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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 24, 2023 13:21:39 GMT -5
I had heard of the Shadow as a kid; I knew the phrase "who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men". But my first real exposure to the character was the DC comic by O'Neil and Kaluta in the summer of 1973, between my junior & senior years of high school. I loved it. The DC series went thru changes; three very different artists in two years - Kaluta, Frank Robbins and E.R. Cruz. Each change was initially jarring, but I thought all three did great work and did justice to the character.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 24, 2023 13:56:59 GMT -5
I had heard of the Shadow as a kid; I knew the phrase "who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men". But my first real exposure to the character was the DC comic by O'Neil and Kaluta in the summer of 1973, between my junior & senior years of high school. I loved it. The DC series went thru changes; three very different artists in two years - Kaluta, Frank Robbins and E.R. Cruz. Each change was initially jarring, but I thought all three did great work and did justice to the character. Heresy Alert: I like the Robbins issues better than Kaluta's.
Cei-U! I summon the unthinkable!
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Post by MDG on Jan 24, 2023 14:20:43 GMT -5
I had heard of the Shadow as a kid; I knew the phrase "who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men". But my first real exposure to the character was the DC comic by O'Neil and Kaluta in the summer of 1973, between my junior & senior years of high school. I loved it. The DC series went thru changes; three very different artists in two years - Kaluta, Frank Robbins and E.R. Cruz. Each change was initially jarring, but I thought all three did great work and did justice to the character. Heresy Alert: I like the Robbins issues better than Kaluta's. Agree--I'll grant that the switch from Kaluta to Robbins was jarring, but really, it makes sense since Robbins' style is steeped in 30s adventure strips. I think he would've done a better job than O'Neil as writer in the long run as well.
EDIT: Can't fault Kaluta at all though--if Robbins caught the feel of period strips, Kaluta was comparable to the best of 30s pulp illustration.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 24, 2023 14:33:22 GMT -5
My parents had a few records that were various old-time radio shows when I was a kid. So I had heard a couple of episodes of the Shadow radio show (almost certainly Orson Welles) when I was quite young. I missed DC's The Shadow, but somehow came up with most of the issues from various sources. I like both the Kaluta issues and the Robbins issues. I've read many of the comic book series' of The Shadow since then. I've honestly never gotten around to reading any of the pulps. I just never found them when I was very seriously reading pulps.
So I like the character, but I'm definitely not a Shadow aficionado.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 24, 2023 14:41:13 GMT -5
Heresy Alert: I like the Robbins issues better than Kaluta's. Agree--I'll grant that the switch from Kaluta to Robbins was jarring, but really, it makes sense since Robbins' style is steeped in 30s adventure strips. I think he would've done a better job than O'Neil as writer in the long run as well.
EDIT: Can't fault Kaluta at all though--if Robbins caught the feel of period strips, Kaluta was comparable to the best of 30s pulp illustration.
Oh, I have no problem with Kaluta. He's a great artist. I just like Robbins better--on this book.
Cei-U! I summon the win-win!
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Post by berkley on Jan 24, 2023 15:53:42 GMT -5
Kaluta was great and I liked both Robbins and E.R. Cruz as well. Too bad the series didn't last longer.
I would love to have seen Bernie Wrightson or Neal Adams have a crack at the character: I think their styles each would have been perfect for it.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 24, 2023 17:20:25 GMT -5
Kaluta was great and I liked both Robbins and E.R. Cruz as well. Too bad the series didn't last longer. I would love to have seen Bernie Wrightson or Neal Adams have a crack at the character: I think their styles each would have been perfect for it. Wrightson did the first ads for the DC Shadow. I'm sure I wasn't the only fan disappointed when he turned out not to be the actual artist (though of course we got over it at first sight of Kaluta's version).
Cei-U! I summon the old bait-and-switch!
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Post by chaykinstevens on Jan 24, 2023 17:43:51 GMT -5
I would love to have seen Bernie Wrightson or Neal Adams have a crack at the character: I think their styles each would have been perfect for it. Wrightson collaborated with with his studio-mate Kaluta on the Shadow #3. GCD says, "In Back Issue magazine #10, Mike Kaluta gives pencil and ink credits to himself and Bernie Wrightson."
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Post by berkley on Jan 24, 2023 18:41:39 GMT -5
I would love to have seen Bernie Wrightson or Neal Adams have a crack at the character: I think their styles each would have been perfect for it. Wrightson collaborated with with his studio-mate Kaluta on the Shadow #3. GCD says, "In Back Issue magazine #10, Mike Kaluta gives pencil and ink credits to himself and Bernie Wrightson." I'll have to keep that in mind next time I read #3 again.
I would like to get my hands on some of the facsimile reprints of the original pulps, including the illustrations, etc, if they aren't too pricey. I might try ordering one of the Nostalgia reprints to see how it looks.
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Post by tartanphantom on Jan 24, 2023 18:51:07 GMT -5
Hard to believe that the Shadow IP is still owned by Condé Nast... it was part of their acquisition of Street and Smith years ago. Nothing says "classic Pulp character" like GQ, Vogue, Vanity Fair and Architectural Digest.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 24, 2023 21:20:29 GMT -5
Hard to believe that the Shadow IP is still owned by Condé Nast... it was part of their acquisition of Street and Smith years ago. Nothing says "classic Pulp character" like GQ, Vogue, Vanity Fair and Architectural Digest. I don't know; snazzy hat and swanky cape, fashionable girlfriend and the Sanctum Sanctorum. Sounds like it fits in with those three magazines.
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Post by MDG on Jan 24, 2023 22:19:41 GMT -5
Hard to believe that the Shadow IP is still owned by Condé Nast... it was part of their acquisition of Street and Smith years ago. Nothing says "classic Pulp character" like GQ, Vogue, Vanity Fair and Architectural Digest. When I had a job that took me into Old Greenwich, Connecticut every month or so, I used to pass these gateway obelisks by the old Conde Nast headquarters and always thought about the Shadow.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2023 9:12:56 GMT -5
Hard to believe that the Shadow IP is still owned by Condé Nast... it was part of their acquisition of Street and Smith years ago. Nothing says "classic Pulp character" like GQ, Vogue, Vanity Fair and Architectural Digest. It’s a strange world. I still think about the days when Panda Energy owned a wrestling company (TNA). And it was never right seeing “Paramount: A Gulf & Western company”…
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 25, 2023 10:28:57 GMT -5
Hard to believe that the Shadow IP is still owned by Condé Nast... it was part of their acquisition of Street and Smith years ago. Nothing says "classic Pulp character" like GQ, Vogue, Vanity Fair and Architectural Digest. It’s a strange world. Let's keep it that way.
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Post by zaku on Jan 25, 2023 11:38:43 GMT -5
I read some stories published by Dynamite and I quite liked them! Just my opinion They even tried to reconcile the two alter-egos thing. Edit. This one was very good
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