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Post by sunofdarkchild on Mar 19, 2023 7:23:22 GMT -5
I was born in the 90s. Overall I think the 80s were better in terms of the quality of the comics than the 90s were, but that's mostly because of Marvel. My favorite DC runs are mostly from the 90s, Trianlg-era Superman, Pad's Supergirl, Dixon's Batman and Robin runs, and Morrison's JLA. On the other hand this is where Marvel took the comics and characters whose 80s runs I love and ruined them so that I have interest in anything they do post 1995. Iron Man is the worst offender. If I was half as interested in the character after what they did to him in the 90s as I was the first time I read the 80s Iron Man comics I'd be obsessed with every new armor they make for him and be constantly comparing the specs to his older armors. Instead I just don't care. X-Men had Age of Apocalypse but was otherwise much worse after Bob Haras became the editor and forced Claremont out. Spider-Man had the awful Clone Saga.
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Post by codystarbuck on Mar 19, 2023 11:15:33 GMT -5
I was born in the 90s. Overall I think the 80s were better in terms of the quality of the comics than the 90s were, but that's mostly because of Marvel. My favorite DC runs are mostly from the 90s, Trianlg-era Superman, Pad's Supergirl, Dixon's Batman and Robin runs, and Morrison's JLA. On the other hand this is where Marvel took the comics and characters whose 80s runs I love and ruined them so that I have interest in anything they do post 1995. Iron Man is the worst offender. If I was half as interested in the character after what they did to him in the 90s as I was the first time I read the 80s Iron Man comics I'd be obsessed with every new armor they make for him and be constantly comparing the specs to his older armors. Instead I just don't care. X-Men had Age of Apocalypse but was otherwise much worse after Bob Haras became the editor and forced Claremont out. Spider-Man had the awful Clone Saga. Kirby, I feel old!
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Post by arfetto on Apr 4, 2023 11:57:58 GMT -5
Today the '90s comic I read was:
Gen13 issue 8 (1996).
Campbell returns to the art which is great, but I wish the paper quality was a bit better so the interior colors would pop more.
Overall this issue was more enjoyable than the last one in large part due to the return of Campbell, but the story here is disjointed.
This issue flips between different points in time ("Then" and "Now"). The "Now" scenes have the Gen Kids battling some "Carnival"-esque opponents while searching for Fairchild in "The Big Top". The "Then" scenes mostly depict Freefall worrying about the Trent Reznor-looking guy she met back in issue one of this ongoing series. She has been having nightmares involving him lately.
The back-and-forth is fine except it never flips back to the "Then" in which the Gen-Actives end up in their "Now" predicament. I am going to guess this will be shown in the next issue instead, but it would have been more elegant if the "Fairchild being kidnapped scene" was actually shown before this issue was over, so that the scene where an evil Fairchild attacks Lynch would have probably had more impact.
Oh, and this seems to be the first full appearance of the DV8 team fully-costumed and code-named.
As a '90s trivia note, there is a mention in this issue that the editor of Gen13 will be appearing on MTV's "The Real World". So set your VCRs.
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 4, 2023 20:19:25 GMT -5
Today the '90s comic I read was:
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As a '90s trivia note, there is a mention in this issue that the editor of Gen13 will be appearing on MTV's "The Real World". So set your VCRs.
That would have been Miami, I think. I caught part of an episode of the first season and wondered why they were wasting time on 20-somethings whining. As it turns out, I was older than the oldest cast member, and a naval officer, so this show had little to offer me. I did catch part of the second season, on a marathon, when there wasn't anything better on and did watch the third, when they aired a marathon, after Pedro Zamora died. Leaving the age thing behind (27 was the cut off to be on the show), I couldn't see how anyone could identify with a bunch of people, living rent free, in a nice house, and spent their time whining about their lives. It also seemed like they played to the cameras and then I came across an article, written by the Irish guy, Dominic, from the second season, where he talked about the very thing. Little did I know that it would end up looking like quality programming, compared to what followed. I did read Judd Winick's graphic novel, Pedro & Me, about his time there and how Pedro affected his life (Judd roomed with him and got to be close friends). He said when they first got everyone together, they were told that one of them had AIDS, but they all thought it was Puck, because he was so skinny and had multiple scabs and things. As Winnick put it, "..turns out, he just fell down a lot."
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Post by wildfire2099 on Apr 5, 2023 6:48:58 GMT -5
my wife watched the first couple seasons of the real world.. the ones that seemed actually real (according to her) rather than now where its reality TV. She watched the 1st season, and I definitely remember this guy that thought he was a wrestler.... who would have thought then Miz would still be around?
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 5, 2023 10:55:35 GMT -5
my wife watched the first couple seasons of the real world.. the ones that seemed actually real (according to her) rather than now where its reality TV. She watched the 1st season, and I definitely remember this guy that thought he was a wrestler.... who would have thought then Miz would still be around? I did watch the reunion special, where they mixed members of the 3 casts (the London one was being broadcast) and a luncheon and the female rapper, from the first season, calls out Tammy, from the second season for coming across as fake, as well as the whole show. Her criticism was valid that the first season people had no idea what they were in for (there was a pilot, with a separate group, but not aired); whereas from the second on, they had the previous season to reference. Of course, you had more and more people who were looking for show biz careers, which means they are going to be "auditioning," no matter what. I was amused when they started adding gimmicks to get them out of the house and do something, after the second season folks seemed to lay around a lot, except for the kid going to school (Adam?) and Dominic, who had a job. Well, and the sheriff's deputy (or was she a bailiff?) who got married, though you rarely saw her around, except when they wanted to show the country boy mooning over her. They put out a reference book, to coincide with that reunion special, which we got, at Barnes & Noble. I flipped through it. Dominic and Adam (?) refused to participate and their photos were not included in the cast bios, though their information was. Guess they didn't have the right to use photos of them not taken from footage. Dominic's article was rather savage, as he pointed out the episode where he is passed out on the beach, that several others were drunk, too, but they edited him in, specifically, to make a story of him having a drinking problem. He brought up that the country kid knew every profane lyric to popular rap songs; but, when the cameras were on, he was Mr Naive Christian Boy. The one called Beth The Drama Queen was an aspiring actress and played heavily to the cameras. They were sitting around late one night and decided to bake cookies and the crew decided it would make for interesting filming and Beth tore upstairs to put on make-up (though I can understand that). Funny enough, I was just watching the Clerks cartoon, where they do a Real World reference, as Dante talks about how Randall got them kicked off the Real World by acting like a jerk and referring to himself in the third person. Pinky & the Brain did a spoof, where Brain is using their equipment to broadcast mind-control waves, or something.
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Post by arfetto on Apr 6, 2023 13:22:26 GMT -5
I have never seen an episode of The Real World (my television station channel was very limited growing up, never had MTV). It is interesting that some comic-related people were involved with it though.
Inspired by today's poll on the front page, today the '90s comic I read was
Thunderstrike issue 6 (1994) by DeFalco, Frenz, Milgrom and others.
Last issue, Thunderstrike, Spider-Man and a member of Code: Blue hitched a ride on a S.H.I.E.L.D. helicarrier (without paying the fare) to rescue Mary Jane and the other Code: Blue members being held there. Unfortunately for our heroes, the Mandroids stationed on the carrier take umbrage with this action. Fortunately for our heroes, leader of the charge, Eric Masterson (Code: Thunderstrike), has a plan.
Masterson tries to reason with the Mandroids, explaining that his intent was to cause a big enough scene for Fury to take notice and meet with him so they could negotiate about the captives...and also perhaps, learn something about the mysterious "Tantalus" related to serial-killer Pandara from the prior issue. Things go awry when one of the Mandroids breaks Masterson's head-strapped mini-cam, and things go even awry-er when Stellaris, Thunderstrike's space-stalker (who first appeared 4 years earlier in the DeFalco/Frenz Thor run) shows up to save the day (aka "beat people up").
Stellaris had been helping out Masterson from afar since issue one whenever he's been in a tight spot, solving one mystery (though this one was pretty obvious if you had read the Thor issues). The mystery of "Blackwulf" is also revealed in this issue.
Revealed in the sense that he finally appears on panel, but he is wearing a mask so his identity is still unrevealed, as are his motivations. But hey, at least he's shown up now instead of just being on characters' tongues.
The bulk of the issue is action-oriented (despite Masterson's best efforts), but that action moves the plot along nicely. Thunderstrike, Spider-Man and Code: Blue take on some minions of Tantalus and are assisted by Blackwulf, S.H.I.E.L.D. releases Mary Jane and the others on the condition Code: Blue keeps their noses out of the Tantalus "secret war" scenario (of course this won't happen), and serial killer Pandara is gift-wrapped (literally) to the police.
An enjoyable little issue, even with it being the first appearance of a supervillain codenamed "Schizo" haha, or maybe I was just in a good mood while reading. It's nothing that a person needs to go out of their way to read, but there are certainly much worse comics to spend time with. If you see it lying around, maybe pull a Masterson and surrender...to the urge to read a '90s street-level knock-off Thor comic.
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Post by adamwarlock2099 on Apr 6, 2023 14:18:36 GMT -5
Of Thunderstrike I read the first 4-5 issues. I didn't dislike it but I didn't really find it all that interesting and then never picked up any of the issues since. I only started it for the Ron Frenz art since he didn't seem to cop the Image style that was present in a lot of artists in the 90's other than actual Image artists.
I did like Blackwulf's own title for it's short lived life. But then I like Angel Medina's art. It wasn't a hugely epic or anything. Just a fun space action comic that really accepted what it was and didn't try to be anything else. I would be interested to see what you think about it if you read it.
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Post by arfetto on Apr 6, 2023 14:45:24 GMT -5
I will try to read Blackwulf for this thread (I have all the issues), maybe after I finish Thuderstrike. I am also a fan of Angel Medina's art, especially his work on Warlock and the Infinity Watch. Those first issues were formative to my comic reading experience. Not sure how many times I've re-read the first ten or so. I can picture Medina's rendition of Thanos eating the "Thanos butterfly" in my head now.
I like his Spawn work too (I actually prefer Medina and Capullo to McFarlane when it comes to penciling the Spawn comic...though I admit I do not enjoy the story of Spawn much, I have still read quite a few issues mainly to look at the art and hope for another hook beyond that).
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Post by codystarbuck on Apr 6, 2023 20:44:06 GMT -5
Did Thunderstrike join a biker gang? Does his Harley only have two goat-power?
Back to the Real World; I'm surprised no one jumped on that for some kind of comic story or parody. They jumped on every other pop culture thing.
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