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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 14:44:52 GMT -5
By 'remaindered', I mean comics which were returned/remaindered copies of the originals, which were then literally pulled apart and repackaged together with a new cover.
I know Archie had some 160 page 'Giant-Size' editions which were 5 comics apiece (32 x 5 = 160). Elson's 96 pages were 3 DCs from 1980-81. In England, there was the 'Double Double' line in the late 60s, early 70s which were supposed to be DCs but sometimes a Marvel title would get in.
I'm assuming each edition of Elson had 3 mixed titles between the covers and so two editions of #1, #2 etc could be completely different inside.
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Post by badwolf on Jun 8, 2023 15:14:03 GMT -5
I had the top three of those, but they were branded with Kiddie City, which was where I got them. I was never sure if that was what those books were.
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Post by foxley on Jun 8, 2023 16:53:17 GMT -5
Innovation Spectacular 'ran' (if that is the right word) for 2 issues and was a rebinding of existing printed books with original covers and staples removed. According to the foreword of issue #2, there are approximately 6 different versions of issue #1, so it seems safe to assume were were probably a similar number of versions of #2.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jun 8, 2023 17:24:59 GMT -5
By 'remaindered', I mean comics which were returned/remaindered copies of the originals, which were then literally pulled apart and repackaged together with a new cover.
I know Archie had some 160 page 'Giant-Size' editions which were 5 comics apiece (32 x 5 = 160). Elson's 96 pages were 3 DCs from 1980-81. In England, there was the 'Double Double' line in the late 60s, early 70s which were supposed to be DCs but sometimes a Marvel title would get in. In Quebec, Éditions Héritage did that a lot with its comicorama and jumbo comicorama books. The publisher didn't even bother pulling remaindered comics apart; they were just glued together, four or nine at a time, under a new soft cardboard cover. That was back in the '70s. They were a great deal. The four-issue books were 69 cents apiece; the 9-issue ones went for $1.25. The latter always featured nine different titles, so it was like a one-stop visit to the newsstand.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jun 8, 2023 18:13:18 GMT -5
I don't know for sure; but I don't think we are talking about remainders, as used within the industry. In the publishing world, remainders are unsold copies returned to the publisher or distributor, for credit on future orders. In American comics, newsstand comics were not returned in whole for credit; they did "affidavit returns" or "strip returns," where they stripped off the cover or the masthead and returned those for credit, as an affidavit of unsold copies. Direct Market comics were sold as non-returnable, except in certain circumstances, like the title shipped late or the contents did not match initial order solicitations. In publishing, returned copies are then sold to discount houses, who sell them to booksellers as remaindered copies, with markings to indicate that, at deeply discounted prices. We used to carry those kinds of things in our bargain section, at Barnes & Noble.
These look more like unsold inventory, which was sold to a distributor, at low prices, which were then repackaged; or else, repackaged by the publisher and sold at deep discount. Either way, I don't think we are talking about returned copies, but excess inventory.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jun 8, 2023 23:35:58 GMT -5
There were a few such titles in the Golden Age, mostly from Fawcett (Gift Comics, Xmas Comics) and Fox (can't remember the titles off the top of my head). One of the most infamous was Elliot Publishing's Double Comics, a 138-pager that bound two random comics from other publishers under a new cover with all copyrights removed. Those other pubs were understandably peeved and took legal action but Elliot hung on long enough to publish the first few issues of Classic Comics, later Classics Illustrated.
Cei-U! I summon the bad boys!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 23:53:17 GMT -5
Would the I.W. Comics i.e. Super Comics publications count for these? They weren't remaindered so much as unauthorized reprints of other publishers comics with new covers because they had bought the printing plates and simply ran a new print run of the book with a new cover. I only have 1, the reprint they did of The Mask of Fu Manchu with Wally Wood art. The cover is much less attractive, but the the price I got it for made up for the inferior cover. Here's the original by Avon with a Wood cover from 1951... and the IW version with a slightly altered title and cover by Carl Burgos from 1964... but the interiors are the same. -M
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Post by tartanphantom on Jun 9, 2023 9:28:57 GMT -5
By 'remaindered', I mean comics which were returned/remaindered copies of the originals, which were then literally pulled apart and repackaged together with a new cover.
I know Archie had some 160 page 'Giant-Size' editions which were 5 comics apiece (32 x 5 = 160). Elson's 96 pages were 3 DCs from 1980-81. In England, there was the 'Double Double' line in the late 60s, early 70s which were supposed to be DCs but sometimes a Marvel title would get in.
I'm assuming each edition of Elson had 3 mixed titles between the covers and so two editions of #1, #2 etc could be completely different inside.
I had the top three of those, but they were branded with Kiddie City, which was where I got them. I was never sure if that was what those books were.
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Post by MDG on Jun 9, 2023 9:52:02 GMT -5
There were a few such titles in the Golden Age, mostly from Fawcett (Gift Comics, Xmas Comics) and Fox (can't remember the titles off the top of my head). .... Cei-U! I summon the bad boys! EC also put out annuals of four unsold books under a new cover. I believe they had three horror and two each SF and war. This is the second war collection...
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Post by badwolf on Jun 9, 2023 10:16:15 GMT -5
I had the top three of those, but they were branded with Kiddie City, which was where I got them. I was never sure if that was what those books were.
Ah you know what, they did say Lionel Play World, now that I see them again. Lionel was the same company as Kiddie City.
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Post by tonebone on Jun 9, 2023 12:21:42 GMT -5
This collection of the mini-series The Tick Golden Age is literally a collection of the mini-series, with the comics collected, the spines chopped off, and it bound as a TPB. The individual covers are there, intact, ads and all, and are stiffer than regular comics covers, which gives the book a strange feeling when you read it. Now, it would be REALLY cool if the ads, etc. were "golden age" material, but they're just the modern ads the books were printed with.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2023 3:19:38 GMT -5
This is what a British 'double double' looked like from 1968
It was supposed to consist of 4 remaindered DCs but this collection had Action Comics #365, Avengers #39, Brave And The Bold #75 & Fantastic Four #64...
It is currently up on ebay with an asking price over US$160....
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