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Post by Confessor on Dec 17, 2014 4:41:10 GMT -5
Good idea. Why didn't I think of that ? Just nabbed one for $ 20 ! There are two on sale at eBay UK right now: one is a Buy It Now for £30 and the other is currently £6.99, with 3 days left to go in the auction. I'll be watching and hoping to nab the latter.
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Post by foxley on Dec 17, 2014 4:45:50 GMT -5
I'm glad to see the scarred bounty getting some representation here. If I was going to pick a single story, this would probably be the one to go for (although "The Fawn and the Star" in DC Special Series #21 would also be strong contender.) Wow! I'm a big Jonah Hex fan...how the hell did I not know about this story?! I'm slowly working on getting a full run of the '70s/'80s Jonah Hex comic and I already have every appearance of the bounty hunter from All-Star Western and Weird Western Tales + full runs of the Vertigo and Palmiotti/Gray series from the '90s and 2000s. I even have the issues of Justice League of America in which Hex appeared and the Secret Origins issue, so how has this passed me by? I'm off to eBay right now to see if I can pick up a copy of this beaut. Things like this is why I love the Classic Comics Xmas event. Glad to be of service, especially to a fellow Jonah Hex fan. "The Fawn and the Star" is great little Christmas tale and it made it on to my "Favourite Short Stories" 12 days a few years back. But be warned. DC Special Series #21 also contains "Wanted: Santa Claus -- Dead or Alive!" which is Frank Miller's first work on Batman (it's okay, he didn't write it. Denny O'Neill did), so it can be an 'in demand' comic.
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Post by berkley on Dec 18, 2014 2:53:52 GMT -5
I going to do this in roughly reverse chronological order, so here goes: Eternals #1I could have went with several other issues of this series - e.g. #2, #5, #10, the Annual - but even though the story is barely developed at all in this issue - it's mostly set-up and exposition - and my favourite Eternals characters - Thena, the Reject, and Karkas - don't appear at all, I chose Eternals #1 because it was my first exposure to the book, and while it's little more than an introduction to the basic Eternals concept, what an introduction and what a concept they were! I'd always been fascinated by Erich von Däniken's whole Chariots of the Gods thing as a kid and still think it's a great conception - not, as von Däniken tried to present it, as a credible scientific hypothesis, but rather as a creative framework for a fictional, symbolic exploration of human nature and its origins - where we came from, where we are right now, and where we're going as a species. And that's exactly what Kirby, with great care and skill, did in this book - a basic point that, tragically (and I mean that seriously), has been overlooked or ignored by every writer that's dealt with these characters ever since - something I find hard to forgive, because concepts this good don't come along every day, especially not in mainstream comics. But of course, therein lay the tragedy - that Kirby was forced by the nature of the industry upon which he depended to make a living to develop his idea for a company and an audience that weren't capable of appreciating it. And thus it's been travestied ever since, on the few occasions Marvel has bothered to revive it. But anyway, what captured me about this issue was not just the basic idea - that was just the hook - but the power and grandeur of Kirby's visualistion of it. Everything looked - and felt - so awe-inspringly huge, so immensely significant. And John Verpoorten's inks added - or rather retained - a certain roughness that are often evident in Kirby's pencils but tend to disappear under the hands of more slick inkers like Mike Royer, lending a kind of depth to the imagery that made it come alive to the reader/viewer. I think Verpoorten's inks added a lot of atmosphere to the first few issues of the series and wish he had stayed on the series, much as I admire Royer's excellent but very different style. The details and intricacies of the actual development of this basic idea unfolded in later issues - along with some of the best characters ever seen in comics, to my mind - all wasted on Marvel's management, their writers, and their audience, to my everlasting disappointment. But in this first issue, that basic idea and the imagery Kirby used to convey it to the reader were the things that caught my imagination and that make it a special comics memory for me to this day.
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 18, 2014 8:42:47 GMT -5
I miss your awesome Eternals thread from the old board, berk.
Cei-U! I summon the loss!
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Post by Confessor on Dec 18, 2014 10:01:18 GMT -5
I must confess to never reading your Eternals thread back on the CBR berk, but your write up above has intrigued me to the point that, if you were to resurrect it here, I'd definitely have a crack at reading this series along with you.
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Post by Polar Bear on Dec 19, 2014 17:02:11 GMT -5
Day 1: Ren & Stimpy Show Special #3, "Masters of Time and Space!" by Slott & Kazaleh, 1994 I can hear you now, saying, "What the heck, Polar Bear?" It's amazing. A young Dan Slott at his nuttiest, writing a choose-your-own-adventure comic book (you have to read it out of order for it to be read in order), full of time paradoxes and illusions, misapprehensions and misanthropy. It's insane, and it doesn't so much get re-read as re-experienced, because there are different choices within the story! Astonishing and utterly unique. Search it out.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 19, 2014 17:51:04 GMT -5
Day 1: Ren & Stimpy Show Special #3, "Masters of Time and Space!" by Slott & Kazaleh, 1994 I can hear you now, saying, "What the heck, Polar Bear?" It's amazing. A young Dan Slott at his nuttiest, writing a choose-your-own-adventure comic book (you have to read it out of order for it to be read in order), full of time paradoxes and illusions, misapprehensions and misanthropy. It's insane, and it doesn't so much get re-read as re-experienced, because there are different choices within the story! Astonishing and utterly unique. Search it out. I used to love choose your own adventure books but I've never seen one in comic form, great choice man.
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Post by Calamas on Dec 19, 2014 18:19:57 GMT -5
Batman #328 Oct 1980 “Double Jeopardy” Marv Wolfman Irv Novick Frank McLaughlin Looking over my choices they tend to fall into one of two categories: sentiment or new and different. This is the latter. Not too different, I’ll admit, but only three years into comics, to me this wasn’t standard superhero fare. It starts with a crime story setup. A man sends Batman a tape admitting he was guilty of a murder for which he was acquitted at trial, invoking Double Jeopardy and daring Batman to bring him to justice. During the ensuing investigation we meet characters with complicated emotional and “real world” entanglements. The second and concluding part was not quite as satisfying, in part due to revelations that required a very particular type of resolution, which in turn required a superhero--or at least a Batman-level superheroic--confrontation. It was still entertaining. In fairness, though, I have to concede that this story may have stuck in my head because it led me into believing I was in for a great run, and the exact opposite came to pass: transparent, blatant, and boring manipulation of the Batman family followed, ending with Ra’s ul Ghul, the Lazarus Pit, and the clichéd “Nope, he’s not dead yet” horror movie finale. But for a story to remain with me over thirty years later, there has to be more to it than what-might-have-been. It was the first time I discovered emotional content in what had previously been entertainment only.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 19, 2014 21:08:25 GMT -5
Day 1: Ren & Stimpy Show Special #3, "Masters of Time and Space!" by Slott & Kazaleh, 1994 I can hear you now, saying, "What the heck, Polar Bear?" It's amazing. A young Dan Slott at his nuttiest, writing a choose-your-own-adventure comic book (you have to read it out of order for it to be read in order), full of time paradoxes and illusions, misapprehensions and misanthropy. It's insane, and it doesn't so much get re-read as re-experienced, because there are different choices within the story! Astonishing and utterly unique. Search it out. I used to love choose your own adventure books but I've never seen one in comic form, great choice man. The Unwritten had a Choose your own adventure issue to reveal the origin of one of its characters a couple years back. Good stuff.
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Post by berkley on Dec 20, 2014 2:56:17 GMT -5
I must confess to never reading your Eternals thread back on the CBR berk, but your write up above has intrigued me to the point that, if you were to resurrect it here, I'd definitely have a crack at reading this series along with you. Thanks Confessor - and Cei-U (how do you multi-quote, again?). I hadn't thought about creating another Eternals thread, but now that you put the idea in my head I think I might do that whenever I get around to reading the series from start to finish again. That probably won't be for some time, though, with all the unread comics on my to-read stack.
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Post by Icctrombone on Dec 21, 2014 8:36:49 GMT -5
Super Heroes #1
"The Origin of the Fab Four" Dell, cover date January 1967 Writer - Don Arneson Artist - Sal Trapani My brothers got me into comics, but they were strictly DC. But I loved comics, especially super-heroes, and I soon made my way to Marvel. The family feel of Fantastic Four and the original X-Men appealed to me, and they became my favorite characters. And I tried any new super-type I saw - Solar, Fatman, the splitting Captain Marvel. But none of them won me over the way Lee/Kirby had done. And one day I saw this book. I hadn't tried much from Dell; characters like Nuklo and Kona didn't interest me. But this cover spoke to me; ' Here I am, your new favorite,' it said. A cool new super-group to discover, and this time I'd be in on the ground floor, with the first issue. So I eagerly grabbed a copy, ran home and read it. Anyone here ever read this comic? No, of course you haven't; nobody has. And there's a reason for that. It ain't all that good. Derivative characters (named, by the way, El, Hy, Crispy and Polymer Polly), unimaginative costumes, illogical plot and less logical origin. But I was invested in it before reading it, and I wasn't about to give up that easily. So I told myself it was cool, that it had potential, that the bad guy was cool. (Enndo-Man, a robot created to end humanity, did appeal to me. I was kinda down on humanity at an early age. We'll see evidence of that later on in this list.) Years passed, and I was able to convince myself that there was untapped potential in this book; I defended it to anybody who'd listen (not many). I plotted a sequel graphic novel. And I'm still unduly fond of it. Maybe it's a sympathy for the underdog; more likely I'm just stubborn. But I still look at the cover, and something about it still speaks to me. ' Love me,' it says. And I do. I just thought of something, there came a time when DC and Marvel both copyrighted the term "Superheroes". I wonder how this comic was able to use the term ?
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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 21, 2014 8:44:48 GMT -5
It was published 20+ years before the Big Two trademarked (not copyrighted) the term.
Cei-U! I summon the timeline!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2014 20:18:50 GMT -5
Better (really, really) late than never, I hope ... 12. Lois Lane #77 (80-Page Giant G-39) "A Collection of Lois' Greatest Shockers" October 1967 cover date DC I had to really restrain myself from making all 4 of my additions to my original 2005 list (we get two more slots this time, of course, & I forced myself to drop two of my original 10 purely to apply a chronological scheme this time around ... in short, I'm sticking purely to comics I encountered at 10 or [mostly] younger) 80-Page Giants. Heck, for that matter, if Cei-U! had put a gun to my head (one of his fondest dreams, I know) & told me I could only pick 80-Page Giants, I'd have been able to do so without batting an eye, so deep is my fondness for these comics. Anyway. Lois Lane #77 was almost certainly the first issue of Lois' series that I bought, way back in the summer of '67, & it's still a corker. A few years ago I picked one of these, "Lois Lane -- Convict" as one of my all-time favorite shorter stories; the thing was downright grim, especially to the 7-year-old I was when I first encountered it, with an aura of sinister queasiness that created a captivating noir atmosphere. Similar descriptions could be applied to several of the other stories here, especially "The Mad Woman of Metropolis," "The Ghost of Lois Lane" & "Lois Lane's Darkest Secret." Looking back, this was the 3rd 80-Page Giant I ever bought. The two before it will show up here later. The one after it, too.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2014 22:40:16 GMT -5
I haven't been around much and still won't be around regularly for a while at least, but decided to pop in and post my 12 Days picks before it was all over. So merry Christmas and happy comics to all. On he first day of Christmas the spinner rack gave to me... Batman #250 from 1973-the first super-hero comic I ever picked out off the spinner racks at the ripe age of 3-4 years old. It was sort of a paint by number mystery featuring a wax museum, but the back up story always intrigued me featuring a story of a group of underprivileged kids Bruce Wayne takes camping swappng campfire tales about what and who Batman is...featuring this classic panel... I had encountered Batman via the Adam West series and Super-Friends previously, but this was my first exposure in comic books and as I said the first super-hero comic I ever picked out for myself. It survived minus the cover and front/last page in my collection for a long time before it was discarded as too damaged when I started "collecting" comics in high school and came across my first Overstreet Guide. When I ended my hiatus from comics in 2012, this was one of the first books I tracked down at a con to once again own a copy of. -M
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Post by shaxper on Dec 24, 2014 23:59:59 GMT -5
I haven't been around much and still won't be around regularly for a while at least, but decided to pop in and post my 12 Days picks before it was all over. It's good to have you back, even intermittently
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