more than 70 years--still did not feel as overexposed as Wolverine.
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Post by sunofdarkchild on Feb 11, 2022 9:14:04 GMT -5
Wolverine for me because it's the least justifiable for him. Batman and Spider-Man started out as their own franchises long before they joined any team. Superman appearing in many places makes sense given his power level and overall importance to the DC universe on every level. Wolverine would be on 2 X-Men teams and the Avengers and have solo adventures and 30 guest appearances all at the same time. It's not normal for even overexposed characters to be on teams from completely different franchises at the same time.
Right now there is Lives of Wolverine, Deaths of Wolverine, and Life of Wolverine, all at the same time. The first 2 are being billed as the big X-Men event that are shaping the entire future of the mutant race. Deaths seems like it's actually not so much about Wolverine despite the title, but this is absurd in any universe, and there is no reason for any X-Men event to focus on him when the X-Men have formed a literal nation. What is the point of having a nation at all if the focus is going to be so squarely on one person and the whole universe has to revolve around him? It's made worse by the fact that he stopped being interesting decades ago after Claremont left the X-Men.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 11, 2022 9:16:54 GMT -5
Spiderman having multiple titles when I started in the 90's didn't really bother me because I never collected any one title. Mostly I would look at all the Spiderman titles that month and if one looked interesting I would buy it. If not I wouldn't. Other than the clone saga, in the 90's, the titles mostly stayed to themselves so you could just buy an issue and that would be fine. They might have a three to four issue story arc but it would usually be contained within that one Spiderman title. Whereas in the 90's there were multiple events that would pull all the X-titles into it, with Wolverine at the center of a lot of them as tarkintino mentioned above.
In the end I'm voting for Harley as she is the character that has most disappointingly changed from the fun loving crazy gal from Batman TAS.
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Post by Bronze age andy on Feb 11, 2022 9:25:33 GMT -5
Batman for sure. If you factor in the rest of the Batman Family that's about %70 of DC's output for the past 30 years.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 11, 2022 9:47:22 GMT -5
Ultimately, any character that creates a sales bump on any given box will be exploited to the max. After the time of the Avengers movie there seemed to be about 5 books with the Avengers name being published. It died down but now the book with the most spin offs seems to be the Batman franchise. I give a bit more leeway to "flagship" characters like Spider-Man or Batman.
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Post by mikelmidnight on Feb 11, 2022 12:41:16 GMT -5
I voted for Wolverine because during my heaviest comic buying years, he seemed to be guest-starring in every single Marvel book every month, which is kind of odd for a brooding loner. Plus he wasn't that interesting a character to begin with: his main personality trait being that he is a mass-murdering berserker. And these days he's an Avenger I'm told?
I voted for the Joker. But re: Woverine … he's a character (like the Punisher) who is supposed be to an outlier. He's someone for the more mainstream heroes to react against. Once he becomes the mainstream, the 'universe' as a whole suffers because the narratives are nothing other than justifications for extreme violence.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 11, 2022 13:05:35 GMT -5
I voted for Wolverine because during my heaviest comic buying years, he seemed to be guest-starring in every single Marvel book every month, which is kind of odd for a brooding loner. Plus he wasn't that interesting a character to begin with: his main personality trait being that he is a mass-murdering berserker. And these days he's an Avenger I'm told?
I voted for the Joker. But re: Woverine … he's a character (like the Punisher) who is supposed be to an outlier. He's someone for the more mainstream heroes to react against. Once he becomes the mainstream, the 'universe' as a whole suffers because the narratives are nothing other than justifications for extreme violence.
You worded this perfectly.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2022 13:12:06 GMT -5
In the end I'm voting for Harley as she is the character that has most disappointingly changed from the fun loving crazy gal from Batman TAS. Maybe I'm biased but I like seeing a female character doing so well.
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Post by shaxper on Feb 11, 2022 13:24:53 GMT -5
Surprised Darkseid didn't make the list.
I chose Batman just because the amount of low quality crud with Batman's name on it that flooded the market in the 1990s is staggering.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Feb 11, 2022 13:42:12 GMT -5
In the end I'm voting for Harley as she is the character that has most disappointingly changed from the fun loving crazy gal from Batman TAS. Maybe I'm biased but I like seeing a female character doing so well. Don't get me wrong I don't mind that she has changed for a different audience and done well with it. She's just not my cup of tea anymore. Neither is Deadpool or Batman for that matter. But all three are still successful. That was just my answer to the poll.
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Post by james on Feb 11, 2022 13:55:13 GMT -5
I used to love the guy, but I had to vote for Wolverine. I remember when I first started reading. The X-men at age 11. I thought he was the best. Love his attitude etc. but by the time I was 30. I found him annoying and really not interesting. I wonder if it was just getting old that made me lose interest. I really do t think he grew as I grew.
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Post by james on Feb 11, 2022 13:59:08 GMT -5
I could happily vote for about a half dozen of them. YES!!!!! I was thinking Harley, Joker, Batman, Wolverine etc. I thought it’s interesting the Thing is on the list. I can never get enough of a well written Thing.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 11, 2022 14:02:14 GMT -5
I could happily vote for about a half dozen of them. YES!!!!! I was thinking Harley, Joker, Batman, Wolverine etc. I thought it’s interesting the Thing is on the list. I can never get enough of a well written Thing. I was a bit surprised at the inclusion of The Thing also. I haven't followed Marvel with any regularity for over 30 years, but I do keep my eyes open and he doesn't seem to appear all that much and hasn't had an ongoing in decades.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 11, 2022 14:08:47 GMT -5
He was a red herring.
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Post by james on Feb 11, 2022 14:09:01 GMT -5
YES!!!!! I was thinking Harley, Joker, Batman, Wolverine etc. I thought it’s interesting the Thing is on the list. I can never get enough of a well written Thing. I was a bit surprised at the inclusion of The Thing also. I haven't followed Marvel with any regularity for over 30 years, but I do keep my eyes open and he doesn't seem to appear all that much and hasn't had an ongoing in decades. Now with that said, I am sure when MCU gets its hooks into the FF in the next 5-10 years I will be tired of Ben. 😔😔😔
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