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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 22, 2023 18:33:55 GMT -5
I think 'pop culture is fractured' is exactly right. There is too much now, btu current and past, for anything to being the cultural phenomenon that happened in the past. What song in the last 25 years has the impact of the Beatles, the 80s video starts, even the pop of 90s?
What TV shows or movies have the ability to have quotes the 'I have a bad feeling about this' enter general use in the in this century?
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Post by commond on Jan 22, 2023 19:07:22 GMT -5
On the other hand, the 21st century has seen people produce their own pop culture content through the creation of memes. You probably need to be attuned to social media to get the full experience, as opposed to being exposed to it through the mainstream media, but viral content is a modern phenomenon that's just as relevant as TV commercials and whatnot becoming part of the vernacular. Some of them fade quickly, but others have legs.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 23, 2023 16:29:18 GMT -5
I think 'pop culture is fractured' is exactly right. There is too much now, btu current and past, for anything to being the cultural phenomenon that happened in the past. What song in the last 25 years has the impact of the Beatles, the 80s video starts, even the pop of 90s? What TV shows or movies have the ability to have quotes the 'I have a bad feeling about this' enter general use in the in this century? Eh, I think that comes from being distanced agewise from the general audience of popculture(young people).I'm not going to lie, I'm a classic rock fan so I'll take the Beatles any day over just about any modern act...but the same isn't true for most people my age (36) or younger. Macklemore's "Same Love" from 2012 for instance was huge when it was released and it still resonates today due to it's pushing of acceptance of gay culture in the hip hop community and that's just off the top of my head from someone who isn't super into modern music. Same with movie lines, people say stuff like "I'm Groot", "Release the Kracken!", "May the odds be in your favor/I volunteer as tribute", "You know nothing Jon Snow" just as often as I'd quote Han Solo when I was a kid.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jan 23, 2023 21:27:25 GMT -5
see, I've never heard of most of that stuff you mentioned, and I have 3 daughters that are pop culture aged (22, 18 and 14). I mean, I know what those things are from (the quotes anyway, definitely not the song) but I've never heard them or any of their friend say them. People my age say 'Release the Kraken!' My kids say 'slay' a lot, does that count?
Maybe Rickrolling people, that's on that level I think. Maybe Minions Memes?
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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 24, 2023 11:40:05 GMT -5
When I was a kid, the person who was famous for having disappeared without a trace was Judge Crater. Now it's Jimmy Hoffa. I think people older that me knew who Judge Crater was, but to me he was just the guy who disappeared. I wonder if we've reached that point with Jimmy Hoffa - do young people today know who he was, or is he just "the guy who disappeared"?
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 24, 2023 12:08:05 GMT -5
When I was a kid, the person who was famous for having disappeared without a trace was Judge Crater. Now it's Jimmy Hoffa. I think people older that me knew who Judge Crater was, but to me he was just the guy who disappeared. I wonder if we've reached that point with Jimmy Hoffa - do young people today know who he was, or is he just the guy who disappeared? True for me as well. Judge Crater and Amelia Earhart were the two "missing persons" you always heard references to when we were rugrats. Earhart is still in the public consciousness but Crater is long forgotten (except by us old farts).
People also use to say things like "as phony as the Cardiff Giant," referring to a headline-making hoax pulled on the public late in the 19th century that only history geeks recall today. In fact, Jonah Jameson compares Spider-Man to the Cardiff Giant in an early Lee-Ditko issue of Amazing. Not sure what its contemporary equivalent is. The alien autopsy "documentary," maybe?
Cei-U! I summon the mid-morning musings!
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 24, 2023 22:00:37 GMT -5
How about the saying that so-and-so was "as queer as a three-dollar bill"?
Back when it was used,"queer" meant off or odd, hence the comparison to the non-existent three-dollar bill.
I think I remember reading it used in similar contexts, as in "That's queer," in the Hardy Boys and maybe some Golden Age comics, too.
And not too many people understand me when I say that everything's copacetic, but, man, all of my older relatives used that when I was a kid and I adopted it from them.
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Post by Cei-U! on Jan 25, 2023 6:11:37 GMT -5
My sister and I both use "copacetic," often pared down to "copa."
Cei-U! I summon the sibling shorthand!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Jan 25, 2023 9:20:21 GMT -5
Is "hot as a three dollar pistol" still used?
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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 25, 2023 11:13:39 GMT -5
How about the saying that so-and-so was "as queer as a three-dollar bill"? Back when it was used,"queer" meant off or odd, hence the comparison to the non-existent three-dollar bill. I think I remember reading it used in similar contexts, as in "That's queer," in the Hardy Boys and maybe some Golden Age comics, too. My grandparents had a copy of this book:
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 25, 2023 13:59:24 GMT -5
How about the saying that so-and-so was "as queer as a three-dollar bill"? Back when it was used,"queer" meant off or odd, hence the comparison to the non-existent three-dollar bill. I think I remember reading it used in similar contexts, as in "That's queer," in the Hardy Boys and maybe some Golden Age comics, too. My grandparents had a copy of this book: Well, now...there's nothing wrong with that!
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Post by Rob Allen on Jan 25, 2023 18:40:28 GMT -5
The new Yellow Pages arrived today. It's almost a quarter of an inch thick. People who grew up in the Internet era probably don't think about how big and how important the Yellow Pages used to be. It was indispensable.
And my wife wonders how many people know what an E-ticket ride is.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 16:00:28 GMT -5
Watching current cartoons with my kid, one reference which I'm surprised to find is still on life support is the slow-motion, "bionic man" sound when a character is doing something physically impressive.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2023 16:05:41 GMT -5
How about the saying that so-and-so was "as queer as a three-dollar bill"? Back when it was used,"queer" meant off or odd, hence the comparison to the non-existent three-dollar bill. I think I remember reading it used in similar contexts, as in "That's queer," in the Hardy Boys and maybe some Golden Age comics, too. And not too many people understand me when I say that everything's copacetic, but, man, all of my older relatives used that when I was a kid and I adopted it from them. Up next: Batman's boner! Listening to Old Time Radio, I hear plenty of "queer" to mean "odd". It makes no sense to me to say "copacetic" when there are so many synonyms which are at least half the syllables.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 27, 2023 16:53:08 GMT -5
How about the saying that so-and-so was "as queer as a three-dollar bill"? Back when it was used,"queer" meant off or odd, hence the comparison to the non-existent three-dollar bill. I think I remember reading it used in similar contexts, as in "That's queer," in the Hardy Boys and maybe some Golden Age comics, too. And not too many people understand me when I say that everything's copacetic, but, man, all of my older relatives used that when I was a kid and I adopted it from them. Up next: Batman's boner! Listening to Old Time Radio, I hear plenty of "queer" to mean "odd". It makes no sense to me to say "copacetic" when there are so many synonyms which are at least half the syllables.Much more fun to enunciate all those hard consonant sounds. And syllables create rhythm for emphasis. When I jsut want to be quick about it, I can say that everything's jake.
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