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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 10:00:30 GMT -5
There is so much from the 90s that should just be erased. I already need a mind wipe, and I've only read a speck of it. There's so much form every decade that needs erased. The 90s produced a metric shit ton of good material too, but the bad is what is focused on. There was no more bad then, than in any other decade percentage wise, but there was a lot more produced in the 90s overall because of the momentum of the speculation wave. That wave led to a lot of drek, but it also provided an environment where there was enough room, money and buyers to produce a lot of the enduring gems of the overall comic oeuvre and get them out there to the audience. The whole Strugeon's law comes into play, 90% of stuff is crap, it's the other 10% that makes it worthwhile. It's true of every decade of comics, but in the 90s the total 100% was huge so the 90% was a huge amount of comics, but then so was the 10%. If people focused on the good instead of wallowing the crap, our perception of the decade might be a lot different. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 10:03:52 GMT -5
There is so much from the 90s that should just be erased. I already need a mind wipe, and I've only read a speck of it. There's so much form every decade that needs erased. The 90s produced a metric shit ton of good material too, but the bad is what is focused on. There was no more bad then, than in any other decade percentage wise, but there was a lot more produced in the 90s overall because of the momentum of the speculation wave. That wave led to a lot of drek, but it also provided an environment where there was enough room, money and buyers to produce a lot of the enduring gems of the overall comic oeuvre and get them out there to the audience. The whole Strugeon's law comes into play, 90% of stuff is crap, it's the other 10% that makes it worthwhile. It's true of every decade of comics, but in the 90s the total 100% was huge so the 90% was a huge amount of comics, but then so was the 10%. If people focused on the good instead of wallowing the crap, our perception of the decade might be a lot different. -M Sorry. |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 26, 2015 10:12:57 GMT -5
There is so much from the 90s that should just be erased. I already need a mind wipe, and I've only read a speck of it. There's so much form every decade that needs erased. The 90s produced a metric shit ton of good material too, but the bad is what is focused on. There was no more bad then, than in any other decade percentage wise, but there was a lot more produced in the 90s overall because of the momentum of the speculation wave. That wave led to a lot of drek, but it also provided an environment where there was enough room, money and buyers to produce a lot of the enduring gems of the overall comic oeuvre and get them out there to the audience. The whole Strugeon's law comes into play, 90% of stuff is crap, it's the other 10% that makes it worthwhile. It's true of every decade of comics, but in the 90s the total 100% was huge so the 90% was a huge amount of comics, but then so was the 10%. If people focused on the good instead of wallowing the crap, our perception of the decade might be a lot different. -M Sorry mrp, I think that the 90's had much more crap than any other decade. I dare say that too many comic companies were started up to cash in on the shiny cover craze. I never saw that in any other decade. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 10:13:26 GMT -5
There's so much form every decade that needs erased. The 90s produced a metric shit ton of good material too, but the bad is what is focused on. There was no more bad then, than in any other decade percentage wise, but there was a lot more produced in the 90s overall because of the momentum of the speculation wave. That wave led to a lot of drek, but it also provided an environment where there was enough room, money and buyers to produce a lot of the enduring gems of the overall comic oeuvre and get them out there to the audience. The whole Strugeon's law comes into play, 90% of stuff is crap, it's the other 10% that makes it worthwhile. It's true of every decade of comics, but in the 90s the total 100% was huge so the 90% was a huge amount of comics, but then so was the 10%. If people focused on the good instead of wallowing the crap, our perception of the decade might be a lot different. -M Sorry. Wasn't chastising you. But some of the best comics were produced in the 90s too, people forget that and lump everything together. Sometimes we need a reminder, myself included as I am jsut as guilty of 90s bashing as anyone. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2015 10:15:38 GMT -5
There's so much form every decade that needs erased. The 90s produced a metric shit ton of good material too, but the bad is what is focused on. There was no more bad then, than in any other decade percentage wise, but there was a lot more produced in the 90s overall because of the momentum of the speculation wave. That wave led to a lot of drek, but it also provided an environment where there was enough room, money and buyers to produce a lot of the enduring gems of the overall comic oeuvre and get them out there to the audience. The whole Strugeon's law comes into play, 90% of stuff is crap, it's the other 10% that makes it worthwhile. It's true of every decade of comics, but in the 90s the total 100% was huge so the 90% was a huge amount of comics, but then so was the 10%. If people focused on the good instead of wallowing the crap, our perception of the decade might be a lot different. -M Sorry mrp, I think that the 90's had much more crap than any other decade. I dare say that too many comic companies were started up to cash in on the shiny cover craze. I never saw that in any other decade. It did, because it had much more comics than any other decade. But it also had a lot more great stuff too. The percentage was the same, the volume greater. Of course a lot of the crap was concentrated in Marvel's output because it was trying to imitate the Image crap and people focus on Marvel way too much at times and assume Marvel defines all comics. -M |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 26, 2015 10:32:12 GMT -5
I remember a company called Triumphant Comics that released some books that were actually individually numbered for collectability. It had the most amateurish art you can imagine. This can only exist in an era when , because the Death of Superman sold 3 million copies, people began to see comics like an investment akin to gold or silver.  |
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Post by Cei-U! on Nov 26, 2015 11:02:45 GMT -5
There's so much form every decade that needs erased. The 90s produced a metric shit ton of good material too, but the bad is what is focused on. There was no more bad then, than in any other decade percentage wise, but there was a lot more produced in the 90s overall because of the momentum of the speculation wave. That wave led to a lot of drek, but it also provided an environment where there was enough room, money and buyers to produce a lot of the enduring gems of the overall comic oeuvre and get them out there to the audience. The whole Strugeon's law comes into play, 90% of stuff is crap, it's the other 10% that makes it worthwhile. It's true of every decade of comics, but in the 90s the total 100% was huge so the 90% was a huge amount of comics, but then so was the 10%. If people focused on the good instead of wallowing the crap, our perception of the decade might be a lot different. -M Sorry mrp, I think that the 90's had much more crap than any other decade. I dare say that too many comic companies were started up to cash in on the shiny cover craze. I never saw that in any other decade. The '40s, my friend, was just as bad. The sheer volume of fly-by-night publishers hoping to cash in on whatever the craze of the moment was (super-heroes, crime, romance) is astonishing. Many of these small outfits existed primarily to launder money for organized crime, and thus spent as little as possible on creative talent. Even the majors produced tons of drek once you get past their big name characters. Cei-U! I summon the Golden Age crapfest! |
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 26, 2015 11:31:12 GMT -5
Sorry mrp, I think that the 90's had much more crap than any other decade. I dare say that too many comic companies were started up to cash in on the shiny cover craze. I never saw that in any other decade. The '40s, my friend, was just as bad. The sheer volume of fly-by-night publishers hoping to cash in on whatever the craze of the moment was (super-heroes, crime, romance) is astonishing. Many of these small outfits existed primarily to launder money for organized crime, and thus spent as little as possible on creative talent. Even the majors produced tons of drek once you get past their big name characters. Cei-U! I summon the Golden Age crapfest! Here's a charming sample, which is hardly the worst the Golden Age had to offer, I'm sure:   |
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Post by Icctrombone on Nov 26, 2015 11:51:49 GMT -5
The '40s, my friend, was just as bad. The sheer volume of fly-by-night publishers hoping to cash in on whatever the craze of the moment was (super-heroes, crime, romance) is astonishing. Many of these small outfits existed primarily to launder money for organized crime, and thus spent as little as possible on creative talent. Even the majors produced tons of drek once you get past their big name characters. Cei-U! I summon the Golden Age crapfest! Here's a charming sample, which is hardly the worst the Golden Age had to offer, I'm sure: Dude, I want to read that comic!  |
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 26, 2015 13:29:52 GMT -5
Here's a charming sample, which is hardly the worst the Golden Age had to offer, I'm sure: Dude, I want to read that comic! You can, from cover to cover! comicbookplus.com/?dlid=25457 |
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 3, 2016 19:41:31 GMT -5
How do I dislike thee? Let me count the ways.  1) Blackhawk, played by Lyle Waggoner, dances across the snow, daintily keeping his left hand out of danger. (He may have just dropped in, as there are no footprints anywhere.) 2) Olaf blows him a kiss while cranking out armpit farts. 3) A skull in a wreath is apparently driving that jet-bobsled. 4) Somehow the two wolves neither burn their feet nor lose their balance while standing on the cowling of the machine guns. Scratch that: the wolf on the left is somehow suspended above his cowling. Maybe he's using his outside paws to push the sled along. 5) What is meant to be the front runner looks like a horse's hoof turned in, making it even more difficult to figure out what the hell that contraption is. 6) The symbol on the sled stands for Von Gross. You can tell that, right? I see the "V," but the rest of that curlicue might as well be a letter in the Cyrillic alphabet. 7) The cute little smoking jackets. Definitely what mercenaries would wear. BTW, I admire George Evans's art, but this is proof positive that (a) anybody can have a bad day and/or (b) Vinnie Colletta is the worst vandalizer of art since the guy who took a hammer to the Pieta. This is one of the funniest posts I read in 2015. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 1:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by foxley on Feb 3, 2016 1:45:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2016 10:39:39 GMT -5
I just love how they almost completely block the Punisher's face with the logo.  |
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Post by Reptisaurus! on Feb 3, 2016 16:32:33 GMT -5
That seems like a fairly generic post-McFarlane Spider-Man poster cover to me. I'm sure you can find several dozen worse in the bowels of the '90s. |
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