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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 12, 2018 4:55:49 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 5:14:21 GMT -5
I agree with you Icc -- Digital can led to problems that no one wants to bear. I really feel so sorry to the person having games deleted in a big way that can't be recovered ... I'm not a fan of digital comics and anything that related.
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Post by Confessor on Aug 12, 2018 5:44:18 GMT -5
I've heard of albums being deleted from iTunes or Apple Music after a few years for whatever legal reasons, and therefore vanishing from people's digital music collection too. The business model for digitally supplied, virtual product seems to be that you pay for access to the product, rather than ownership of it...and your ability to gain access can change overnight.
Myself, I'm old fashioned enough to feel that unless you own a physical copy of a book, album, movie etc, then you don't really have it as part of your collection. Having 10,000 albums in mp3 format on your PC is not the same thing to me as having a physical collection of 10,000 LPs or CDs.
Humans are tactile creatures and tangibility is important to us, which, I believe, is why we've seen such a resurgence in interest in such a woefully obsolete format as vinyl records. Physical ownership of an object is important -- since prehistoric times we've decorated our caves/homes with physical objects that reflect who we are. It's why we have pictures on our walls or books on our bookshelves. The digital revolution will never completely change that basic human desire for tangible objects.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 12, 2018 5:56:21 GMT -5
Digital is okay if you just want to consume it and not collect it. I use Spotify to listen to music and I don't care that I don't have physical cd's or albums. But if you want to go back to it again and again, it's better to have a physical item to access. I have a pretty big DVD collection of the MCU and I watch them over again when I want to. That's something that streaming can't give.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2018 9:40:44 GMT -5
I'm old school. I don't trust digital. My oldest daughter lost her whole library of music once when her iPod malfunctioned. My wife lost 1000's of pictures when her hard drive failed on her laptop. I still like having a physical copy of stuff I like.
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Post by Cei-U! on Aug 12, 2018 9:54:38 GMT -5
It's a serious problem that extends well past digital music or comics. Our dependence on computers leaves us scarily vulnerable, as I learned during my days at the Washington State Attorney General's Office. Sooner or later, sombody's going to come up with a killer virus or EMP weapon capable of permanently erasing computer records and civilization as we know it will be ell and truly f'ed.
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Post by Søren on Aug 12, 2018 10:31:07 GMT -5
I thought this. Why I love having something in my hands, it's just nicer and no worries it can be deleted somehow. This goes for photos, comics and CDs, you don't get the book in digital CD with lyrics or cool artwork. not a gamer but feel would prefer hard copy of games too.
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 12, 2018 10:53:24 GMT -5
I've got over 10,000 virtual issues on Comixology, Dark Horse Digital and some other downloads.
Something could happen, but I have faith in those companies to make right if something goes askew.
Nothing's perfect, but I believe that in this digitally-sharing world, someway somehow if that happened they'd find a way to correct the situation.
Since my two back surgeries, it's extremely difficult for me to maneuver my boxed collection until I get it re-boxed and cataloged.
I love having the digital issues at instant access, no physical space being taken up, sorted by different filters instantly, and reading in Guided View or enhanced mode where the panel fills the screen of my PC, phone, or usually, my iPad.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 12, 2018 12:17:33 GMT -5
I have a sub to MU and I enjoy reading the newer stuff that way because I doubt I'll buy them.
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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 12, 2018 12:27:11 GMT -5
Like I said before, I'll buy a DVD only if I plan on watching it more than once. I didn't buy Dr. Strange or Black Panther because once is enough.
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Post by beccabear67 on Aug 12, 2018 13:45:53 GMT -5
Anything I have digital I either back-up on an isolated external 1TB hard drive, or burn to DVD-R as files. I have started to pay sometimes for lossless audio downloads. A few Big Finish audio dramas but also some new CD releases. Even bought a few e-magazines/e-comics, but definitely prefer having the hard copies for that if I can.
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Post by String on Aug 12, 2018 16:44:47 GMT -5
Like I said before, I'll buy a DVD only if I plan on watching it more than once. I didn't buy Dr. Strange or Black Panther because once is enough. Plus, with such movies being accessible on Netflix, Hulu, Amazon video, streaming services and such, I can watch these films at almost any time I desire so why bother buying a physical DVD/blu-ray copy of it? As for digital comics, it helps me save space at home and helps me sort out and decide what I really want to own physically. I'm not cluttering up space at home with needless runs and issues. Through digital sales, I still support those titles that I enjoy but it also helps me better determine those runs that I develop a special affinity for and thus warrants owning a physical copy of with a trade edition. So if I suddenly lose access to my digital library for some reason, I'm not going to stress out over it too much for those reasons. |
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Post by badwolf on Aug 12, 2018 16:47:46 GMT -5
I have to admit I came to love the idea of digital software. No more boxes and outdated CD-ROMs filling up my closet! But this is a worry, if a distant one.
I also buy plenty of digital music. With my 1000-CD shelf unit reaching full capacity, it's my only option if I don't want to look like a hoarder. I do backups, but they don't always works. Some files get glitched or end up inexplicably missing entirely. Not a lot, but a few.
I don't ever plan to get into e-books and as far as e-comics, no way. Can't imagine reading on a tiny device. Likewise movies.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 12, 2018 20:14:45 GMT -5
I've got over 10,000 virtual issues on Comixology, Dark Horse Digital and some other downloads. Something could happen, but I have faith in those companies to make right if something goes askew. Nothing's perfect, but I believe that in this digitally-sharing world, someway somehow if that happened they'd find a way to correct the situation. Since my two back surgeries, it's extremely difficult for me to maneuver my boxed collection until I get it re-boxed and cataloged. I love having the digital issues at instant access, no physical space being taken up, sorted by different filters instantly, and reading in Guided View or enhanced mode where the panel fills the screen of my PC, phone, or usually, my iPad. Yeah, I'm the same way and I haven't had any issues yet. It's funny, I'm the opposite as some here as I've grown to trust digital more over the years. I've lost and had to rebuild my physical comic collection twice due to a flood and a fire in the last two decades but have yet to lose a single digital copy in 20 years. The only time I ever feared I'd lose an issue was when Disney bought Star Wars I thought for sure that my Star Wars issues I had purchased on Dark Horse would be gone and I just chalked it up shifting owners...but surprisingly they're all still in my library. Are their rights issues that could take a bite out of my digital collection? Sure thing, and the companies involved could become insolvent and shudder their digital libraries completely...but it hasn't happened yet. |
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Post by hondobrode on Aug 12, 2018 20:17:44 GMT -5
Digital is a legitimate form and highly profitable from a business perspective. I trust Amazon, Comixology's owner, and Dark Horse as well. In fact, I couldn't be more confident in either and am very happy with my digital purchases. I still purchase paper but it's much less frequently than digital.
In fact, on Comixology, you're able to download any content except for Marvel or DC, but I'm pretty sure it's eventually going to happen.
In the meantime, there's lots of other good stuff out there besides the Big Two, and I'm not worried about it at all.
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