|
Post by berkley on Mar 24, 2021 17:34:09 GMT -5
And wasn't Morrison forced to change the title from "Brown Skinned Girl"? In his 1996 bio, Inarticulate Speech of the Heart, John Collis quotes Van Morrison as saying that the working title of the song was indeed "Brown-Skinned Girl" but that he absentmindedly changed it himself at some point during the writing/recording process ("It just slipped my mind that I changed the title."). Ah, good to know. I had always heard of it as a case of censorship, but nice to find it was just a slip of the memory by Morrison.
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Mar 24, 2021 17:35:40 GMT -5
I wasn’t aware that there was any references to being gay. I thought some of the lyrics about “let’s get animal” was the problem because they cut that out of the song when it as played. Also , it didn’t go down right that John was seen as a wholesome figure before this song. the Video was "the gay" issue. Yeah MTV was pretty skittish about sweaty beefcake (tail end of the video) compared to skimpy cheesecake. Queen's "Body Language" was banned for similar reasons, as it has buff dancers, male and female, with arrows on their limbs, rolling around; but doing a lot less than I saw in other videos, from bands on the charts. I don't know if MTV ever originally showed Van Halen's video for "Pretty Woman; but, I never saw it on there. I later saw it on VH1 Classic and could easily see why they never showed it. I don't recall seeing the Pet Shop Boys' "Domino Dancing" on MTV; but, that was also when they were pulling back from video programming and the song and album weren't charting as highly in the US as in the UK and other parts of the world. However, I don't recall them showing any of their videos after Actually (their second album). It seemed like they had been written off as "gay dance music" over here, by the mainstream (which was very much MTV, by that time frame). I'm heterosexual and their music always seemed to have a quality that let it fit into whatever you wanted it to be, reading your own meaning into the lyrics. Yes, as a synth-pop act, their music tended more towards the dance realm; but, not entirely. The MPAA is the same way; you can have a gynecological exam and still be an R; but, show a penis and you hit NC17 territory, more often than not. same with depicting female sexual pleasure, other than over-the-top moaning or same-sex couples. The documentary This Film Is Not Yet Rated covers several battles with the MPAA over NC17 ratings and uncovers the people who make those decisions, usually rather arbitrarily and with a deep bias. Ironically, the documentary had its own battle with the MPAA and was shown without a rating, in theaters that would carry it.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2021 21:29:45 GMT -5
codystarbuck what amused me most about the "Physical" thing, is that MTV had no problem at all playing Dead or Alive's 1st single "That's the Way" because they filmed it with female bodybuilders. . .it was actually way more Sexual than Olivia's video was (and hysterically gay in it's own way - check out Pete at several points in this video, and the laugh out loud moment at ~1:30, when the only member of the band who gives the ladies a high score is the straight one!). . but they played it all the time. I didn't mind, since I was a big Dead or Alive fan from the very 1st album. . so loved seeing it:
|
|
|
Post by Duragizer on Mar 24, 2021 23:28:22 GMT -5
I love that video. Mainly because I like ladies with a bit of muscle.
There, I said it.
|
|
Confessor
CCF Mod Squad
Not Bucky O'Hare!
Posts: 9,586
|
Post by Confessor on Mar 25, 2021 6:25:02 GMT -5
I quite liked Dead Or Alive too, back in the day. I liked their single "That's the Way (I Like It)" enough to tape it off the radio in 1984, and I bought the Youthquake album in 1985 on the strength of the singles "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)", "Lover Come Back To Me" and "In Too Deep". I remember Youthquake being a pretty reasonable mid-80s Hi-NRG album, but they're not a band I listen to nowadays at all.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 8:44:39 GMT -5
I quite liked Dead Or Alive too, back in the day. I liked their single "That's the Way (I Like It)" enough to tape it off the radio in 1984, and I bought the Youthquake album in 1985 on the strength of the singles "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)", "Lover Come Back To Me" and "In Too Deep". I remember Youthquake being a pretty reasonable mid-80s Hi-NRG album, but they're not a band I listen to nowadays at all. well. . several of them have passed now, sadly (including Pete). so the band doesn't exist any longer. but - Pete (with occasional hired hands brought in), *did* release a number of very good singles - and at least one great album - as Dead or Alive thru the early 2000's.
this is one of my favorite DoA albums, and it came out in 1995. .Pete moved the band more towards "techno"
lots of songs on this album (including a cover of "Rebel Rebel"), but the two *standouts* (that are sometimes still heard in clubs - if you're in the "right" club):
and the big hit from this album:
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 8:44:54 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 13:24:18 GMT -5
I love You Spin me Round...my mum has the single and 12 inch dance remix. As much as I like cds, vinyl is awesome....
|
|
|
Post by impulse on Mar 25, 2021 13:47:00 GMT -5
My kids love You Spin Me Round, too, especially when I spin them while playing it.
I also enjoy vinyl when I want to listen to vinyl, but it's far too much work for everyday listening.
There, I have to flip it over already?? Again??
|
|
Confessor
CCF Mod Squad
Not Bucky O'Hare!
Posts: 9,586
|
Post by Confessor on Mar 25, 2021 13:52:43 GMT -5
I quite liked Dead Or Alive too, back in the day. I liked their single "That's the Way (I Like It)" enough to tape it off the radio in 1984, and I bought the Youthquake album in 1985 on the strength of the singles "You Spin Me Round (Like a Record)", "Lover Come Back To Me" and "In Too Deep". I remember Youthquake being a pretty reasonable mid-80s Hi-NRG album, but they're not a band I listen to nowadays at all. well. . several of them have passed now, sadly (including Pete). so the band doesn't exist any longer. but - Pete (with occasional hired hands brought in), *did* release a number of very good singles - and at least one great album - as Dead or Alive thru the early 2000's. this is one of my favorite DoA albums, and it came out in 1995. .Pete moved the band more towards "techno" lots of songs on this album (including a cover of "Rebel Rebel"), but the two *standouts* (that are sometimes still heard in clubs - if you're in the "right" club):
and the big hit from this album: Yeah, I knew about Pete Burns passing away. He was actually quite a big star here in Britain for years after Dead or Alive's heyday. He appeared on a few panel shows over the years, and was the subject of a TV documentary about the extraordinary amount of plastic surgery he had. He also appeared on the Big Brother show. He was probably as famous for being a distinctive looking and very outspoken celeb as he was for being the singer of the Dead or Alive over here.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2021 15:28:12 GMT -5
yeah. . his Autobiography "Freak Unique" is very good.
|
|
|
Post by Cei-U! on Mar 25, 2021 17:20:24 GMT -5
Does anyone else remember "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" by Napoleon XIV? Came out in the summer of '66. Raced into the Top Five and plummeted just as quickly, but this one dropped even faster than most novelty songs because it was dropped from playlists all over the country, even in NYC. www.songfacts.com/image/napoleon-xiv/theyre-coming-to-take-me-away-ha-haaaI think it may have been banned in Britain, too. Remember it? I was lionized in elementary school because I knew all the words and would sing it on request. One of many reasons--some I'm not so proud of--I was known as the king of the playground.
Cei-U! I summon those nice young men in their clean white coats!
|
|
|
Post by codystarbuck on Mar 26, 2021 0:11:18 GMT -5
well. . several of them have passed now, sadly (including Pete). so the band doesn't exist any longer. but - Pete (with occasional hired hands brought in), *did* release a number of very good singles - and at least one great album - as Dead or Alive thru the early 2000's. this is one of my favorite DoA albums, and it came out in 1995. .Pete moved the band more towards "techno" lots of songs on this album (including a cover of "Rebel Rebel"), but the two *standouts* (that are sometimes still heard in clubs - if you're in the "right" club):
and the big hit from this album: Yeah, I knew about Pete Burns passing away. He was actually quite a big star here in Britain for years after Dead or Alive's heyday. He appeared on a few panel shows over the years, and was the subject of a TV documentary about the extraordinary amount of plastic surgery he had. He also appeared on the Big Brother show. He was probably as famous for being a distinctive looking and very outspoken celeb as he was for being the singer of the Dead or Alive over here. Like his infamous appearance on Never Mind The Buzzcocks? Love that episode! The Boy George appearances were similar fun, though a bit less antagonistic. I do have to say, the collagen lips made it look like he was a Spitting Image puppet that had come to life!
|
|
|
Post by Roquefort Raider on Mar 26, 2021 7:47:39 GMT -5
A dude who claims online that our covid vaccines were developed impossibly quickly on account of our not having managed to get an HIV vaccine after decades of research is just showing that he has no %$# idea what he's talking about, and would be well advised to keep to what he knows.
There. I said it!
|
|
|
Post by EdoBosnar on Mar 26, 2021 8:18:44 GMT -5
(...) and would be well advised to keep to what he knows. He probably should, but I'm guessing people get tired of him describing the interior of one of his major bodily cavities.
|
|