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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 19, 2015 9:55:18 GMT -5
Some people have too much time on their hands. I noticed that. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 19, 2015 10:33:50 GMT -5
As a man, I'm absolutely fine with this.
I think that, on average, men threatening women with physical violence should be viewed much more harshly than a woman threatening me. Wow. I don't even know what to say to that. Not all men are larger and stronger than all women. The ol' pay gap myth. I've worked jobs where I got paid less than women who had less responsibility, work and experience. Explain that. It's not a day to day concern of most women, either. If it is, they have issues they need to sort through. How is ear-piercing a ritual? Some girls get it because they want it, some don't. At least they don't have their genitals mutilated at birth. Still waiting for my financial reward. You simply can't compare "all men" to "all women". Everyone has a different life shaped by infinite influences random and otherwise. Life is extremely difficult for some men, very easy for some women. That's the problem with these dogmatic movements: they don't see anyone as an individual. Garbage anecdotal evidence is even more useless than poorly parsed statistical evidence. The latter is at least useful if you actually look at it correctly. |
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Post by badwolf on Mar 19, 2015 10:34:50 GMT -5
Garbage anecdotal evidence is even more useless than poorly parsed statistical evidence. The latter is at least useful if you actually look at it correctly. Where are you finding anecdotes? |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Mar 19, 2015 10:39:00 GMT -5
And it's not nearly the same in tone. She's not shown cowed and crying and totally submissive. She looks scared, but she's fighting back. And Suicide Squad was not rebranded as "fun & lighthearted". I don't see her fighting back at all. And the gun is actually pointed at her! You are splitting hairs. The two covers are close enough to be effectively identical. If you believe the covers are "effectively identical", then we clearly have no frame of reference in which to continue the conversation. It's like saying Jupiter has been declared to be effectively identical to Earth because they're both round planets in the cosmic vicinity of each other. |
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 19, 2015 10:42:50 GMT -5
Garbage anecdotal evidence is even more useless than poorly parsed statistical evidence. The latter is at least useful if you actually look at it correctly. Where are you finding anecdotes? From you. |
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Post by badwolf on Mar 19, 2015 10:43:28 GMT -5
I don't see her fighting back at all. And the gun is actually pointed at her! You are splitting hairs. The two covers are close enough to be effectively identical. If you believe the covers are "effectively identical", then we clearly have no frame of reference in which to continue the conversation. It's like saying Jupiter has been declared to be effectively identical to Earth because they're both round planets in the cosmic vicinity of each other. The only difference between the covers is that in 1990 we didn't have keyboard warriors trolling the internet in search of things to be outraged by. |
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Post by badwolf on Mar 19, 2015 10:44:54 GMT -5
Where are you finding anecdotes? From you. Well, you don't have to believe me, nevertheless it is true. Nice job of ignoring everything else, btw. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 19, 2015 10:47:47 GMT -5
The only difference between the covers is that in 1990 we didn't have keyboard warriors trolling the internet in search of things to be outraged by. My irony-meter just exploded. Anybody know the name of a good repairman? |
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Post by badwolf on Mar 19, 2015 10:49:47 GMT -5
The only difference between the covers is that in 1990 we didn't have keyboard warriors trolling the internet in search of things to be outraged by. My irony-meter just exploded. Anybody know the name of a good repairman? Like most people, you are misusing the word "irony." |
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 19, 2015 11:01:36 GMT -5
My irony-meter just exploded. Anybody know the name of a good repairman? Like most people, you are misusing the word "irony." Am I? Let me explain. You are clearly outraged and you are clearly a keyboard warrior valiantly speaking up for your cause. Yet you are attacking the exact same attributes in your opponents.
Maybe it's not ironic but it's certainly hypocritical.
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Post by badwolf on Mar 19, 2015 11:09:27 GMT -5
Like most people, you are misusing the word "irony." Am I? Let me explain. You are clearly outraged and you are clearly a keyboard warrior valiantly speaking up for your cause. Yet you are attacking the exact same attributes in your opponents.
Maybe it's not ironic but it's certainly hypocritical.
It's somewhat flattering that you see me as a valiant warrior but I am merely having a discussion about a topic I did not seek out, but which appeared on a forum I regularly frequent. "Outrage" is a bit strong, but is it wrong to be outraged by censorship, bullying, and a growing trend of submission to an irrational but loud minority? If so, then I don't want to be right. |
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Post by Hoosier X on Mar 19, 2015 11:21:53 GMT -5
Am I? Let me explain. You are clearly outraged and you are clearly a keyboard warrior valiantly speaking up for your cause. Yet you are attacking the exact same attributes in your opponents.
Maybe it's not ironic but it's certainly hypocritical.
It's somewhat flattering that you see me as a valiant warrior but I am merely having a discussion about a topic I did not seek out, but which appeared on a forum I regularly frequent. "Outrage" is a bit strong, but is it wrong to be outraged by censorship, bullying, and a growing trend of submission to an irrational but loud minority? If so, then I don't want to be right. When it's the wimmens, it's outrage, but when it's you, it's a righteous crusade against the hysterical oppression of wimmenism.
Fight on, brave little toaster!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 19, 2015 11:26:05 GMT -5
Well, you don't have to believe me, nevertheless it is true. Nice job of ignoring everything else, btw. It's not a matter of not believing you. It's a matter of that being completely irrelevant. A single anecdotal experience is completely irrelevant when you're considering a systemic matter at a macro level. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Mar 19, 2015 11:29:32 GMT -5
Am I? Let me explain. You are clearly outraged and you are clearly a keyboard warrior valiantly speaking up for your cause. Yet you are attacking the exact same attributes in your opponents.
Maybe it's not ironic but it's certainly hypocritical.
It's somewhat flattering that you see me as a valiant warrior but I am merely having a discussion about a topic I did not seek out, but which appeared on a forum I regularly frequent. "Outrage" is a bit strong, but is it wrong to be outraged by censorship, bullying, and a growing trend of submission to an irrational but loud minority? If so, then I don't want to be right. Hate to break it to you, but in this case, you're the loud minority. You're not speaking on behalf of all men, just a small like-minded group. |
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Post by badwolf on Mar 19, 2015 11:31:00 GMT -5
Well, you don't have to believe me, nevertheless it is true. Nice job of ignoring everything else, btw. It's not a matter of not believing you. It's a matter of that being completely irrelevant. A single anecdotal experience is completely irrelevant when you're considering a systemic matter at a macro level. That wage gap myth has been debunked over and over. You should Google it. |
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