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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 16, 2015 8:59:26 GMT -5
Super Sized Anniversary Issue! or "Did I leave something on the stove?" Again another bland background this time pooh colored. Who designed the logo with the S at the end of Superman? Is the title Superman or Supermans? Pretty poor looking Superman too.  That was the special tribute to Jay Leno's chin issue. |
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Post by Confessor on Oct 16, 2015 9:15:37 GMT -5
Nah, taken in the proper context, it was innocent. It looks like they are all considering going for a swim rather than 2 grown men leering at them. Yeah I understand the context of it at the time but it's still creepy to me looking through the eyes today. I hope you won't take this the wrong way, cooper, but I find your comment here saddening. There is absolutely nothing wrong with two grown men going for a swim with a bunch of teen or pre-teen boys, so long as that's all that's happening. That's as true today as it was when that comic cover was drawn. What's changed in the meantime is that the media have raised our awareness of and -- much more negatively -- our suspicion of child abuse to a level that, while helpful in some instances, is greatly out of whack with the potential for such incidents to occur in reality. Now, don't get me wrong, it's certainly healthy for society as a whole to be much more aware of the potential for child abuse, but it's a terrible shame when even the most innocent of scenarios causes people to leap to that kind of conclusion immediately. As you of course realise, that cover is as innocent as the day is long and, in the real world, such a scenario shouldn't be automatically construed as a situation where child abuse is obviously about to take place. The vast majority of grown men are not "kiddie fiddlers" and I, for one, think it's a shame that men these days are sometimes made to feel guilty or uncomfortable when interacting with youngsters of either sex. I realise that this is waaaaay off topic for this thread, but I just wanted to vent my frustration at society's ever more prevalent assumption that any grown man who interacts with children must be a pervert. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 10:16:38 GMT -5
Super Sized Anniversary Issue! or "Did I leave something on the stove?" Again another bland background this time pooh colored. Who designed the logo with the S at the end of Superman? Is the title Superman or Supermans? Pretty poor looking Superman too. That was the special tribute to Jay Leno's chin issue. Ringo had a penchant for Jay Leno chins in a lot of his super-hero work. Wally West was the primary example of it for the length of Ringo's run in Flash with Waid. The exaggerated square jaw was stylistic quirk of his. -M |
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Post by the4thpip on Oct 16, 2015 10:32:27 GMT -5
I love Denys Cowan, but these two covers are hardly his best work.   I know a lot of guys who neglect their leg workouts at the gym, but this is ridiculous. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 11:51:58 GMT -5
^^ looks like he was trying to draw in the "Sam Keith" style.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 12:20:57 GMT -5
Yeah I understand the context of it at the time but it's still creepy to me looking through the eyes today. I hope you won't take this the wrong way, cooper, but I find your comment here saddening. There is absolutely nothing wrong with two grown men going for a swim with a bunch of teen or pre-teen boys, so long as that's all that's happening. That's as true today as it was when that comic cover was drawn. What's changed in the meantime is that the media have raised our awareness of and -- much more negatively -- our suspicion of child abuse to a level that, while helpful in some instances, is greatly out of whack with the potential for such incidents to occur in reality. Now, don't get me wrong, it's certainly healthy for society as a whole to be much more aware of the potential for child abuse, but it's a terrible shame when even the most innocent of scenarios causes people to leap to that kind of conclusion immediately. As you of course realise, that cover is as innocent as the day is long and, in the real world, such a scenario shouldn't be automatically construed as a situation where child abuse is obviously about to take place. The vast majority of grown men are not "kiddie fiddlers" and I, for one, think it's a shame that men these days are sometimes made to feel guilty or uncomfortable when interacting with youngsters of either sex. I realise that this is waaaaay off topic for this thread, but I just wanted to vent my frustration at society's ever more prevalent assumption that any grown man who interacts with children must be a pervert. Looking back and thinking about what you said I see that I probably should not have posted the cover and commented on it like no did...sorry if it offended you in anyway...that was not my intention. Everything you said though was true. Thanks for your comments. |
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Post by Confessor on Oct 16, 2015 12:55:22 GMT -5
I hope you won't take this the wrong way, cooper, but I find your comment here saddening. There is absolutely nothing wrong with two grown men going for a swim with a bunch of teen or pre-teen boys, so long as that's all that's happening. That's as true today as it was when that comic cover was drawn. What's changed in the meantime is that the media have raised our awareness of and -- much more negatively -- our suspicion of child abuse to a level that, while helpful in some instances, is greatly out of whack with the potential for such incidents to occur in reality. Now, don't get me wrong, it's certainly healthy for society as a whole to be much more aware of the potential for child abuse, but it's a terrible shame when even the most innocent of scenarios causes people to leap to that kind of conclusion immediately. As you of course realise, that cover is as innocent as the day is long and, in the real world, such a scenario shouldn't be automatically construed as a situation where child abuse is obviously about to take place. The vast majority of grown men are not "kiddie fiddlers" and I, for one, think it's a shame that men these days are sometimes made to feel guilty or uncomfortable when interacting with youngsters of either sex. I realise that this is waaaaay off topic for this thread, but I just wanted to vent my frustration at society's ever more prevalent assumption that any grown man who interacts with children must be a pervert. Looking back and thinking about what you said I see that I probably should not have posted the cover and commented on it like no did...sorry if it offended you in anyway...that was not my intention. Everything you said though was true. Thanks for your comments. Hey, I'm not offended in the slightest, by you or your comments. I just think it's a shame that we all too quickly jump to those kind of conclusions these days. That's really all I was saying. It's all good, my friend.  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 13:53:18 GMT -5
This is a horrid jumble mess  I actually think it is pretty cool, but always hated the name "Force Works". |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2015 13:55:00 GMT -5
I really disliked a lot of Frank Millers early covers.  |
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Post by Ozymandias on Oct 16, 2015 13:57:45 GMT -5
Yeah I understand the context of it at the time but it's still creepy to me looking through the eyes today. I hope you won't take this the wrong way, cooper, but I find your comment here saddening. There is absolutely nothing wrong with two grown men going for a swim with a bunch of teen or pre-teen boys, so long as that's all that's happening. That's as true today as it was when that comic cover was drawn. What's changed in the meantime is that the media have raised our awareness of and -- much more negatively -- our suspicion of child abuse to a level that, while helpful in some instances, is greatly out of whack with the potential for such incidents to occur in reality. Now, don't get me wrong, it's certainly healthy for society as a whole to be much more aware of the potential for child abuse, but it's a terrible shame when even the most innocent of scenarios causes people to leap to that kind of conclusion immediately. As you of course realise, that cover is as innocent as the day is long and, in the real world, such a scenario shouldn't be automatically construed as a situation where child abuse is obviously about to take place. The vast majority of grown men are not "kiddie fiddlers" and I, for one, think it's a shame that men these days are sometimes made to feel guilty or uncomfortable when interacting with youngsters of either sex. I realise that this is waaaaay off topic for this thread, but I just wanted to vent my frustration at society's ever more prevalent assumption that any grown man who interacts with children must be a pervert. While I agree with your statement, it can't be ignored the influence Wertham exerted over the comic industry. That cover probably helped his case, and they weren't looking at it out of context. The argument was made at the time, however wrong it might've been. |
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Post by Prince Hal on Oct 16, 2015 14:24:41 GMT -5
This is a horrid jumble mess I actually think it is pretty cool, but always hated the name "Force Works". Speaking as a professional "old bastard," what makes this cover pretty cool? The name sounds less like a group's name than a statement from a neo-Fascist. |
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Post by the4thpip on Oct 16, 2015 14:25:23 GMT -5
I really disliked a lot of Frank Millers early covers. Proportional strength of a spider - in his buttocks! |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Oct 16, 2015 16:06:24 GMT -5
Yeah I understand the context of it at the time but it's still creepy to me looking through the eyes today. I hope you won't take this the wrong way, cooper, but I find your comment here saddening. There is absolutely nothing wrong with two grown men going for a swim with a bunch of teen or pre-teen boys, so long as that's all that's happening. That's as true today as it was when that comic cover was drawn. What's changed in the meantime is that the media have raised our awareness of and -- much more negatively -- our suspicion of child abuse to a level that, while helpful in some instances, is greatly out of whack with the potential for such incidents to occur in reality. Now, don't get me wrong, it's certainly healthy for society as a whole to be much more aware of the potential for child abuse, but it's a terrible shame when even the most innocent of scenarios causes people to leap to that kind of conclusion immediately. As you of course realise, that cover is as innocent as the day is long and, in the real world, such a scenario shouldn't be automatically construed as a situation where child abuse is obviously about to take place. The vast majority of grown men are not "kiddie fiddlers" and I, for one, think it's a shame that men these days are sometimes made to feel guilty or uncomfortable when interacting with youngsters of either sex. I realise that this is waaaaay off topic for this thread, but I just wanted to vent my frustration at society's ever more prevalent assumption that any grown man who interacts with children must be a pervert. Responding to your statement that I bolded, I had a situation a year or so back that relates to this. I was in the action figure aisle of a Toys R Us, looking for the latest offering from DC or Marvel, when a little boy who was also in the aisle started talking to me about one of the toys. We spoke for a minute or two, but I was uncomfortable wondering if his mother would walk up and freak out that some guy was talking to her kid. She didn't show up, and I left the store without incident, but it's a shame that I had to worry about that sort of thing. |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Oct 16, 2015 16:29:33 GMT -5
I don't know what was going on with the Superman titles after The Death of Superman, but once that mullet entered the picture, one bad cover after another just seemed par for the course over there.
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Post by chadwilliam on Oct 16, 2015 19:19:10 GMT -5
Hmmm...where to start? How about Green Arrow's witherly looking right hand. Is what happened to his beard the most important thing in the issue? According to the blurb on the cover I guess so. What about the gears Black Canary is bound to...talk about having no detail and not to mention a bland color. The villains word balloons also seem an afterthought. Don't forget the blurb at the top: Award Winning Comic! I don't think so!!!  Impossible to figure out what's going on. Although a "doom-button" am weally scawy-sounding. Perspective like a bad trip. Wonder if that ring is a subtle clue? Love the foot-long finger, too. No detail in the foreground, but it's very important to show us what's behind the doorful of giant gears. Blue for the names of the two "green" heroes? Mike Grell strikes again!
"Look at this thing - the perspective is all off, details come and go, proportions are screwed up - do they really expect me to buy this monstrosity? ...aw who am I kidding, how else am I gonna find out why Green Arrow's beard is missing"
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