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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Jan 13, 2023 9:08:40 GMT -5
How old do you have to be to understand a reference to Fibber McGee's closet? Older than me apparently.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 13, 2023 10:41:28 GMT -5
How old do you have to be to understand a reference to Fibber McGee's closet? Older than me apparently. Don't open that door, McGee!!
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 13, 2023 10:42:10 GMT -5
How old do you have to be to understand a reference to Fibber McGee's closet? Roughly the same age as you have to be to understand The Maxwell Car.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2023 12:26:01 GMT -5
Would not getting Get Smart references in 1990-92 be a generational issue? I grew up on reruns of Get Smart and Gilligan's Island and such in the '70s, and assumed most people my age were familiar. In the marines, we had this particular piece of training equipment which never worked. By the time this system got transported to the field and setup, hours of the day would have passed already. And the darn thing never worked. Not once. Yet the higher-ups were always optimistic that it was going to work. I called it the Cone Of Silence, and nobody knew what I was talking about.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 14, 2023 23:56:24 GMT -5
How old do you have to be to understand a reference to Fibber McGee's closet? Roughly the same age as you have to be to understand The Maxwell Car. The one with the Mel Blanc engine.
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Post by Prince Hal on Jan 14, 2023 23:59:13 GMT -5
Older than me apparently. Don't open that door, McGee!! That ain't the way I heer'd it!
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Post by kirby101 on Jan 15, 2023 12:45:31 GMT -5
I think the generational thing is that people of the Boomer generation went back to look at popular culture to a generation or two before. Many of us knew movies from the silent era forward, and were familiar with old time radio shows. I think later generations were not as interested in the past. It's like when they show a dial phone or VHS machine and younger people don't know what it is. We were long past wash boards, hand crank phones and gramophones, but I could recognize them.
And the answer is, "That's great Doc, I couldn't play the Piano before."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2023 16:29:16 GMT -5
Pop culture is fractured now. I watched reruns of shows that were before my time because that was what was available on the idiot box. Today, the shows and movies of earlier generations no longer have a captive audience. In my formative years, The Beverly Hillbillies was one choice out of maybe two. Today, it's one choice out of millions. So my kid had virtually zero chance to ever hear of a see-ment pond. Same with music. My parents were much more aware of the pop music of my generation than I will ever be aware of the pop music of today. The radio in the car doesn't play anything either of us want to listen to. I don't know if there even is an analog today of what pop music was in the '80s. I'm aware that there's still boy bands, at least, but I don't think that a giant hit single is possible like it used to be - one that that takes the country by storm coast-to-coast, across generations.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 15, 2023 19:46:36 GMT -5
Pop culture is fractured now. I watched reruns of shows that were before my time because that was what was available on the idiot box. Today, the shows and movies of earlier generations no longer have a captive audience. In my formative years, The Beverly Hillbillies was one choice out of maybe two. Today, it's one choice out of millions. So my kid had virtually zero chance to ever hear of a see-ment pond. Same with music. My parents were much more aware of the pop music of my generation than I will ever be aware of the pop music of today. The radio in the car doesn't play anything either of us want to listen to. I don't know if there even is an analog today of what pop music was in the '80s. I'm aware that there's still boy bands, at least, but I don't think that a giant hit single is possible like it used to be - one that that takes the country by storm coast-to-coast, across generations. Well, also, before you had so many options, syndication packages tended to be for programming and movies at least 10-20 years old. Anything newer was either on network or wasn't likely to find a buyer, for a bit. By the 80s, with cable expansion, you could sell programs to other channels, as well as syndication, so there were more buyers of content and the production companies started putting older episodes into syndication offers, much earlier than in past. So, syndication turned into more and more recent programming and older material was more often sold to cable channels. Then, you started to get more and more narrow focused channels, with stuff like TV Land and ME TV, where they were aiming at a specific demographic. Same with movies. They used to be offered in syndication packages, but tended to be from 10-20 years or more, before. Anything newer was likely sold to the networks for broadcasting. The older the film, the more likely it was to show up in cheaper syndication packages, apart from time-honored classics. Again, with cable, the older material moved to cable channels and then into more specific themed packages, like Encore Westerns or similar. new stuff hit the movie channels first, then the networks, then syndication. Technology has changed rapidly with the introduction of micro-processors and other digital technology, which allowed for rapid research and development and deployment in consumer products. Plus, planned obsolescence meant older technology wasn't around homes as long. So, younger and younger generations are encountering the information and technology of the past the same way we did (I'm Gen X, but right near the start, while my older brother is at the end of the Baby Boomers). My grandparents had all kinds of older machines and appliances around the home (especially my paternal grandparents, who lived on a farm) which allowed us to see them work. My grandfather's tractors were hand cranked, to start, and he milked his dairy cow by hand. They had a party line, because they were in a very rural area, in southern Illinois, pretty far away from any city. Pop culture has a shorter life span, now, because of all of the choices for delivery. When you had a couple of national radio networks, you heard the same programming, aside from the regional-specific stuff. same, when television started. That remained mostly true into the 70s. From the 80s on, you get more alternatives and the pace speeds up. Look at movies. They would stick around far longer, in theaters, because the studios didn't produce as many films, in a year; plus, you had fewer theaters competing, in markets and didn't have multiplexes. Again, a lot of that changed in the 80s, as you had more independent production companies, more distributors, more theater chains, with more screens per theater. Competition increased and the drive was to have the latest movies, to draw the bigger crowds. Star Wars was held over in theaters through most of 1977 and even into 1978, in some areas. When was the last time you saw a theater market something as "held over?"
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Post by commond on Jan 15, 2023 20:16:24 GMT -5
While I agree that we were limited in our choices growing up, I have worked with a number of younger people who were heavily into Friends re-runs on Netflix. I don't think it's entirely fair to say that the younger generations are unaware of anything that happened previously. I don't always love the way the cancel culture mentality creeps into their appraisal of older shows, but those are the times we're living in. I'm also not sure it was all that impressive that in the 80s we were exposed to sitcoms from 20 years before. I'm sure there was a massive amount of popular culture that was already lost by the time TV was invented. I'm not sure we can claim to have preserved popular culture better than the current generation. Pop culture is transient and destined to fade with time, anyway.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jan 15, 2023 20:33:09 GMT -5
I lament the fact that entire shows , music genres and movies are vanishing from memory. Maybe we have too many Channels available and no one is interested in even trying reruns of Columbo or Law and Order.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Jan 15, 2023 22:05:04 GMT -5
I lament the fact that entire shows , music genres and movies are vanishing from memory. Maybe we have too many Channels available and no one is interested in even trying reruns of Columbo or Law and Order. My youngest son loves Columbo reruns. And according to him a lot of Zoomers love the show. Nobody should watch Law and Order.
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Post by EdoBosnar on Jan 16, 2023 3:53:11 GMT -5
I lament the fact that entire shows , music genres and movies are vanishing from memory. Maybe we have too many Channels available and no one is interested in even trying reruns of Columbo or Law and Order. My youngest son loves Columbo reruns. And according to him a lot of Zoomers love the show. (...) That's my understanding as well. Based on other forums in which I occasionally post, I've also learned that there are quite a few people in the late 20s through early 40s age bracket who really like Columbo.
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Post by codystarbuck on Jan 16, 2023 10:38:52 GMT -5
I wouldn't say we preserved it better in older generations; just that we had more exposure to the previous generation's pop culture, due to fewer competing things.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jan 16, 2023 16:44:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't say we preserved it better in older generations; just that we had more exposure to the previous generation's pop culture, due to fewer competing things. I don't know about that, with streaming services competing for who has the biggest inventories there is more classic tv available now than pretty much any other time and it's the youth that consume most of that digital media and they in turn repackage it as there own. In the same way that the early internet meme sites of the 90's like Yourethemannowdog used clips from old movies in humorous ways Tiktok is chok full of clips from classic tv and films and there's a whole subgenre of entertainment based around discovering old gems for the first time and live watching them with others. The examples being posted here are just things that haven't been picked up(yet any way) by later generations and that's not something new, that's always happening. Some phrases and fads retain a certain sense of permanence while others fade away after a time.
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