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Post by starscape on Dec 22, 2014 7:59:06 GMT -5
It's not so much the prevalence of blonde hair but the same blonde hair (and face). Everyone had that side parting and same length. Why not long, swept back, crew cut, flat-top etc etc etc. to distinguish the young Johnny Storm and the mature Don Blake? The Avenger Captain America from the Avenger Clint Barton? Something that used to annoy me was the isolation of titles. For instance, when the FF take on Galactus, why didn't they phone up the Avengers? (actually, I did a piece of FanFic about that: What if the Fantastic Four hadn't stopped Galactus?). Mind you, now that all the titles are connected, I'm now glad that didn't happen! |
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 22, 2014 8:22:53 GMT -5
It's not so much the prevalence of blonde hair but the same blonde hair (and face). Everyone had that side parting and same length. Why not long, swept back, crew cut, flat-top etc etc etc. to distinguish the young Johnny Storm and the mature Don Blake? The Avenger Captain America from the Avenger Clint Barton? Something that used to annoy me was the isolation of titles. For instance, when the FF take on Galactus, why didn't they phone up the Avengers? (actually, I did a piece of FanFic about that: What if the Fantastic Four hadn't stopped Galactus?). Mind you, now that all the titles are connected, I'm now glad that didn't happen! Actually, I think they did that FAR more often back in the day... I remember LOTS of Avengers issues where they'd call the FF, and either the secretary would answer, or Reed would come on and say they were very busy, but good luck! I agree about the hair thing, especially Cap vs. Hawkeye... Cap could easily have a crew cut (probably should have, in fact). Of course the other extreme is Manga, where everyone has ridiculous impractical hair just to keep the characters easy to tell apart. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Dec 22, 2014 12:15:24 GMT -5
Johnny Storm, Hank Pym, Clint Barton, Don Blake, Steve Rogers. They all looked exactly the same! Also, Atlantis. How come everyone is walking about rather than swimming? All the buildings etc, are all basically for living in the surface. For instance, if the Lady Dorma is knocked unconscious for some reason, what would they do? Put her in bed. The covers would be absolutely soaking! They're living at the bottom of the sea anyway. Being cold isn't an issue. And while we're at it...Earth and America. Now I know these are necessary in a business but I always found it difficult to accept that, for instance, when there was only one all-powerful Green Lantern ring (under Kyle Rayner), it would somehow go to an American on Earth. Or that the Kree/Skrulls/Galactus could destroy planets with little thought but not little Earth. As I say, I know why but still... And Bucky. Captain America and his indestructible shield against the Nazis. Young teenage Bucky with nothin'. Little bit unfair of ol'Winghead there. Cannon fodder Barnes is what he should be called. Excellent points all the way around. Especially the Atlantis thing. I'm surprised that never occurred to me. I think I even remember scenes in various underwater Atlantis buildings that had stairs. Why in the world would people at the bottom of the ocean have stairs? They could just swim up or down to the next level. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Dec 22, 2014 13:24:20 GMT -5
Lots of Rick Jones vitriol here but I've got to weigh in with my disdain over the concept of Robin, The Boy Wonder. What sort of grown man would take a pre-pubescent boy, dress him up in shorty pants, and thrust him into the night amidst killers, thieves and psychotic lunatics. The Batman stories from the 40s and 50s were psycho-sexually weird since Bruce Wayne had a reputation as a millionaire playboy but exhibited a fear of close contact with women. Robin would feel rejected at the mere thought of Bruce with another female. And way too many scenes of Bruce and Dick sleeping in the same bed. Vicki Vale, Catwoman, Kathy Kane and others never had a chance with Bruce and his obsession with his little boy assistant
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Post by The Captain on Dec 22, 2014 14:27:40 GMT -5
Johnny Storm, Hank Pym, Clint Barton, Don Blake, Steve Rogers. They all looked exactly the same! Also, Atlantis. How come everyone is walking about rather than swimming? All the buildings etc, are all basically for living in the surface. For instance, if the Lady Dorma is knocked unconscious for some reason, what would they do? Put her in bed. The covers would be absolutely soaking! They're living at the bottom of the sea anyway. Being cold isn't an issue. And while we're at it...Earth and America. Now I know these are necessary in a business but I always found it difficult to accept that, for instance, when there was only one all-powerful Green Lantern ring (under Kyle Rayner), it would somehow go to an American on Earth. Or that the Kree/Skrulls/Galactus could destroy planets with little thought but not little Earth. As I say, I know why but still... And Bucky. Captain America and his indestructible shield against the Nazis. Young teenage Bucky with nothin'. Little bit unfair of ol'Winghead there. Cannon fodder Barnes is what he should be called. Excellent points all the way around. Especially the Atlantis thing. I'm surprised that never occurred to me. I think I even remember scenes in various underwater Atlantis buildings that had stairs. Why in the world would people at the bottom of the ocean have stairs? They could just swim up or down to the next level. Well, if Atlantis supposedly sank to the bottom of the ocean from the surface world, then stairs, windows, and other items associated with the surface world make sense, but only on original construction. Anything newly built having those items would just be weird. |
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Post by DE Sinclair on Dec 22, 2014 14:40:34 GMT -5
Excellent points all the way around. Especially the Atlantis thing. I'm surprised that never occurred to me. I think I even remember scenes in various underwater Atlantis buildings that had stairs. Why in the world would people at the bottom of the ocean have stairs? They could just swim up or down to the next level. Well, if Atlantis supposedly sank to the bottom of the ocean from the surface world, then stairs, windows, and other items associated with the surface world make sense, but only on original construction. Anything newly built having those items would just be weird. Exactly right. And if they were original, they'd be, what, 7000+ years old? How likely would they be to be living in something that old? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 15:04:01 GMT -5
It's not so much the prevalence of blonde hair but the same blonde hair (and face). Everyone had that side parting and same length. Why not long, swept back, crew cut, flat-top etc etc etc. to distinguish the young Johnny Storm and the mature Don Blake? The Avenger Captain America from the Avenger Clint Barton? Because thirty day deadlines. Same reason everything is skin tight, even combat boots. Combat boots so tight I can see every bone, muscle, and vein in your ankles. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 15:05:44 GMT -5
Actually, I think they did that FAR more often back in the day... I remember LOTS of Avengers issues where they'd call the FF, and either the secretary would answer, or Reed would come on and say they were very busy, but good luck! That actually seems like a kind of cool way to connect the universe without tangling plots and appearances and continuity. |
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Post by starscape on Dec 22, 2014 16:10:45 GMT -5
It's not so much the prevalence of blonde hair but the same blonde hair (and face). Everyone had that side parting and same length. Why not long, swept back, crew cut, flat-top etc etc etc. to distinguish the young Johnny Storm and the mature Don Blake? The Avenger Captain America from the Avenger Clint Barton? Because thirty day deadlines. Same reason everything is skin tight, even combat boots. Combat boots so tight I can see every bone, muscle, and vein in your ankles. Not sure why a crew cut would take anymore time than a side parting. In fact, I'd have thought it was easier to draw. |
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Post by foxley on Dec 22, 2014 16:15:35 GMT -5
Why is that any time a psychic does a scan of the surface thoughts of a crowd in the Marvel Universe, a good half of the people are thinking about how much they hate mutants? Instead of say "That girl is really hot" or "Do I need to buy milk?" or What was the name of that show about the two outlaws would earn a pardon if they stayed out of trouble for a year?" or having the tune of 'Walk Like an Egyptian' stuck in their head? Is anti-mutant hysteria really at the forefront of the mind of most civilians in the MU?
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Post by DE Sinclair on Dec 22, 2014 16:44:18 GMT -5
Why is that any time a psychic does a scan of the surface thoughts of a crowd in the Marvel Universe, a good half of the people are thinking about how much they hate mutants? Instead of say "That girl is really hot" or "Do I need to buy milk?" or What was the name of that show about the two outlaws would earn a pardon if they stayed out of trouble for a year?" or having the tune of 'Walk Like an Egyptian' stuck in their head? Is anti-mutant hysteria really at the forefront of the mind of most civilians in the MU? You realize of course now I'll have "Walk Like an Egyptian" stuck in my head for the rest of the afternoon. Thanks. Now I'm wondering what Egyptians think about the song "Walk Like an Egyptian"? Or do they just call it "Walk Like Me"? If this keeps up I'll have no time to dwell on my anti-mutant hysteria.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 17:53:53 GMT -5
It's not so much the prevalence of blonde hair but the same blonde hair (and face). Everyone had that side parting and same length. Why not long, swept back, crew cut, flat-top etc etc etc. to distinguish the young Johnny Storm and the mature Don Blake? The Avenger Captain America from the Avenger Clint Barton? Conversely, at least in those days you could tell who Peter Parker was - he had a distinct facial structure and haircut which were kept fairly similar through Ditko, Romita Sr, Kane et al. Nowadays, the only way I can tell who he is, is from context - he's just a random youngish face with varying haircuts - drawn completely differently by different artists. |
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Post by crazyoldhermit on Dec 22, 2014 19:27:22 GMT -5
Because thirty day deadlines. Same reason everything is skin tight, even combat boots. Combat boots so tight I can see every bone, muscle, and vein in your ankles. Not sure why a crew cut would take anymore time than a side parting. In fact, I'd have thought it was easier to draw. Look at this picture and tell me what you notice about the hair:  Remember, these comics were drawn by middle-aged men in the early 60s. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 23:46:34 GMT -5
One thing that really drives me nuts is the 80s and onward is the idea that being a ninja automatically gives you a win. Doesn't matter if you've been a wrestler, boxer or street fighter for 20 years and have tons of experience. One month of NINJA training somehow trumps that.
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Post by Randle-El on Dec 23, 2014 0:05:19 GMT -5
One thing that really drives me nuts is the 80s and onward is the idea that being a ninja automatically gives you a win. Doesn't matter if you've been a wrestler, boxer or street fighter for 20 years and have tons of experience. One month of NINJA training somehow trumps that. I don't see the problem here. I mean, it would be one thing if people were saying this about pirates... but it's ninjas, man. NINJAS! |
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