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Post by Icctrombone on Aug 5, 2017 7:44:11 GMT -5
The consider "saga" to be synonymous with story. A three issue story is said to be a saga even if it's not literal.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 5, 2017 10:41:46 GMT -5
Still, I don't see why it wouldn't be acceptable to discuss my point of view You specifically attempted to argue that it wasn't your point of view -- it was a matter of fact based upon the etymology of the word. Then please stop attempting to invalidate specific member nominations. |
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Post by Crimebuster on Aug 5, 2017 11:28:39 GMT -5
Ah, we'll all friends here, having fun! I think we can actually blame the American comic book industry for any confusion over what constitutes a "saga," because the Big Two co-opted the term a long time ago for their longer storylines. Which is a typical Stan Lee thing to do! Stories like The Korvac Saga, The Dark Phoenix Saga, The Great Darkness Saga, and The Eternity Saga, just to name a few off the top of my head, have created a different meaning for the word "saga" that is specific to mainstream American comic book storylines of atypical length and scope. Which is the definition shaxper based the rules for this event on. For what it's worth, I think almost all of my entries for the list also fit Arthur Gordon Scratch's classic definition of saga, with the exception of the Mansion Siege storyline I had at #8, so I think for me, I subconsciously gave a greater weight to massively immersive sagas over extended arcs or storylines. There are plenty of those further down on my list, but the bigger, more ambitious sagas tended to rise to the top for me. Either way, I for one am glad to see the diversity of choices within the lists themselvesm, especially some of the choices people like Arthur are posting that are titles and stories I'm not familiar with, so I realy appreciate all the hard work shaxper has put into running the event.  |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 5, 2017 12:06:16 GMT -5
Still, I don't see why it wouldn't be acceptable to discuss my point of view You specifically attempted to argue that it wasn't your point of view -- it was a matter of fact based upon the etymology of the word. Then please stop attempting to invalidate specific member nominations. Seriously, please stop saying I did something I didn't, it's just twisting my words, this is the reason why I went away for so long. I just at best wish to put tthis as food for thought for upcoming entries, and again, I specifically stated that I do not wish to change the rules or invalidate any previous entries. And I argued my point of view that that the word "saga" has an actual meaning less vague then what I encountered here, and this based on etymology amongst other aspects. It's not an attempt to undermine your authority or anything, so please accept it for what it is instead of keeping telling me I did a bad thing. |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 5, 2017 13:30:22 GMT -5
It's not an attempt to undermine your authority or anything, so please accept it for what it is instead of keeping telling me I did a bad thing. You can undermine my authority all you want; the problem is that you do come off as attempting to undermine the event and the contributions of specific members. That's where there's an issue. If you say that's not the case, great. Let's move on. |
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Post by Arthur Gordon Scratch on Aug 5, 2017 14:06:05 GMT -5
It's not an attempt to undermine your authority or anything, so please accept it for what it is instead of keeping telling me I did a bad thing. You can undermine my authority all you want; the problem is that you do come off as attempting to undermine the event and the contributions of specific members. That's where there's an issue. If you say that's not the case, great. Let's move on. Perfect, I really just thought it was genuinely interesting to take up what traditionnaly constitutes a story, sorry if it mattered to me more than you think it should have. I really was only focused in this becaus I'm indeed interested in the saga genre, in finding about actual sagas I'm not familar with instead of mere story arcs, otherwise, why even bother call it saga and not just stories. That was my thought process, and again, there was no reason to assume otherwise as you wouldn't find in any of my posts any request to impose anything on future or past entries Now off to the first game of the new football season with my team Lyon, and let's hear about more sagas, the topic is indeed ace! |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2017 10:38:42 GMT -5
Update: As of Day 5, we have 55 different sagas nominated, with the following sagas taking the lead as of now:
Chris Claremont's X-Men
New Teen Titans: The Judas Contract
Watchmen
Swamp Thing (v. 1) #1-10
Elfquest: The First Arc
Life & Times of Scrooge McDuck
And some of you have begun to ask how we're going to handle honorable mentions, so allow me to elaborate. Honorable mentions DO count towards the final list. They will need to be ranked, starting at #11, and the point values will be as follows:
11 - 9 points
12 - 8 points
13 - 7 points
14 - 6 points
15 - 5 points
16 - 4 points
17 - 3 points
18 - 2 points
19 and beyond - 1 point (ties will be broken based upon which series gets the higher rank)
You can list as many or as few honorable mentions as you like so long as they are ranked.
Q. Do I need to do a write-up for my honorable mentions?
I'm reversing a decision I made earlier when @mrp asked the question, and I am now saying it's entirely optional. If one of your honorable mentions wasn't in anyone's Top 10 and ends up making the Top 100, thus requiring a write-up from you, I'll private message you and request one after the fact.
Let me know if you still have any questions!
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 6, 2017 14:22:08 GMT -5
Update: As of Day 5, we have 55 different sagas nominated, with the following sagas taking the lead as of now: Chris Claremont's X-Men New Teen Titans: The Judas Contract Watchmen Swamp Thing (v. 1) #1-10 Elfquest: The First Arc Life & Times of Scrooge McDuck And some of you have begun to ask how we're going to handle honorable mentions, so allow me to elaborate. Honorable mentions DO count towards the final list. They will need to be ranked, starting at #11, and the point values will be as follows: 11 - 9 points 12 - 8 points 13 - 7 points 14 - 6 points 15 - 5 points 16 - 4 points 17 - 3 points 18 - 2 points 19 and beyond - 1 point (ties will be broken based upon which series gets the higher rank) You can list as many or as few honorable mentions as you like so long as they are ranked. Q. Do I need to do a write-up for my honorable mentions? I'm reversing a decision I made earlier when @mrp asked the question, and I am now saying it's entirely optional. If one of your honorable mentions wasn't in anyone's Top 10 and ends up making the Top 100, thus requiring a write-up from you, I'll private message you and request one after the fact. Let me know if you still have any questions! Will there be a separate thread, and when shall it be posted? |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2017 14:23:38 GMT -5
Update: As of Day 5, we have 55 different sagas nominated, with the following sagas taking the lead as of now: Chris Claremont's X-Men New Teen Titans: The Judas Contract Watchmen Swamp Thing (v. 1) #1-10 Elfquest: The First Arc Life & Times of Scrooge McDuck And some of you have begun to ask how we're going to handle honorable mentions, so allow me to elaborate. Honorable mentions DO count towards the final list. They will need to be ranked, starting at #11, and the point values will be as follows: 11 - 9 points 12 - 8 points 13 - 7 points 14 - 6 points 15 - 5 points 16 - 4 points 17 - 3 points 18 - 2 points 19 and beyond - 1 point (ties will be broken based upon which series gets the higher rank) You can list as many or as few honorable mentions as you like so long as they are ranked. Q. Do I need to do a write-up for my honorable mentions? I'm reversing a decision I made earlier when @mrp asked the question, and I am now saying it's entirely optional. If one of your honorable mentions wasn't in anyone's Top 10 and ends up making the Top 100, thus requiring a write-up from you, I'll private message you and request one after the fact. Let me know if you still have any questions! Will there be a separate thread, and when shall it be posted? Yes. The day after Day 10. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 6, 2017 14:26:01 GMT -5
Nice, I'm excited to how all this shakes out.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2017 14:27:02 GMT -5
Nice, I'm excited to how all this shakes out. You and me both! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2017 18:26:52 GMT -5
Will there be a separate thread, and when shall it be posted? Yes. The day after Day 10. How long will you be leaving the HM open? I ask because I will be going to the beach Aug 11-13. To be honest most of my HM have already been mentioned...but I have one offbeat one I want to get on the list of HM! |
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2017 19:58:01 GMT -5
Yes. The day after Day 10. How long will you be leaving the HM open? I ask because I will be going to the beach Aug 11-13. To be honest most of my HM have already been mentioned...but I have one offbeat one I want to get on the list of HM! I was thinking of locking everything on August 15th, but I'm open on this. |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Aug 6, 2017 20:18:13 GMT -5
I was looking at the last list and one thing that jumps out to me is that Kingdom Come is going to jump up considerably from it's prior ranking.
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Post by shaxper on Aug 6, 2017 20:24:39 GMT -5
I was looking at the last list and one thing that jumps out to me is that Kingdom Come is going to jump up considerably from it's prior ranking. Yeah, that's one I really didn't expect to get more attention as we moved further and further from its date of publication. This year is already full of surprises; it's definitely going to be a very different list this time. |
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