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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 9, 2021 11:31:02 GMT -5
Hi everyone! Recently, on a forum where we are discussing the last episodes of Superman and Lois, someone wondered from when Kryptonians in the Arrowerse can hold their breath indefinitely in space, after they had showed in Supergirl they coundn't do it. That sparked a discussion about the various depictions of Superman needing to breath. We remembered that after the post-Crisis reboot he could hold his breath just for a couple of hours, but now it seems he overcome this limitation. So, from when the current Superman's incarnation can remain indefinitely in space? And what about his other depictions? Like che DCAU version? Someone said that he needed a suit to travel in space. And, by the way, when exactly in the comics they showed that he can fly in space (considering that at the begin he could only leap)? In the Golden age he had any sort of limitation about holding his breath? And the first time he flew to another planet? Not sure of specifics; but, I believe he was flying to other planets by the 50s. Definitely by the start of the 60s, as he travelled in time and was on Krypton, before its destruction, where he meets Lyla Lerrol, in Superman #141 (1960). Superman did use a suit to travel in space in the DCAU and used a rocket ship, much like the one that brought him to Earth. In the Post-Crisis years, when he exiled himself to space, after sleep crime fighting (as Gangbuster), he has to use breathing gear; but, not a pressure suit.
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Post by zaku on Mar 9, 2021 15:41:15 GMT -5
Hi everyone! Recently, on a forum where we are discussing the last episodes of Superman and Lois, someone wondered from when Kryptonians in the Arrowerse can hold their breath indefinitely in space, after they had showed in Supergirl they coundn't do it. That sparked a discussion about the various depictions of Superman needing to breath. We remembered that after the post-Crisis reboot he could hold his breath just for a couple of hours, but now it seems he overcome this limitation. So, from when the current Superman's incarnation can remain indefinitely in space? And what about his other depictions? Like che DCAU version? Someone said that he needed a suit to travel in space. And, by the way, when exactly in the comics they showed that he can fly in space (considering that at the begin he could only leap)? In the Golden age he had any sort of limitation about holding his breath? And the first time he flew to another planet? Not sure of specifics; but, I believe he was flying to other planets by the 50s. Definitely by the start of the 60s, as he travelled in time and was on Krypton, before its destruction, where he meets Lyla Lerrol, in Superman #141 (1960). Superman did use a suit to travel in space in the DCAU and used a rocket ship, much like the one that brought him to Earth. In the Post-Crisis years, when he exiled himself to space, after sleep crime fighting (as Gangbuster), he has to use breathing gear; but, not a pressure suit. After a little googling, he flew to Krypton (in an ethereal form) in Superman #61 (1949) where he learned about his extraterrestrial origin. I can't find any other extraterrestrial travel before that
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Post by MWGallaher on Mar 9, 2021 17:29:03 GMT -5
In ADVENTURE COMICS #420, June 1973, DC published this story as the backup to the Supergirl lead (along with a reprint of the Animal Man origin and another Supergirl story): A few months later, in issue 424, well-known letterhack Richard H. Morrissey asked about the note on the side of that splash: "#1--Purcell". E. Nelson Bridwell answered: " The 'Star Men' story was done a few years ago by Howard Purcell, for a projected title that never materialized. The story remained in inventory until we decided to use it in Adventure." My question: has anybody ever heard of any such planned-but-never-published title from DC in the late 60's/early 70's time frame? My first guess was a revival of MYSTERY IN SPACE, but the note implies that this was for a projected first issue, and DC at the time tended to continue the numbering when the revived cancelled titles. I'm fascinated by comics of that era from DC and Marvel that made it a good ways into production but never made it to the stands, like SEXTET, BLACK BOMBER, MIDAS MOUSE, especially when some of the stories intended for the aborted titles did end up seeing print (like this "Star Men" story or the first issue of DC's original Nazi-focused war comic, PANZER!). I'm aware of several back-ups that eventually saw print, and the material in CANCELLED COMICS CAVALCADE, and the various Marvel black & white magazines like STAR LORD, SHERLOCK HOLMES, and THOR THE MIGHTY that ended up as issues of MARVEL PREVIEW, but I'm sure there some other published samples of comics that never materialized, ones I've forgotten or am unaware of...
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Post by foxley on Mar 16, 2021 3:23:34 GMT -5
The question that dare not be asked... UNTIL NOW!I ask my fellow CCF members to harness their mighty intellects, dig deep into their inexhaustible store of comics knowledge, and finally solve a mystery that has vexed comics fans for since time immemorial. What colour socks would Greyshirt wear? By way of explanation, I am putting together a Greyshirt cosplay and have assembled most of the outfit (I'm still waiting for my grey homburg to arrive), but I wasn't able to find any panels where his socks were visible (although a few issues were not with the rest of my ABC stuff, so I'll need to sort through my accumulation this weekend and see if I can locate them). So even though it really doesn't matter (if nobody knows what colour his socks are, nobody can say I'm wrong), but what colour do people think would go well with Greyshirt's costume?
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Post by EdoBosnar on Mar 16, 2021 5:54:17 GMT -5
Either the same washed-out maroon color of his mask, or the almost babysh*t yellow color of his tie. His underpants are the same color as his socks, by the way (that's canon).
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Post by foxley on Mar 16, 2021 6:06:06 GMT -5
The mask and tie are slightly brighter in the actual stories. The colours are slightly washed out on that cover (presumably an artistic choice on Veitch's part to match the grey stonework), but I picked it because it shows the whole outfit. And of course, like all comic characters, the colours can vary considerably between issues.
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Post by tartanphantom on Mar 16, 2021 6:57:07 GMT -5
The mask and tie are slightly brighter in the actual stories. The colours are slightly washed out on that cover (presumably an artistic choice on Veitch's part to match the grey stonework), but I picked it because it shows the whole outfit. And of course, like all comic characters, the colours can vary considerably between issues. Just go with garnet and mustard in an argyle pattern hosiery and you can't lose!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 16, 2021 8:50:18 GMT -5
I think the answer is clear.. if you never see his socks, then you should never see yours, either, so wear whatever you like!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2021 8:58:55 GMT -5
White ankle socks
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Post by Crimebuster on Mar 16, 2021 9:16:04 GMT -5
"Pantyhose." — Alan Moore
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 16, 2021 9:16:42 GMT -5
What makes you so sure he wears socks?
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Post by brutalis on Mar 16, 2021 9:38:32 GMT -5
Socks? We don't wear no steenking socks!
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 16, 2021 21:47:49 GMT -5
Well, since he is a pastiche of the Spirit, and, as Jules Feiffer noted (in The Great Comic Book Heroes), the Spirit never seems to wear socks; then, no socks at all!
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 16, 2021 21:48:27 GMT -5
"Pantyhose." — Alan Moore I would have thought he would have said, "Tights."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2021 22:09:23 GMT -5
What makes you so sure he wears socks?
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