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Post by tolworthy on Jun 18, 2014 20:06:51 GMT -5
1. Judge Dredd in the Daily Star by Wagner and Ron Smith. So much goodness in so little space, by the best Dredd writer and the best Dredd artist IMO. Calvin and Nemo have enough votes already, so honourable mentions to... 2. Mary Tourtel's Rupert Bear. I love how he would simply stand and watch most of the time - I took that as a sign of great wisdom and intelligence. But the later Rupert was more active, and I saw that as a sign of a narrowed vision: he was just an annoying kid, whereas I could infer great depths to Tourtel's version. 3. Fudge the Elf by Ken Reid. Like most of Reid's stuff it was deceptively brilliant: for example his occasional dinosaurs were beautifully rendered. I wish somebody would publish a "best of" for Ken Reid. He has more forgotten classics than any artist I know. I suppose it's a matter of taste, but I consider his Jonah at its best to be the greatest single comics pages ever, and his Deed a Day Danny at its best was sublime perfection. 4. Early Perishers. They got repetitive later (Most strips do), but it was a thing of beauty. I particularly love how well their town was crafted. As a teenager I created a map of their town based on the strips' art, and the writer liked it so much he sent me a signed original! 5. Bristow by Frank Dickens. Not always the funniest, and it definitely lost steam, but such gentle pleasure when I was young. Included for nostalgia reasons: it was the Dilbert of its day (and ran for 41 years)
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 16, 2014 23:32:20 GMT -5
Back on the Reed and Sue fiancée question, I knew I read it somewhere: the penultimate frame in FF 27 clarifies it. Sue loves Reed, but he's such a "blind fool" it's really hard to get through to him, so eh can't accept it. This explains why Namor was so attractive: such a breath of fresh air! Sue's temporary shakiness with Namor only lasted a few weeks: basically just issue 6. In issue 14 and annual 1 (very close together) she doesn't want to talk about it, but by the time of issue 27 any doubts are ancient history. Sue is sticking with her original choice.
Sue's interest in Namor is like Johnny horsing around with Ben: they were very brief periods in Stan and Jack's run. But most modern writers don't read more than the first couple of yeears so they think it's their defining characteristics.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 16, 2014 20:52:45 GMT -5
As a young child I think every book was speculative: I assumed they would all be worth more and more as time went by. I assumed that they would be collected, reprinted, or whatever, and my original copies would one day be sold on at a profit. For example, I loved the Badtime Bedtime books (pull-out 8 page mini comics) and could see that they were the perfect size for reprinting in a paperback, or just putting all of them in one comic. So I vaguely assumed that one day I would have that better version and would then get rid of my original copies. But I did this based purely on the love of reading: I did not care for the condition of a comic, and assumed that other people were the same. Indeed, signs of being loved made them more valuable to me if anything (rolled up, dog-eared, even the occasional pen mark or cut out coupon, as long as an ad was on the other side). Like many kids, I tried gluing, hole punching, etc., to make comics easier to read: I thought I was doing future generations a favour. I knew that old stuff tends to be more expensive, so vaguely thought I would make a profit, or at least it would subsidise later purchases. As far as speculating, I suppose that's what I was doing when I bought comics in large quantities at jumble sales: I knew it was unlikely I would ever get the time to read every page, but I also knew I would then be free to find strips I liked later and if needed sell the rest. Of course, I ended up with piles of comics that nobody else wanted, and the few exceptions had little value to any dealers. It seems I misjudged the speculator market completely.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 15, 2014 1:50:55 GMT -5
To be fair to Slam, Sue calls herself Reed's fiancee in issue 1, on the way to the spaceport. As far as Sue was concerned they were engaged, but Reed didn't get round to setting a date until issue 35, as Cei-U said. Probably Reed's dithering is part of what made Namor so attractive.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 14, 2014 15:46:44 GMT -5
Godaddy is selling domain names right now for .99 for the 1st year, if that helps Godaddy is certainly easy, but I'd avoid them if possible. Maybe they've changed, but the stories I heard were that once they have your domain it's not easy to get it back. In theory, yes, in practice, not so much. Plus they were famous for domain parking (where if you search for a domain using their site they reserve it themselves so you cannot get it unless you go to them), and other crimes. More ethical hosts don't do that. If you already have webspace then a .com is only about ten dollars a year, and other URLs (e.g. .co.uk) are much less. I use Dreamhost and it's really easy to add another domain to my space.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 14, 2014 1:27:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the Ploog plug. For humour fans, Archie has 1,000 page digests at about $10-$15 per copy, or about a cent per page. That's amazing! Thanks! I like to think that making Archie affordable (and accessible) is a big part of why he's survived so long. I wish all comics were like that.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 13, 2014 14:06:24 GMT -5
Thanks - that's my kind of price! I have a birthday coming up and very cash strapped relatives and suddenly realised that nothing I wanted was cheap.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 13, 2014 9:49:04 GMT -5
This is a thread for classic collections that are either cheap to try - e.g. £5 or less, or havea very low cost per page, such as the Essentials and Showcase collections. Here's one I just found that would tempt me if I had an iPad: Thunderbirds by Frank Bellamy, 30 pages per volume, £1.99 each. I don't know the quality of the scans, and it's only digital, but that was beautiful work and the price is great. classiccomics.egmont.co.uk/shop-thunderbirds/Any more?
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 12, 2014 5:15:01 GMT -5
Something I never got is how Gladys Knight joined the Mormon church a few years ago. She seems more enlightened than that, and blacks and women aren't exactly treated fairly throughout the history of the cult. And she remains gay friendly. The day after the Mormon Church helped pass Proposition 8, she rushed to have her picture taken hugging Elton John and his husband. She supported Obama over Romney, too, stating that while she felt the "church is perfect" some of the people in it are not (ouch!). It's basically PR plus Game of Thrones. Anyone interested in PR should look behind the curtain at Mormonism. it's fascinating. Warning: another long post! I find it fascinating how wealthy organisations control their image. Back in the 1990s Gordon B Hinckley was church president, and he'd spent his whole life in the PR arm of the church. He went on a media blitz, giving high profile interviews where he denied old doctrines (his famous quote was "I don't know that we teach that"). Behind the scenes lots of very smart and very well paid people worked to mainstream the church. Gladys Knight was their biggest coup. I don't know the exact details of how they wooed Knight, but I do remember when there was the rumour that an actual non-Mormon archaeologist was possibly interested in the church (for social reasons). Mormon archaeology is embarrassing, but people join a religion for many different reasons. Behind the scenes all the most senior academics were desperate to get this person. The church is basically a gigantic sales organisation: every young man is expected to spend two years as a full time unpaid salesman (i.e. serve a mission) and that sets the tone for life. Selling the church is what they do: it is their life. It is why the church has continued to grow (at least until the Internet age) despite toxic beliefs and toxic history (polygamy, racism, at last one massacre, being on the wrong side of every social advance, etc). The Mormon sales machine is a wonder to behold. I am reminded of Sideshow Bob in the Simpsons: he has "die Bart, die" tattooed on his chest, but was able to convince a jury that he was a really nice person and "die bart, die" was an innocent German phrase, "the Bart, the". Or perhaps a better real world example is Julie Andrews , star of Mary Poppins. Disney recently produced its whitewashed "saving Mr Banks", a PR piece to show that Disney was a very nice man and P L Travers ended up loving the movie. Yet as far as I can tell, Travers simply needed the money and wen to her grave hating what the company did to her book. Never mind, the Disney version is the one that sticks. I heard a recent interview where Andrews praised the movie, saying it was really interesting and she didn't know that - she completely bought the revised story. Now surely she of all people should know, right? Not really. She was young, and busy and was hired for her acting and her voice, not her investigatory journalism. Like Andrews, Knight is getting older and wants a happy life. Whereas she obviously experienced racism when younger she obviously never had bad experiences with Mormons, and now that she is old these really nice people treat her like royalty and say all these nice things: why not believe them? The easiest part for the church is controlling information inside the church: the vast majority of Mormons are now either unaware of past racism or are convinced it was a minor technical thing and the church was always progressive. Meanwhile, every Mormon is schooled in being friendly. So that is the image people see when they meet Mormons. And while it is easy to be cynical, a church full of millions of nice people is not necessarily a bad thing. As for controlling information to outsiders, that starts with controlling inside information. If you know a few Mormons and they are all nice people, and none of them believes those bad things, it is easy to believe that the church is misunderstood. Add to that a lot of money spent on PR: at the same time they are funding anti-gay campaigns they spend millions on the "I am a Mormon" advertising campaigns showing gays and feminists in the church. (Due to a recent change it is now technically possible to be gay in the church as long as you don't talk about it or actually have sexual relations.) Finally you have an army of Internet savvy members ready to edit every Wikipedia article and reply to every online post. Try saying anything bad about the church and a dozen genuinely nice people will appear to say it is not like that and would you like some cookies? As for Search Engine Optimisation, Mormons pretty much wrote the book. Regarding SEO it took them while to get it right, but the church has pretty much unlimited funds an a very tech savvy and obedient membership: it is no coincidence that the NSA data centers are often located in Utah. Another interesting angle is the personality battles at the top of Mormonism. This is politics at its finest: on the surface the Mormon leadership is in complete unity, and the way they are chosen ensures there is deference behind closed doors as well. Any Mormon with business skills is tracked since about the age of 30, using software specially designed for the purpose. They are then watched carefully as they rise through the ranks, and only the safest of safe hands ever gets to the top of the greasy pole. But if you watch carefully even then there are basically four groups in gentle competition: 1. The guy at the top is nearly always a schmoozer. He genuinely believes the church is all sweetness and light, he is personable, kind, and very likeable. He and people like him will "love bomb" any celebrity who might be susceptible for whatever reason. The current president, Thomas S.Monson, was famous for never saying anything except folksy stories and never doing anything except smiling. You can be sure that Gladys Knight will consider him a personal friend: she will "know" that all the bad stories are unfair because she has heard what the church "really" believes it from the horse's mouth. 2.Then we have the new generation of media savvy folk. The king of these is Dieter Uchdorff, the darling of the younger generation. He is a handsome ex airline pilot, an urbane ans silver tongued German (so the church can say "see, we're not all from Utah!") who speaks about inclusivity and understanding. Everyone calls him the silver fox. 3. Then we have the old guard of hard liners, led by Boyd K Packer. He will be the one behind the anti-gay crusade, and will resist any change. Gradually the church is becoming more and more corporate, so new leaders are chosen purely for their management skills and these doctrinaire types are slowly dying off, but it might take another 30 years. Because... 4. With the rise of the Internet the real power is now with the faceless bureaucrats in the Church Office Building (COB), endlessly crunching numbers and issuing carefully worded press releases. The official leaders (there are 15: a presidency of 3 plus 12 apostles) are all in their eighties or older, and do not understand the Internet. But they are gradually learning that the less they say the better. So General Conference is now a series of speeches on "be nice to people" while official spokesmen tackle all the sensitive stuff. The young suits in the COB have to say "yes" to everything the 15 say, but when you have a thousand young and very smart people running a multi billion dollar organisation for 15 elderly men who are somewhat out of touch, they find ways. The suits in the COB know that the church pulls in 8 billion dollars a year and they plan 50 years ahead. they know that the number one risk to that income is bad publicity. When word got around that an actual genuine black female celebrity was friends with somebody high up in the church you canimagine the buzz. How would they gently pull her in? Get the best leaders involved! Gently does it! A Meal? A visit? A gift? Are we pushing too hard? How can we insulate her from XYZ? Think of manipulating Truman in The Truman Show and you'll have the idea. I was once a missionary. Missionaries spend hours planning every contact with potential converts, anticipating every problem, sweating over every tiny "accidental" contact. Working with Knight would have been that on steroids. Not necessarily cynically, perhaps not even consciously - Mormons are conditioned to try to convert others without even thinking. But make no mistake, she would be the top priority for a lot of very experienced people. Gently, gently does it. Boy, what a catch! Sorry, I am rambling now. Maybe I should stick to comics.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 11, 2014 18:15:59 GMT -5
I'm still shocked that the guy who understood empathy enough to write Ender's Game is even capable of having these views. The entire point of the book is understanding and empathizing with something not like you and overcoming the natural urge to try to destroy it. How someone can have these ideas and be a bigot is just baffling. As an ex-Mormon I may have some insights into that. Warning: if any Mormons are reading please tell me if I go too far, and I will edit this to be more gentle. If the mods think this is too much for a comics board feel free to delete this post, I won't be offended. I tend to take things seriously and write a lot, which does not always fit the tone of the board. OK, short answer: Orson Card is a devout Mormon, and the church has become more hard line during his lifetime. Long answer: The Mormon church is all-encompassing: it provides your entire social life, world view, your closest relationships, etc. So devout Mormons toe the Mormon line. (Here I use "Mormon" as shorthand for the Utah church: I actually self identify as a cultural Mormon, but not a Utah Mormon - that's a whole other topic). Card published Enders Game in 1985, and it was a different world. Since then the church has changed and Card changed with it. While nobody could ever call Mormonism liberal, it was once more relaxed than it is today. Mormons once believed that science would prove them right, so they were open to new ideas. While there were plenty of extreme right wing Mormonsthere were also liberal Mormons: it was a broad church. Two things happened around 1970 that changed that. First, two men with rigid views gained power: the young-earther Joseph Fielding Smith became church president, and the powerful speaker and bold writer Bruce R. McConkie gained great influence. They opposed liberal views. Second, in 1969 (IIRC) the original documents to the Book of Abraham (a Mormon scripture) were discovered, and it was realised that the Mormon scripture was not what it claimed. For the first time there was a very clear and obvious example of science not supporting the church. the leaders became intellectually defensive. A church that had once encouraged (or at least allowed) speculative views now opposed them. A program called "correlation" gained increasing power, centralising authority to the fifteen men at the top and removing all altenative discourse. When I was a child at church in the early 1970s we sang about snowmen and played games. But my own children in the 1990s had to sit quietly and sing a monotonous dirge called "follow the prophet, follow the prophet, follow the prophet, he knows the way" What has 1970 to do with 1985? You have to remember that the Mormon church is like a supertanker: it cannot turn quickly. Every member is taught that he church never changes, so when it does change (and it changes constantly) it is through subtle changes in emphasis. It takes a generation for change to bed in. The leaders in the 1970s and 1980s learned their doctrine in the 1960s, when science was your friend, and it was OK to think differently. The leaders in the 1990s and later were raised in an ear when science was the enemy and obedience is the "first law of heaven". By 1993 Boyd K Packer (a prominent leader in the church) could openly declare that intellectuals were enemies of the church. That same year six prominent intellectuals were excommunicated. So when Orson Card wrote Enders Game in the early 1980s it was still OK to be open minded. But by the 1990s he had to decide: support the church leaders and become more hard line, or leave the church, or somehow compromise. Compromise is very hard in the modern Mormon church. Even today (11th June 2014) it was announced that two intellectuals who tried to reform the church are likely to be excommunicated. John Dehlin campaigned for gays in the church to receive more understanding, and Kate Kelly campaigned for women to have equal rights with men. There is no place for those messages in the modern church. Of course it is true that Mormonism has always been anti-gay, but in the past almost nobody spoke about it. It just wasn't an issue, the church seldom mentioned it and so the members did not feel the need to take a stand. but over recent years the church has chosen gay marriage as a topic to campaign on. Millions have spent spent opposing gay marriage legislation (mainly through highly organised astroturfing and quiet donations). The church leaders are now highly visible as anti gay, and so the devout members (those who pay attention) are as well. In short, Orson Scott Card is a devout Mormon and always has been. Over his lifetime his church changed, and so he changed with it. Sorry for such a long reply, but you did ask.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 11, 2014 2:59:26 GMT -5
Huh, it seemed like immediately after to me at the time. Maybe your comics have the same schedule as mine: four days ago I received Fantastic Four issue 4 through the post. Today I received issue 5.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 11, 2014 1:11:59 GMT -5
A classic example would be the original Galactus trilogy where nothing would stop Galactus from devouring the earth,not even his servant The Silver Surfer turning against him.Nothing in the universe ever stopped Galactus in cosmic history-except something that looked like a can-opener called the Ultimate Nullifier that Reed Richards stole out of Galactus' kitchen It wasn't the planes that killed King Kong. It was beauty that killed the beast. I agree with Chris Sims: The nullifier just gave him a face saving excuse to leave after his heart was no longer in it: he could never let it be said that a blind ant defeated him! But as for stories with big build up and little payoff, let's see... 99 percent of comics published in the last 25 years or so. The one that had the biggest effect on me was the penultimate issue of The Thing. We finally began to see realistic results of all the drug dealing, and we finally saw Ben's life going somewhere. The whole series was about his decades overdue soul searching, when he finally left the FF. And as his body reflects his inner soul, Ben began to mutate. It was superb! Realism, drama, danger, consequences, the big story, real change, something believable and deep... that issue got me so excited. And the next issue? It was all pretty much ignored. I was gutted.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 9, 2014 1:03:46 GMT -5
Fair point. I wonder if my reaction is an autistic thing. I was diagnosed a couple of years ago. The interviews took several days (with both my parents present!) and one of the key questions was how I played with toys. I never role played toys: I never acted out stuff, I saw toys as something to explore. I see toys and stories the same way I see the fields outside my window - as something that never gets old. As an adult I see the grass and flowers in a different way, but they are just as interesting as ever. I find the idea of tools for imagination alien to me. I see them as fascinating in their own right, and that never gets old. The first toys I remember wanting were "Weebles" - egg-like characters with weighted bases so they can't fall over. I never gave them names or role played anything, I just loved their elegance. That never gets old : I feel the same way now, except I now had added appreciation for the physics and minimalism. It bothered me that later versions had colour added to the clothes or were larger - the colour added nothing, and therefore reduced their efficiency, showing that Hasbro never understood what they had I am the same with comics: it probably explains why I love to study the Fantastic Four, and find endless depth, whereas others seem happy to just take the surface reading and move on to some other title. In a way I never grew up. I could spend my whole life exploring the first things I ever looked at. I think this is why I never really grew up and had a career. I see others rush into things and focus on adult interests, and they have friends and money, they fit in, and I'm still where I was as a child - I can't understand why people would abandon their first discoveries without seeing what they have. In a way I admire them they must be so clever to be able to do so many things, when I still sit here and stare out of the window, as awe-struck as ever by a blade of grass or the fact that eyes can see. Information overload is perhaps the defining feature of autism. I see so much. I notice so much, nothing is ever boring except change. Why change when there is so much undiscovered? Why discard a childhood idea just when we are about to learn something useful? I see the normal "growing up" as horribly inefficient and superficial. Yet on the other hand, in terms of the normal fast paced world of people, I am very slow and stuck at the start. I obsess endlessly over details. Neuro typical people miss the details and move on. In most situations being neuro typical is more efficient. But sometimes there is value in stopping and looking deeper. Neither is "right", the are just different ways of thinking. This also explains my fascination with reasons for things (see my web site AnswersAnswers.com/ ) and why I like my art to be very detailed (I create portaits using fractals). And why I tend to write very long replies when others have the gift of brevity.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 8, 2014 12:49:53 GMT -5
I love this pic. This is where I find myself in a small minority again. I've never seen this pic before, and it wrenches me to the gut. It's like the ending to Winnie the Pooh (the real one), where Christopher Robin says goodbye. I find myself screaming at Christopher Robin "No! Don't do it! It's cruel! There is no rule that you have to get rid of stuff you liked as a kid - you can both grow and change together! Why must you drop your friends? You really think you have outgrown Winnie the Pooh? That you are going on to create greater things? Hello? People only remember you because of that bear, you idiot! And now you break his heart? You think bears can't become adults?" and other such outbursts. Giving the bear to the next generation bugs me on so many levels. Why can't the bear grow up too? Why can't the next generation be creative - must they be forever in your shadow? Admittedly this thought is made worse by the Disney link. Disney is famous for destroying creativity: taking from the public domain and then working to stop others doing the same, demonising those who create their own ideas rather than paying for mass produced corporate ideas (e.g. Sid in Toy Story). Then there is the much bigger idea, that I reject, that childhood has bad parts that must be put away instead of developed (granted the idea comes from 1 Corinthians 13, but don't get me started on Paul). I want a world where we do not throw away our friends when we grow up, a world where we find new depths in our childhood friends rather than discarding them, a world where we encourage children to find their own way rather than repeat out own past, a world where childhood is not a stage to abandon and start again, but a strong foundation for continued growth. tl;dr That picture makes me sad.
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Post by tolworthy on Jun 8, 2014 9:29:01 GMT -5
Leaving aside the really awful funnybook science Needless to say I will be focusing on the science of FF 6 when I next update my website Thanks to your excellent pointers I just spent a happy couple of hours exploring exactly how Doom does his stuff, and it's remarkably consistent. but I won't derail the thread with my usual super long list of details. Regarding the Toad Men, I have long held that believability is the key to good superhero comics. yes, it might require mental gymnastics, but exercise is good for you. But the invasion of the Toad Men, and later the Metal Master, destroyed believability: both were events that were supposedly seen by the whole world, including readers of the comic. I think it's no coincidence that the Hulk, which broke the believability rule twice in six issues, was cancelled. When he came back he had smaller adventures in a remote desert - something we can believe maybe happened - and sales increased.
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