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Post by hondobrode on Nov 13, 2014 2:05:02 GMT -5
Speaking of Valiant, another smaller superhero universe is pretty darned good as well, Dark Horse's Comics Greatest World now retitled Project : Black Sky. I'm behind on these as well but have really liked what I've read including   and  Big fan of Ghost but haven't read the latest version yet. Haven't read the Victories or Dream Thief either. I know DH is going to stick with these characters but they get almost zero press or buzz. |
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Post by midnighthour on Nov 13, 2014 18:56:04 GMT -5
I am. Since I dropped collecting DC and was already collecting X, & noticing the little P.B.S. emblem on the cover, did some research and discovered that Dark Horse was creating a Shared World. I was overjoyed! So I decided to get the other titles and was not disappointed. I liked it so much I created a Facebook Fan Page and gearing to start my next project inspired by this Shared World. Feel Free join the group & help spread the word  www.facebook.com/groups/ProjectBlackSky/ |
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Post by midnighthour on Nov 13, 2014 19:02:00 GMT -5
Also, the Victories & Dream Thief are not sharing the same world.
So far, this is the roll call;
~BLACKOUT
~BRAIN BOY
~CAPTAIN MIDNIGHT
~GHOST
~THE OCCULTIST
~SKYMAN
~X
~King Tiger
and soon to appear are ~The Mark & ~Barb Wire.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 19:59:06 GMT -5
I read DeConnick's Ghost run(s?), but wasn't interested enough in the character to stay on for the new team.
Didn't realize this line had started/Ghost was part of it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:46:52 GMT -5
Read Captain Midnight from the 0 issue until issue 6 or 8 or so, and for me each issue got progressively worse, was underwhelmed by Brain Boy and never finished reading the initial mini. After that, decided not to try any more as it just wasn't for me. I do have the first DeConnick Ghost trade that I picked up for $5 at a show, but it is buried somewhere in my to read piles.
-M
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Post by Action Ace on Nov 13, 2014 22:13:49 GMT -5
I might pick up the back issues of Captain Midnight, Skyman and Brain Boy at my local shop if the price is right.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 14, 2014 11:51:44 GMT -5
Also, the Victories & Dream Thief are not sharing the same world. So far, this is the roll call; ~BLACKOUT ~BRAIN BOY ~CAPTAIN MIDNIGHT ~GHOST ~THE OCCULTIST ~SKYMAN ~X ~King Tiger and soon to appear are ~The Mark & ~Barb Wire. I've liked Skyman, despite sounding kind of lame. Is it the Mark or the Mask ? Love King Tiger ! Looking forward to reading his return along with Barb Wire. Next character I'd like to see would be Hero Zero. |
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 14, 2014 11:54:24 GMT -5
Read Captain Midnight from the 0 issue until issue 6 or 8 or so, and for me each issue got progressively worse, was underwhelmed by Brain Boy and never finished reading the initial mini. After that, decided not to try any more as it just wasn't for me. I do have the first DeConnick Ghost trade that I picked up for $5 at a show, but it is buried somewhere in my to read piles. -M The only hero series at DH I haven't liked was The Answer. It started off well and ended weakly IMO. Disappointed there, but otherwise happy with DH's heroes. After finishing up my Doom Patrol re-reading it's off to DH, then Dynamite, and then Valiant. |
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Post by midnighthour on Nov 14, 2014 17:22:21 GMT -5
Is it the Mark or the Mask ? Love King Tiger ! Looking forward to reading his return along with Barb Wire. Next character I'd like to see would be Hero Zero. It's the Mark. they only left "hints" about it but I figured it out. Also, King Tiger has already made his appearance as a backup story in the Blackout miniseries.   |
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 14, 2014 19:10:01 GMT -5
I wasn't sure. I remember that name from way back.
Thanks for the clarification.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Nov 24, 2014 23:02:39 GMT -5
I liked captain midnight and skyman but when the whole blacksky event really started to grow it to be too much for me as I didn't want to follow anything else to enjoy the story.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2014 23:12:22 GMT -5
I liked captain midnight and skyman but when the whole blacksky event really started to grow it to be too much for me as I didn't want to follow anything else to enjoy the story. Exactly. Publishers keep trying to make reading their stuff an all or nothing proposition, and given that choice, I am going to choose nothing every time. I'm ok with a buffet, picking and choosing what I want to read based on what I enjoy, but if you are going to try to structure your line so I have to read all of it to read any of it...buh bye! I'll gladly give someone else my money. -M |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 1:32:33 GMT -5
Sad to say, that my Comic Book Store carry a very limited supply of Dark Horse Comics and because of that I've started reading Ghost, Captain Midnight, and Skyman and the stories did not hold much interest and that's alone made me stop reading Dark Horse altogether. Now, my Comic Book Store is thinking of liquidating Dark Horse Comics because he's losing monies on these books. Sorry about that.
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Post by hondobrode on Nov 30, 2014 2:51:44 GMT -5
I'm not doubting you, but that's pretty poor business decision I'd say.
Hard to believe that people don't want Dark Horse.
Is the product failing or the service ?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2014 4:44:50 GMT -5
In our shop, the Dark Horse Hero lines has a grand total of zero pulls for the entire line. Buffy and Angel are the best selling Dark Horse titles in our shop now that the Star Wars line is done. Halo and Mass Effect also sell decently. We have one guy getting DHP. That's about it. Our customer base general reaction is that they don't want "fake super-heroes" if they are going to get super-hero comics they want the real thing (i.e. Marvel & DC). Non-super-hero indies do ok, but non-Marvel/DC super-hero books are pretty much down to pull order only ordering because they just don't sell for us, not even when we put them in the dollar bins 6 months or so after they are released. Not even Occultist sells by Tim Seeley, and because Tim was guest of honor at the first 2 Champion City Comic Cons and did store appearance, he has a pretty hardcore fan base at the store-we can sell a lot of Hack and Slash (and constantly have to reorder trade collections of it)and other Seeley stuff, but Occultist gets wrapped up with the fake/cheap imitation super-hero mentality of our customer base that they wouldn't read if you gave them the books for free. Valiant gets the same reaction in our shop too. We have 1 guy who pulls the whole Valiant line, one guy who got Harbinger and Unity and one guy who samples the books each month. No one else has picked up a copy. Not even the $1 intro issues Valiant did that we got in to promote the line. Invincible Spawn and Savage Dragon gt the same reaction. We have 1 pull for Spawn, 0 for Savage Dragon and had 1 guy in 5 years buy Invincible, but he moved a year ago and we haven't moved an issue since. If we get a customer who wants to add them to a pull or even tells us he wants to pick them up off the shelf, we would order them in (we like books that sell not matter who puts them out, the genre, or the creative team), but they don't sell for us and if we go three months without a selling a copy of a book we stop ordering it until such a time someone asks us to carry it again.
Our shop may not be typical, but it's not unique either. Small shops have to know what their clientele will buy and order accordingly. There are too many books to carry them all and many are bad risks based on your clientele. The cut off line for making a profit is 80% sell through. So if we order 5 copies of a book, we need to sell 4 before anything sold is profit because of overhead and margins. Anything we can't sell 4 of we can only order as many copies as sell exactly or we make no money on the book. So unless we know it will sell, we don't order a book. And that includes all of the Dark Horse hero line. We tried. X and Ghost sold copie sof #1, but #2, 3, 4 didn't move any copies, so they were done, Capt. Midnight made it to issue 6 before we dropped it, as someone tried 0,1, and 2 (3 sat unpicked up in a file on that customer who just stopped coming in). Occultist didn't sell at all. After that, we stopped ordering in new series if we didn't have a pre-order on #1. We haven't gotten a single pre-order.... No sense in throwing good money after bad supporting a line that doesn't move in our shop.
-M
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