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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 12:44:52 GMT -5
Just read the last issue of Axis. Mein gott, even by "event" standards that was just appalling.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 12:50:29 GMT -5
Is that baby sucking on a breast? That was allowed to go to print cover? I'm not complaining about the content. I'm just surprised that it was allowed with how the USA is. You are the second person I've seen imply the US would have an issue with this. Why is this? Is there some anti-breastfeeding agenda in the USA that I am unaware of?
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 25, 2014 13:03:31 GMT -5
Just read the last issue of Axis. Mein gott, even by "event" standards that was just appalling. Jawohl, it was a big let-down. And it derailed halfway interesting stories, like whatever was going on in Magneto that I can no longer remember because it's been 3 months or so.
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Post by the4thpip on Dec 25, 2014 13:05:49 GMT -5
Is that baby sucking on a breast? That was allowed to go to print cover? I'm not complaining about the content. I'm just surprised that it was allowed with how the USA is. You are the second person I've seen imply the US would have an issue with this. Why is this? Is there some anti-breastfeeding agenda in the USA that I am unaware of? I think it's more about a woman's breasts... I remember how confused everybody in Germany was about the big hoopla made about Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction. I mean, if you edit out all the scenes with naked boobs from French movies, for example, you'd end up with a Short Film Festival.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Dec 25, 2014 13:15:09 GMT -5
Is that baby sucking on a breast? That was allowed to go to print cover? I'm not complaining about the content. I'm just surprised that it was allowed with how the USA is. You are the second person I've seen imply the US would have an issue with this. Why is this? Is there some anti-breastfeeding agenda in the USA that I am unaware of? Do you live in America?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 14:25:40 GMT -5
Is that baby sucking on a breast? That was allowed to go to print cover? I'm not complaining about the content. I'm just surprised that it was allowed with how the USA is. You are the second person I've seen imply the US would have an issue with this. Why is this? Is there some anti-breastfeeding agenda in the USA that I am unaware of? It's more of an anti-nudity thing. American culture is still very puritanical at base, and all nudity is considered sexual by a lot of folk, and therefore not acceptable. And those folk tend to be loud about it. There's a good chance anybody breastfeeding in public will run into complaints from some blue-nose determined to protect everybody else from maybe catching a glimpse of a breast being used for its main purpose.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 25, 2014 15:41:43 GMT -5
Ah... America. Where we think we're so advanced and yet we're still as prudish as the Puritans that plundered, er...settled this land.
If nudity doesn't offend you, give Sunstone vol 1 a shot... Lots of BDSM and nudity. A good Christmas treat.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2014 17:52:39 GMT -5
You are the second person I've seen imply the US would have an issue with this. Why is this? Is there some anti-breastfeeding agenda in the USA that I am unaware of? It's more of an anti-nudity thing. American culture is still very puritanical at base, and all nudity is considered sexual by a lot of folk, and therefore not acceptable. And those folk tend to be loud about it. There's a good chance anybody breastfeeding in public will run into complaints from some blue-nose determined to protect everybody else from maybe catching a glimpse of a breast being used for its main purpose. I guess I wouldn't know. I didn't get to breast feed long enough to be out in public doing it, but all I ever read and hear about are people being pro-breast feeding here. Every woman I know does it. However, having said that, my niece breast feeds her daughter, but she is super private about it. She tells me how she doesn't feel it necessary to feed her in public. She'll just give her a bottle. She goes into a separate room to feed her. I don't bother with telling her she shouldn't worry about those things because, for whatever reason, she does, so I respect her decision and do not question her.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 26, 2014 23:31:09 GMT -5
So... Dum-Dum Dugan was never Dum-Dum Dugan since the 60s, but an advanced LMD. The real one, the one who fought WWII, has been dead since then. Yeah, that makes the character so much more interesting. (Maybe an academic point, since Marvel decided to kill him. Again). Is there no one at Marvel to say, once in a while, "man, this is a terrible idea"? Actually, that makes more sense than usual. Marvel was totally LMD crazy in the late 60s, and there's no reason for Dum Dum, who is pretty much just a regular guy, to be alive and SHIELD agent-ing, instead of either dead of 90 years old.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 26, 2014 23:33:10 GMT -5
Is that baby sucking on a breast? That was allowed to go to print cover? I'm not complaining about the content. I'm just surprised that it was allowed with how the USA is. You are the second person I've seen imply the US would have an issue with this. Why is this? Is there some anti-breastfeeding agenda in the USA that I am unaware of? I think it's more due to the previous issues... Saga got pulled from itunes (perhaps 2 or 3 times) on content (once was for a very tiny male organ in the background, the other was similar), and the cover design is a clear f-u to those people who thought such things are inappropriate.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 27, 2014 9:17:04 GMT -5
It's more of an anti-nudity thing. American culture is still very puritanical at base, and all nudity is considered sexual by a lot of folk, and therefore not acceptable. And those folk tend to be loud about it. There's a good chance anybody breastfeeding in public will run into complaints from some blue-nose determined to protect everybody else from maybe catching a glimpse of a breast being used for its main purpose. And yet, the U.S. has the world's biggest and most successful porn industry. You American's are just plain weird.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 9:27:51 GMT -5
It's more of an anti-nudity thing. American culture is still very puritanical at base, and all nudity is considered sexual by a lot of folk, and therefore not acceptable. And those folk tend to be loud about it. There's a good chance anybody breastfeeding in public will run into complaints from some blue-nose determined to protect everybody else from maybe catching a glimpse of a breast being used for its main purpose. And yet, the U.S. has the world's biggest and most successful porn industry. You American's are just plain weird. I'm not weird. But maybe the big, "successful" porn industry comes from the fact that we ARE so heavily censored compared to other countries? I mean, duh.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 27, 2014 10:13:48 GMT -5
So... Dum-Dum Dugan was never Dum-Dum Dugan since the 60s, but an advanced LMD. The real one, the one who fought WWII, has been dead since then. Yeah, that makes the character so much more interesting. (Maybe an academic point, since Marvel decided to kill him. Again). Is there no one at Marvel to say, once in a while, "man, this is a terrible idea"? Actually, that makes more sense than usual. Marvel was totally LMD crazy in the late 60s, and there's no reason for Dum Dum, who is pretty much just a regular guy, to be alive and SHIELD agent-ing, instead of either dead of 90 years old. I just dislike this kind of retcon. The people who wrote Dum-Dum over the years did not mean him to be an LMD. He was a real guy, feeling his age, retiring a few times. I'd have much preferred his strange longevity to be explained away by a less intrusive retcon, as Fury's was eventually. This way of changing history for the sake of a forgettable event ("original sin"? who's gonna remember that in two years?) just damages the pseudo-history of the Marvel Universe. It hurts our willing suspension of disbelief, it hurts our interest in finding out what has gone on before... because if anything goes, the answer to that is pretty much "whatever". If Fury had to have an original sin, I would have been far more moved by something like "I sacrificed an agent to what I believed was the greater good only to find out it was for nothing" than "I had a robot built that thought he was my best friend". It's somehow more relatable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 11:07:00 GMT -5
And yet, the U.S. has the world's biggest and most successful porn industry. You American's are just plain weird. I'm not weird. But maybe the big, "successful" porn industry comes from the fact that we ARE so heavily censored compared to other countries? I mean, duh. Exactly. The more you suppress something and try to keep it out of your mainstream culture, the more it's going to pop up in the sub-culture. And I am weird, and proud of it, thank you very much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 12:21:51 GMT -5
I'm not weird. But maybe the big, "successful" porn industry comes from the fact that we ARE so heavily censored compared to other countries? I mean, duh. Exactly. The more you suppress something and try to keep it out of your mainstream culture, the more it's going to pop up in the sub-culture. And I am weird, and proud of it, thank you very much. I just dislike all Americans lumped into one category and judged. No one else likes it, so I'm not sure why it's okay to do to Americans. Shouldn't bother me, I know, but sometimes it manages to get under my skin, and I've been reading more jokes than I'd like about Americans on forums lately. Not all of us are stupid and lazy, and I've seen that implied a few times lately (not here as much, but other places). And we're not all afraid/ashamed of boobs.
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