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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2015 22:38:12 GMT -5
no one thinks that Wondy solicit cover is terrible?. . she looks like she has Polio on her bottom half!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 0:29:16 GMT -5
no one thinks that Wondy solicit cover is terrible?. . she looks like she has Polio on her bottom half! It's definitely a bad cover, proportions are wrong, the composition is lame and the coloring is terrible (and blotchy in the skin tones). But I have seen far, far worse, so I wouldn't call it among the worse of all time. -M
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 15, 2015 9:40:15 GMT -5
Talk about a boring cover! Spider-man's goofy distorted anatomy! The bland lime background! Bland lettering! Oh no the Enforcers! A classic cover from one of the best comic eras ever? Definitely not. In looking this up to see why it looked so different, I found that Ditko's first version was rejected (why I don't know, but when you look at it, it does seem cluttered), and that Kirby may have done the Spider-Man figure in the eventual cover. Maybe the blank background and the odd-looking boxless blurb were a concession to a deadline?
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 15, 2015 9:54:50 GMT -5
Maybe you can forgive a young Barry Smith or that DD was probably a poor seller but this cover is crappy. The figures look wonky and the prospective is a bit off. Are they running down the side of a building ? If so the Panther is in deep trouble and what's up with those people ?
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Post by DubipR on Oct 15, 2015 10:03:37 GMT -5
This is a horrid jumble mess
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 15, 2015 10:10:33 GMT -5
This is a horrid jumble mess After Jim Shooter left, Marvel became a place that allowed monstrosities like this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2015 10:25:59 GMT -5
Maybe you can forgive a young Barry Smith or that DD was probably a poor seller but this cover is crappy. The figures look wonky and the prospective is a bit off. Are they running down the side of a building ? If so the Panther is in deep trouble and what's up with those people ? That is pretty bad. Maybe they are being sucked through the air up the side of the building...how I wouldn't know. Does it really matter anyway? No sir it does not.
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 15, 2015 10:37:38 GMT -5
How exciting...a battle in cab. The Thing falling asleep with actual ZZZZZ in a word balloon (like we couldn't figure that out). Plus child abduction is never an entertaining theme. Also look at all that space after the Four in the title...you could drive a truck through that. Here I thought it was just an average comic cover only to discover it's a creepy occurrence on the level of Avengers #200.
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 15, 2015 11:05:31 GMT -5
Maybe you can forgive a young Barry Smith or that DD was probably a poor seller but this cover is crappy. The figures look wonky and the prospective is a bit off. Are they running down the side of a building ? If so the Panther is in deep trouble and what's up with those people ? Pretty miserable, indeed (Migod, look at that pose on Daredevil!), but you're right about forgiving Smith. It looks like he was trying to ape the Steranko-style op art covers on SHIELD and incorporating into that his Kirbyesque superheroes (Check out his first DD cover below, which seems to bear a few touches of Romita on the finishes) and his nascent pre-Raphaelite background figures. The kid with the upturned collar gives us a raw glimpse of what Smith's Conan would look like within another year or so. Smith's art may have gone through the most astonishing transformation more quickly than anyone else's. Compare those earliest Daredevils with his run on Conan; that they were only a couple of years apart was amazing.
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Post by MDG on Oct 15, 2015 11:28:01 GMT -5
Impossible to figure out what's going on. Although a "doom-button" am weally scawy-sounding. Perspective like a bad trip. Wonder if that ring is a subtle clue? Love the foot-long finger, too. No detail in the foreground, but it's very important to show us what's behind the doorful of giant gears. Blue for the names of the two "green" heroes? Mike Grell strikes again! I just noticed...Cananry's legs are a good distance into the room yet her hands are tied to the gears right behind her in the room through the doorway And why have a doorway there anyway? Why not show more of the gears so it's (a little) clearer what's going on?
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Post by Icctrombone on Oct 15, 2015 13:43:19 GMT -5
Does anything really need to be said? Worst cover of all time? More like Worlds creepiest. Two grown men watching preteen boys swimming who may or may not be clothed? Robin saying "gosh Bruce, can we, can we?" Batman contemplating on going in...waiting for Superman to go first? And since when is Superman's S on his cap blue? Nah, taken in the proper context, it was innocent. It looks like they are all considering going for a swim rather than 2 grown men leering at them.
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Post by Farrar on Oct 15, 2015 21:00:05 GMT -5
...(Check out his [B. Smith's] first DD cover below, which seems to bear a few touches of Romita on the finishes) ... The DD figure on this cover is by Colan (verified by GCD and some other sites). I mean, look at those large feet--a Colan trademark
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 15, 2015 21:19:37 GMT -5
...(Check out his first DD cover below, which seems to bear a few touches of Romita on the finishes) ... The DD figure on this cover is by Colan (verified by GCD and some other sites). I mean, look at those large feet--a Colan trademark With alterations by Romita, according to the GCD. Johnny Craig also and a hand in this mish-mash. Colan looks to be imitating Smith imitating Kirby, so maybe the figure of DD that Smith drew was God-awful, but they wanted the DD drawing to mesh with the rest of the cover.
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Post by Farrar on Oct 15, 2015 21:39:17 GMT -5
The DD figure on this cover is by Colan (verified by GCD and some other sites). I mean, look at those large feet--a Colan trademark With alterations by Romita, according to the GCD. Johnny Craig also and a hand in this mish-mash. Colan looks to be imitating Smith imitating Kirby, so maybe the figure of DD that Smith drew was God-awful, but they wanted the DD drawing to mesh with the rest of the cover. Not disputing the Craig and Romita contributions. But to me the DD figure screams Colan--which is why I looked it up to verify it. As you and others have noted, though, BWS eventually came into his own. Smith did the art of the worst issue of X-Men I ever read back then, #53. I was shocked a few years later when I saw the Conan work of Barry Windsor-Smith and realized they were one and the same artist.
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 15, 2015 21:57:52 GMT -5
With alterations by Romita, according to the GCD. Johnny Craig also and a hand in this mish-mash. Colan looks to be imitating Smith imitating Kirby, so maybe the figure of DD that Smith drew was God-awful, but they wanted the DD drawing to mesh with the rest of the cover. Not disputing the Craig and Romita contributions. But to me the DD figure screams Colan--which is why I looked it up to verify it. As you and others have noted, though, BWS eventually came into his own. Smith did the art of the worst issue of X-Men I ever read back then, #53. I was shocked a few years later when I saw the Conan work of Barry Windsor-Smith and realized they were one and the same artist. I remember that issue: hideous! And good catch on Colan. You were right about those feet.
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