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Post by wildfire2099 on Feb 9, 2023 8:01:12 GMT -5
I think the list can be pretty fluid Like, Deathstroke USED to be a C list villain, but in the last event he almost took over the world. Kingpin is definitely an A-lister.
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Post by Icctrombone on Feb 9, 2023 8:25:29 GMT -5
I think the list can be pretty fluid Like, Deathstroke USED to be a C list villain, but in the last event he almost took over the world. Kingpin is definitely an A-lister. The kingpin is only an A lister among street level characters. He could never take on a super powered person. He can’t tangle with the Avengers or even the FF.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 9, 2023 8:57:50 GMT -5
Grey Gargoyle. I still am amused by how his powers had little-to-no effect on the Hulk: Why did his powers not work on Hulk? Don't tell me it was because he was already grey.
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Post by tarkintino on Feb 9, 2023 8:59:19 GMT -5
I selected Grey Gargoyle: unique power with no easy remedy, and its a frightening way to be trapped and/or killed. Near-limitless potential (some explored in the pages of Captain America and the Falcon)... ...for a character of this kind, which sort of elevates him to B List villain level.
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Post by commond on Feb 9, 2023 8:59:47 GMT -5
If you're going by the true definition of an A-lister then it's a character who everyone knows and whom creators use to try to sell books. There are a lot of A list villains that haven't been used by creators of other books who are still A list because of how important they are to a title. These villains tend to be the arch-enemies of the most popular heroes, eg. Magneto, Loki, the Green Goblin or the Red Skull. The Kingpin is definitely on that level. If you're talking about a villain that could instigate a company wide crossover then that's the upper echelon. That said, there were a lot of company wide crossovers that were started by lesser characters.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Feb 9, 2023 10:20:55 GMT -5
This all feels very "CBR Rumbles Board." And that way lies madness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2023 10:28:51 GMT -5
I think the list can be pretty fluid Like, Deathstroke USED to be a C list villain, but in the last event he almost took over the world. Kingpin is definitely an A-lister. The kingpin is only an A lister among street level characters. He could never take on a super powered person. He can’t tangle with the Avengers or even the FF. Sure he could. He became mayor of New York and made it illegal for them to operate within the city. You don't need physical power to be A-list, power comes in many forms. -M
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 9, 2023 10:34:01 GMT -5
Zom. I love Zom. He transcends any bourgeois attempts to assign him to a list.
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Post by badwolf on Feb 9, 2023 11:17:38 GMT -5
Who...WHAT...is ZOM???
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Post by codystarbuck on Feb 9, 2023 11:28:40 GMT -5
For that list, Taskmaster. In reality, Count Nefaria, Mentallo & The Fixer, Stilt-Man, and the Masked Marauder (he was Cylon before Cylon was cool!). Didn't count Nefaria like humiliate the Avengers once? Everybody humiliated the Avengers once; the guys are a bunch of chuckleheads!
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 9, 2023 11:50:20 GMT -5
Zom is a Silver Age foe of Doctor Strange. He first appeared in Strange Tales #156. He’s about twenty feet high. He’s a regular agent of chaos, he is. He’s appeared a few times since his late Silver Age debut but I’ve never read any of his more recent exploits.
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Post by Confessor on Feb 9, 2023 19:28:27 GMT -5
The lack of an "Other" option ruins this poll for me. I have no particularly strong feelings about any of those characters.
Had we had an "Other" option, I likely would've gone with Stilt-Man. Wilbur Day coulda...shoulda...had the world, man!
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Post by mikelmidnight on Feb 10, 2023 12:09:13 GMT -5
I think the list can be pretty fluid Like, Deathstroke USED to be a C list villain, but in the last event he almost took over the world. Kingpin is definitely an A-lister. The kingpin is only an A lister among street level characters. He could never take on a super powered person. He can’t tangle with the Avengers or even the FF.
We're using two different listing. You're using a listing which rates by muscle power; others are using a listing which rates by prominence.
The Stranger, for example, could eliminate the Red Skull with barely a thought, but he's a forgettable character who pops up rarely, whereas the Red Skull is completely foundational as an opponent to one of Marvel's primary heroes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2023 13:06:04 GMT -5
I think we need a Stranger VS Red Skull mini-series to really settle that question.
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Post by Hoosier X on Feb 10, 2023 13:11:07 GMT -5
I think we need a Stranger VS Red Skull mini-series to really settle that question. Zom could be a guest Chaos Entity. Let’s see, who would be a good obscure Marvel hero to combat the evil plan? I know! How about the Golden Age Angel? Or maybe the Fin!
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