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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 10:28:12 GMT -5
If I were Cei-U!, this is where I'd say, "I feel pretty!" Well, I do. I *think* I'm thankful for that, too, but I'm still sorting it out. You just keep telling yourself that, Quasimodo. Cei-U!
I summon the poor deluded bastard (meaning Dan, of course)!Takes one to know ... well, y'know. |
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Post by berkley on Sept 24, 2014 22:49:12 GMT -5
Plastic bags and boards are wrappers to be thrown away!!! **flees**Totally agree. The first thing I do when I unpack a new order of backissues is to get rid of all that stuff. |
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Post by zryson on Sept 24, 2014 22:50:31 GMT -5
When it comes to hoarders in general, I feel sorry for them. I know many people dont, and feel they created their own problem and that they arent worthy of helping but I think the problem needs a multifaceted approach, that forced clean-outs dont really work unless the hoarder themselves acknowledges they have a problem and need help.
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Post by zryson on Sept 24, 2014 23:14:35 GMT -5
You can tell the difference between a collector and a hoarder because a hoarder just has stuff all over the place and its a very unclean environment. Its like a person I visited in person earlier this year. His house was disgusting, the inside was filthy, the carpets hadnt been cleaned for a very long time, there were insects crawling about on the walls and items and none of the rooms were clean and there was just stuff everywhere. Its fair to say that chaos reined in that house but to the owner of the house he seemed oblivious to the chaos around him which made it all the sadder.
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Post by durgaprasadzone on Sept 25, 2014 1:44:13 GMT -5
thanks for inf
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Post by durgaprasadzone on Sept 25, 2014 1:45:30 GMT -5
thanks for info
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Post by shaxper on Sept 25, 2014 3:37:13 GMT -5
You can tell the difference between a collector and a hoarder because a hoarder just has stuff all over the place and its a very unclean environment. Its like a person I visited in person earlier this year. His house was disgusting, the inside was filthy, the carpets hadnt been cleaned for a very long time, there were insects crawling about on the walls and items and none of the rooms were clean and there was just stuff everywhere. Its fair to say that chaos reined in that house but to the owner of the house he seemed oblivious to the chaos around him which made it all the sadder. Well, I think the kind of hoarder you're portraying here is an extreme example, the kind you see on reality television. I suspect most real-life hoarders aren't living in those kinds of extreme conditions. I've known several hoarders in my life, and all were more or less functional, able to conduct a normal (and sanitary) lifestyle while obsessing over acquiring things for which they had no possible need. |
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Post by zryson on Sept 25, 2014 3:47:35 GMT -5
When I think of hoarders I think of people so compelled to acquire acquisitions that it overtakes their life. They sometimes get very angry or violent too, when people point out to them they are a hoarder because their items are everything to them, which is why when it becomes such a problem professional help is necessary.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 25, 2014 3:55:54 GMT -5
When I think of hoarders I think of people so compelled to acquire acquisitions that it overtakes their life. They sometimes get very angry or violent too, when people point out to them they are a hoarder because their items are everything to them, which is why when it becomes such a problem professional help is necessary. I think you're jumping to an extreme assumption based on little evidence, Z. As with most mental and behavioral illnesses, most who suffer from the problem are not the extreme outliers. Be cautious when making sweeping judgments about any group of people  |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 25, 2014 3:57:09 GMT -5
Additionally, I sincerely doubt our op had in mind collectors who resort to anger and violence when someone tells them they collect too many comics.
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Post by zryson on Sept 25, 2014 3:59:39 GMT -5
Additionally, I sincerely doubt our op had in mind collectors who resort to anger and violence when someone tells them they collect too many comics. If I'm not mistaken in the original post, the person asked a question. As such, people are giving their own thoughts about the subject. Just the same as what I am doing. |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 25, 2014 4:01:43 GMT -5
Additionally, I sincerely doubt our op had in mind collectors who resort to anger and violence when someone tells them they collect too many comics. If I'm not mistaken in the original post, the person asked a question. As such, people are giving their own thoughts about the subject. Just the same as what I am doing. You're entitled to your opinion, Z, and I'm responding as a poster and not an administrator when I tell you that I think the opinion you've stated comes off as sweeping, ill-informed, and somewhat offensive. It's also out in left field from what the original post was discussing. You've done nothing wrong, broken no rules, and you have every right to continue to express your opinion. I just don't think it's a very informed one. |
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Post by zryson on Sept 25, 2014 4:02:14 GMT -5
I think you're jumping to an extreme assumption based on little evidence, Z. As with most mental and behavioral illnesses, most who suffer from the problem are not the extreme outliers. Be cautious when making sweeping judgments about any group of people People make judgements all the time based on their own individual thoughts. Topics such as this are always bound to be controversial. And not everybody will agree. |
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Post by shaxper on Sept 25, 2014 4:05:48 GMT -5
I think you're jumping to an extreme assumption based on little evidence, Z. As with most mental and behavioral illnesses, most who suffer from the problem are not the extreme outliers. Be cautious when making sweeping judgments about any group of people People make judgements all the time based on their own individual thoughts. Topics such as this are always bound to be controversial. And not everybody will agree. I think we can express difference of opinion and get controversial without passing sweeping judgment on a group we know very little about, nor straying so far from the implicit crux of what the op was asking. When you buy more comics than you need, is that hoarding? That's really not the kind of hoarder you're talking about. |
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Post by zryson on Sept 25, 2014 4:08:12 GMT -5
The question originally was simple but as the thread progressed, the topic did come to question what is hoarding, and people chimed in with their own individual thoughts. But its also interesting, because you say my opinion comes off as sweeping, ill-informed, and somewhat offensive. And yet I have not made any comment in regards to any member here.
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