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Post by codystarbuck on May 5, 2023 20:30:49 GMT -5
I suppose not having read much Marvel or DC after the early 1980s the concept is a little lost on me. The Punisher started before then but I didn't see many of his stories in the 1970s. You mean when he was treated like a criminal or close enough, for government work? He was pretty much an antagonist, with the two magazine stories (Marvel Preview and Marvel Super Action) being about the only time they did him as a hero and those ripped off the Executioner series fairly heavily. The Powers That Be, at the time, definitely treated him as not an aspirational character. Move into the 80s and suddenly he is a hero, not a mass murderer.
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Post by Duragizer on May 5, 2023 20:35:50 GMT -5
Spawn. Just for the lulz.
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Post by commond on May 5, 2023 21:03:03 GMT -5
The only series I can think of off the top of my head is Nexus.
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Post by jason on May 5, 2023 22:47:15 GMT -5
Putting the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the SA would have been fun.
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Post by Prince Hal on May 5, 2023 22:51:04 GMT -5
Would like to have seen a JSA book done during the heyday of the Silver Age. I guess that's a bit of the spirit those early 90s mini-series tried to capture, but I would have enjoyed seeing folks like Arnold Drake, Edmond Hamilton, Gardner Fox, even Bob Haney and Kanigher write it and Murphy Anderson, Nick Cardy, Gil Kane, Ramona Fradon, and Joe Kubert drawing it to bring back the best aspects of All-Star in the mid- to late sixties. I mean, they successfully revived Hawkman, the Atom, GL, the Flash, and the Spectre, dipped their toes in the water with Hourman, Dr. Fate, Wildcat, Black Canary and Starman, made semi-regulars of the Earth-Two GL, Flash and Atom, and made a hallowed tradition of the summer JLA-JSA team-ups. Three times Schwartz devoted one full book of the team-up exclusively or almost exclusively to the JSA. If that was an experiment, it seemed to have worked, because they did it three times that I recall. And that must have meant that sales didn't drop. That would have been a lot of fun.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 23:37:47 GMT -5
Did you ever read that issue of Deadpool where he travels back in time to the pages of an Amazing Spider-Man comic? Oh, you're right! That was Deadpool #11 during the Joe Kelly run, I have an Omnibus with that issue. It's hilarious, I must have been thinking of that one subconsciously when I posted. Putting the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles in the SA would have been fun. I can see it now..."The most offbeat title of 196x, you won't want to miss the hippest teenagers in town!!" Fun indeed!
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 23:44:41 GMT -5
Would like to have seen a JSA book done during the heyday of the Silver Age. I guess that's a bit of the spirit those early 90s mini-series tried to capture, but I would have enjoyed seeing folks like Arnold Drake, Edmond Hamilton, Gardner Fox, even Bob Haney and Kanigher write it and Murphy Anderson, Nick Cardy, Gil Kane, Ramona Fradon, and Joe Kubert drawing it to bring back the best aspects of All-Star in the mid- to late sixties. I mean, they successfully revived Hawkman, the Atom, GL, the Flash, and the Spectre, dipped their toes in the water with Hourman, Dr. Fate, Wildcat, Black Canary and Starman, made semi-regulars of the Earth-Two GL, Flash and Atom, and made a hallowed tradition of the summer JLA-JSA team-ups. Three times Schwartz devoted one full book of the team-up exclusively or almost exclusively to the JSA. If that was an experiment, it seemed to have worked, because they did it three times that I recall. And that must have meant that sales didn't drop. That would have been a lot of fun. Oh, I love this, agreed it would have been a lot of fun. I've long had a similar thought around the Captain Marvel/Shazam Family during the 60's and what a loss it was that they were in limbo during that decade. Wouldn't that have been a perfect period for that property (in the right hands of course)?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 23:51:28 GMT -5
I'll add two more. I think Monica Rambeau would have been great in the Avengers in the 60's as well. And while he's technically another flavor of the Green Goblin, I think some Ditko era Hobgoblin would have been cool.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 5:35:49 GMT -5
Great topic!
Ghost Rider drawn by Steve Ditko in 1962 would have appealed to me.
And Venom appearing, circa 1962, by Lee and Ditko, is something I can definitely imagine.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 5:40:56 GMT -5
Would like to have seen a JSA book done during the heyday of the Silver Age. I guess that's a bit of the spirit those early 90s mini-series tried to capture, but I would have enjoyed seeing folks like Arnold Drake, Edmond Hamilton, Gardner Fox, even Bob Haney and Kanigher write it and Murphy Anderson, Nick Cardy, Gil Kane, Ramona Fradon, and Joe Kubert drawing it to bring back the best aspects of All-Star in the mid- to late sixties. I mean, they successfully revived Hawkman, the Atom, GL, the Flash, and the Spectre, dipped their toes in the water with Hourman, Dr. Fate, Wildcat, Black Canary and Starman, made semi-regulars of the Earth-Two GL, Flash and Atom, and made a hallowed tradition of the summer JLA-JSA team-ups. Three times Schwartz devoted one full book of the team-up exclusively or almost exclusively to the JSA. If that was an experiment, it seemed to have worked, because they did it three times that I recall. And that must have meant that sales didn't drop. That would have been a lot of fun. Oh, I love this, agreed it would have been a lot of fun. I've long had a similar thought around the Captain Marvel/Shazam Family during the 60's and what a loss it was that they were in limbo during that decade. Wouldn't that have been a perfect period for that property (in the right hands of course)? Absolutely, I can see certain things in my head, based on that era.
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Post by Reptisaurus! on May 6, 2023 13:43:47 GMT -5
Shelley Mayer's Power Pack Kubert and Kanigher's Jonah Hex Lee and Ditko's Ghost World
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Post by codystarbuck on May 6, 2023 20:24:22 GMT -5
Dark Knight Returns done as Batman 1966.....with Kirk Douglas as the model for Two-Face. Not quite sure who you use for Carrie Kelly.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 20:50:39 GMT -5
Dark Knight Returns done as Batman 1966.....with Kirk Douglas as the model for Two-Face. Not quite sure who you use for Carrie Kelly. I want this. I can totally see Kirk Douglas as the reference. I vote Hayley Mills for Carrie, or maybe even Patty Duke, as a similar reference.
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Post by chadwilliam on May 6, 2023 21:11:57 GMT -5
You may have to love some aspect(s) of Silver Age storytelling to embrace this topic (or maybe not), but sometimes I think about characters/teams that were introduced at some point in comic book history, and what might have been if they were published in an earlier era. And not so much the idea of a "modern/retro" treatment today, literally a "what if?" back in time. I'll use an example. Harley Quinn obviously came along in the 90's first via the animated series and later crossing into the comic book world itself. But take for example this original concept sketch for the character: I could totally have seen her in the late 50's/early 60's era Batman books. Would she have been as big a breakout star? I don't know about that, but I could see the Joker of that era having a lady partner of sorts analogous a bit for storytelling purposes as Batwoman was for Batman. Some idea of how Harley Quinn might have looked circa 1963 though Moldoff's style had changed by the time he drew this commission. Along similar lines, I would no more have wanted Bane around during the 50's than I did the 90's but Dick Sprang did draw this...
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 21:51:32 GMT -5
chadwilliam - I love that Moldoff image, changed style or not, this just hits me the right way. And at least to me, Harley seems to fit right in there. So cool. While I'm not as big on Bane personally, boy could Sprang still draw even at that age (still my favorite Batman artist ever).
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