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Post by Doghouse Reilly on Jul 11, 2024 5:55:42 GMT -5
I'm in a Conan mood lately, and I've been thinking that when we take our family vacation in France next year, I'm going to try to track down the Glenat Conan books which Ablaze hasn't translated yet. Does anybody have a clue how difficult it would be to find these in a year's time for a tourist? If I leave France without the Glenat Rogues In The House adaptation, I'm going to be sorely disappointed. From what I hear of the European comics market, I'm expecting that it won't be a problem, though.
And since this will likely be my last visit to Europe (not that I'm dying or anything, I just don't see another European trip in my future), I want to make the most of it, comics-wise (and cuisine-wise, too, I guess, but... comics!). Does anybody have recommendations for other French-language comics to look into, which don't have English translations, or are otherwise not available in the States? I don't speak French, but I going to try to start getting functionally competent in it soon. I'm aware of Tintin. I am decidedly not a Moebius fan.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jul 11, 2024 8:58:15 GMT -5
I'm in a Conan mood lately, and I've been thinking that when we take our family vacation in France next year, I'm going to try to track down the Glenat Conan books which Ablaze hasn't translated yet. Does anybody have a clue how difficult it would be to find these in a year's time for a tourist? If I leave France without the Glenat Rogues In The House adaptation, I'm going to be sorely disappointed. From what I I hear of the European comics market, I'm expecting that it won't be a problem, though. And since this will likely be my last visit to Europe (not that I'm dying or anything, I just don't see another European trip in my future), I want to make the most of it, comics-wise (and cuisine-wise, too, I guess, but... comics!). Does anybody have recommendations for other French-language comics to look into, which don't have English translations, or are otherwise not available in the States? I don't speak French, but I going to try to start getting functionally competent in it soon. I'm aware of Tintin. I am decidedly not a Moebius fan. According to the FNAC website, La maison aux trois bandits ( Rogues in the House) is available both online and on the shelves so things are looking good! There is so much choice in France that I'd be hard-pressed to recommend a title in particular, for fear of forgetting another one equally worthwhile. I think the best approach will be to bouquiner (a French verb meaning leisurely looking at books to find the rare pearl that might catch one's fancy). |
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jul 11, 2024 12:08:07 GMT -5
(...) And since this will likely be my last visit to Europe (not that I'm dying or anything, I just don't see another European trip in my future), I want to make the most of it, comics-wise (and cuisine-wise, too, I guess, but... comics!). Does anybody have recommendations for other French-language comics to look into, which don't have English translations, or are otherwise not available in the States? I don't speak French, but I going to try to start getting functionally competent in it soon. I'm aware of Tintin. I am decidedly not a Moebius fan. Don't know if this is in your field of interest, but if I were in France I'd seriously think about picking up a copy of Mickey et l'océan perdu, even though I keep hoping it will get translated into a language I can read: |
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Post by Dizzy D on Jul 12, 2024 5:28:43 GMT -5
I definitely think you should have little problems finding the Conan books. Glenat is a big publisher and should be on the shelves in most stores over here (and worse case scenario, I probably could get you copies in German or Dutch, which are both a bit closer to english (at least in some ways) and get those to you).
For recommendations: maybe check the European comics threads, there are so many different things and I have little insight in what has been translated into English and what not.
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Post by Doghouse Reilly on Jul 12, 2024 6:23:36 GMT -5
I'm in a Conan mood lately, and I've been thinking that when we take our family vacation in France next year, I'm going to try to track down the Glenat Conan books which Ablaze hasn't translated yet. Does anybody have a clue how difficult it would be to find these in a year's time for a tourist? If I leave France without the Glenat Rogues In The House adaptation, I'm going to be sorely disappointed. From what I I hear of the European comics market, I'm expecting that it won't be a problem, though. And since this will likely be my last visit to Europe (not that I'm dying or anything, I just don't see another European trip in my future), I want to make the most of it, comics-wise (and cuisine-wise, too, I guess, but... comics!). Does anybody have recommendations for other French-language comics to look into, which don't have English translations, or are otherwise not available in the States? I don't speak French, but I going to try to start getting functionally competent in it soon. I'm aware of Tintin. I am decidedly not a Moebius fan. According to the FNAC website, La maison aux trois bandits ( Rogues in the House) is available both online and on the shelves so things are looking good! There is so much choice in France that I'd be hard-pressed to recommend a title in particular, for fear of forgetting another one equally worthwhile. I think the best approach will be to bouquiner (a French verb meaning leisurely looking at books to find the rare pearl that might catch one's fancy). Merci! |
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Post by Doghouse Reilly on Jul 12, 2024 6:43:17 GMT -5
(...) And since this will likely be my last visit to Europe (not that I'm dying or anything, I just don't see another European trip in my future), I want to make the most of it, comics-wise (and cuisine-wise, too, I guess, but... comics!). Does anybody have recommendations for other French-language comics to look into, which don't have English translations, or are otherwise not available in the States? I don't speak French, but I going to try to start getting functionally competent in it soon. I'm aware of Tintin. I am decidedly not a Moebius fan. Don't know if this is in your field of interest, but if I were in France I'd seriously think about picking up a copy of Mickey et l'océan perdu, even though I keep hoping it will get translated into a language I can read: I'm open to going beyond my usual comics tastes for this, so while I'm not a Disney fan, the art for this is intriguing. Thanks. I'm mostly curious about books with really good art, preferably in (a) style(s) not normally found in the U.S. Whatever French I manage to learn is going to atrophy after my trip, so the pretty pictures are what's going to have lasting value for me. Blacksad, for example, has a premise I like and beautiful art, but I did not enjoy reading it. I don't know if it was the translation or not, but if my only exposure to it had been in French, with me only understanding a little of it, I'd probably have kept it in my collection. |
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Post by berkley on Jul 13, 2024 0:31:36 GMT -5
Don't know if this is in your field of interest, but if I were in France I'd seriously think about picking up a copy of Mickey et l'océan perdu, even though I keep hoping it will get translated into a language I can read:
I'm open to going beyond my usual comics tastes for this, so while I'm not a Disney fan, the art for this is intriguing. Thanks. I'm mostly curious about books with really good art, preferably in (a) style(s) not normally found in the U.S. Whatever French I manage to learn is going to atrophy after my trip, so the pretty pictures are what's going to have lasting value for me. Blacksad, for example, has a premise I like and beautiful art, but I did not enjoy reading it. I don't know if it was the translation or not, but if my only exposure to it had been in French, with me only understanding a little of it, I'd probably have kept it in my collection. I know you said you didn't like Moebius but it might be worth your while to give Blueberry a look if you haven't already: technically not Moebius, since he was credited under his real name, Jean Giraud, and it's done in a very different style and attitude from the more whimsical and experimental Moebius stuff. Apart from that, like Dizzy D said, the European Comics thread has tons of suggestions and lots of images to give an idea of how the artwork looks. Like many anglophone readers of my age, some of my favourites are artists I first saw in Heavy Metal back in the 70s - Phillippe "Lone Sloane" Druillet would be near the top of the list.
You mentioned Tintin but didn't say how you felt about it. If you like that ligne claire style of art, you might want to look at other things in that line (er, so to speak), e.g. Blake and Mortimer - those those are quite wordy compared to Tintin (an incentive to keep working on your French!). And more recently the Franka series, written and drawn by a Netherlands artist but available in French translation.
Those are a few of the French-language things I've enjoyed the last couple years but there are lats more very famous ones I have yet to try, e.g. Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese, and on and on. What kinds of artists do you like in other comics?
I wouldn't assume you have to lose whatever French you pick up while you,re over there: with all the free online resources available today, there are all kinds of things you can do to keep it going. It's true that most people will reach a plateau beyond which they find it hard to progress - at least this has been my experience. Actually that's not quite right - I've found you can continue to improve your reading skills but oral comprehension and speaking are much more difficult.
But anyway, I think it's a great idea to try learning another language. English is so much the dominant language around the world that we Anglos in North America - or perhaps English-speaking countries in general? not sure about NZ or Oz, etc, but I have the impression the UK is a little better, perhaps from being closer to Europe - we tend to lag way behind everyone else in this regard so we have to make a bit of an effort and it's worth it.
Just as an unexpected side-effect, I've found that trying to read things in a second language gives me some of the same feeling of discovery and even something like the wonder and naivety of reading books and comics as a very small kid - because in a way, I do have only a childish understanding or grasp of this language. For example, I found when reading even the relatively simple words of a Tintin album, I had to be so much more careful and make so many pauses that it also led me to appreciate Hergé's artwork in a way I hadn't done before.
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