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Post by Cei-U! on Dec 15, 2022 7:21:00 GMT -5
There seemed to be an unspoken dictum at both Marvel and DC in the 1960s that every super-hero team had to have a villainous counterpart: The Frightful Four, The Brotherhood of Evil, etc., etc. As Prince Hal demonstrated yesterday, even Tomahawk's Rangers weren't immune to this syndrome. So it was perhaps inevitable that the Challengers of the Unknown, too, would square off against such a group, which is what brings us to 10. The League of Challenger-Haters
Yeah, the name is ridiculous but the team itself is pretty darn impressive: the super-scientist Drabny, the extraterrestrial robot Kra, the monstrous Volcano Man, and its leader, Duncan Bramble a.k.a. the multi-powered Multi-Man. Created by Ed “France” Herron and Bob Brown and debuting in Challengers of the Unknown #42 (February-March 1965), this powerful quartet, on paper at least, should've squashed the non-powered Challs like bugs. They didn't, of course, not in that first go-round, nor in any of their four subsequent appearances, not even after being joined by the gigantic android Multi-Woman. So why are they my pick? It's not nostalgia—I never read Challengers as a kid—and it ceratinly isn't for their team name. Perhaps it's because I'm naturally drawn to this kind of Silver Age silliness or perhaps I'm drawn to their unrealized potential. Either way, here they are and I make no apologies for it. Cei-U! I summon my total lack of regret!
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Post by shaxper on Dec 15, 2022 7:26:25 GMT -5
10. Every Groo Villain EverOccurred in Sergio Aragones' Groo The Wanderer (Marvel) #35 (January 1988) By Sergio Aragones Look, as entertaining and talented as Sergio Aragones is, Groo stories tend to run together pretty forgettably. However, one thing Groo absolutely has going for it is very memorable antagonists. Giving them a story where Groo wishes them all into the same room with god-like powers, only to ultimately drown them in cheese dip, was pretty much the best thing ever. The sheer amount of personality Aragones packs into those panels as each of these totally different characters finds an instant commonality in hating and fearing Groo... Classic.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 8:12:29 GMT -5
10. Dark Judges (2000 AD, debuted in 1980)They can’t be reasoned with, bargained with, negotiated with, etc. You cannot appeal to their egotistical, cold and emotionless natures. But that’s enough about UK politicians… Judge Death, born a human (or so he claims), struck a bargain with some witches, and hooked up with some undead judges from a parallel Earth called Deadworld. Possessing demonic powers, they made their way to Judge Dredd’s world - where they decreed that since it’s the living that commit crimes, then life itself should be a crime. Naturally, this brought them into conflict with Dredd. Led by Judge Death, the entities are Mortis, Fear and Fire. What makes these entities formidable foes is the fact that they cannot be killed, only contained, hence they are one of only a small number of recurring villains in Dredd’s universe, with most of Dredd’s antagonists ending up dead or in jail. Hence, such an unstoppable force of nature has to be on my list. Here they are:
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 15, 2022 8:20:40 GMT -5
10. Super-Axisfirst appearance: Invaders #38 (#41 in their full complement) line-up: Lady Lotus, U-man, Baron Blood, Warrior Woman and Master Man ( this image is from the much later story, Forever Allies) Although I liked the concept of the Invaders, I only sporadically read it for most of its run (I think a big factor was the pretty wonky art by Frank Robbins). But then at around issue no. 35 or 36 – after Alan Kupperberg had become the main artist (and Don Glut took over the scripting from Roy Thomas) – I started picking it up regularly, and to the young me back in 1979 it seemed to really kick into gear with issue no. 38. That was when the beguiling but nefarious Lady Lotus enlisted the aid of the renegade Atlantean U-man in a long-running scheme to take down those pesky Invaders once and for all. Soon the vile Baron Blood came aboard, and then finally the uber-Nazis Warrior Woman and Master Man joined the fold for a big showdown in what – to my regret back then – ended up being the last issue of the series. But it was a great story and an ideal finale – I especially liked the key role played by Sub-mariner taking them down. Anyway, I re-read those last four issues quite a bit back then, and they left quite an impression on me, because even though I haven’t read that story since probably early 1980s, I still thought of these guys as one of my favorite instances of super-villains joining forces.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 15, 2022 8:22:05 GMT -5
#10- B.A.D. Girls IncBlack Mamba, Asp and Diamondback make up B.A.D. Girls Inc. Spinning off from the Serpent Society (who I had on my list but dropped), back when Diamondback was secretly dating Captain America in the 1990s, the Society learned of this and made an attempt to assassinate her. Fellow members Black Mamba and Asp came to her aid, escaping the clutches of them and became their own group of mercenaries. Breaking the law, making cash and becoming guns for hire by any criminal organization. When Fabian Nicieza began writing Cable/Deadpool in the 2000s, many killers and mercs were brought in to make their adventures more bonkers than usual. B.A.D. Girls were brought in and made me smile as I forgot how much I liked the Serpent Society, but only some members. Yeah, they're the ladies of the group but they made for fun reading.
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Post by foxley on Dec 15, 2022 8:25:26 GMT -5
Because the female of the species is more deadly than the male... 10. Circe's villainesses Wonder Woman #174-175 (2001) Similar idea to yesterday's pick, but a slightly different application. In "The Witch & the Warrior", the Earth still is repairing itself after the events of "Our Worlds at War." So naturally, the evil sorceress Circe decides to take advantage by transforming the weary male heroes of the JLA, JSA, Titans, and Young Justice into fantastic creatures that a cadre of super-villainesses will hunt down and kill! Wonder Woman must assemble a team of Earth's greatest heroines - including Power Girl, Doctor Light, Vixen, Black Canary, and Troia - to save the heroes, while she saves Superman. Despite have an editorially-decreed Joker's Last Laugh crossover inserted into it, this a fun little story. Circe's cadre includes just about every active super-villainess in the DCU. Writer Phil Jimenez has done his research and the cadre includes not only the big names like the Cheetah, Poison Ivy and Killer Frost, but really obscure characters like Demolita, and some who had not been seen for decades, like Moonbow. There were even the female villains who only ever appeared as members of teams, such as Ms. Mesmer from The Gang, and Breathtaker and Stranglehold from the Hangmen. For the curious, I have included as complete a list of the villainesses as I could compile below, and even then I might have missed a couple.
The heroines respond in kind and call in just about every super-heroine. So you get the likes Power Girl, Black Canary and Zatanna fighting alongside characters like Maya (from Justice League Europe) and Monster Girl (from Young Heroes in Love), and even the truly obscure, such as Tundra, a Russian heroine and member of the Global Guardians who had appeared only once before (Justice League Quarterly #17 for the truly curious).
The story is structured so the main story of Wonder Woman hunting Circe and battling the transformed Superman, is intercut with snippets showing the battles occurring throughout Manhattan. As usual, the heroes triumph because they are better coordinated and more cooperative than the villains.
{The (mostly) Complete list of Circe's villainesses:} Axis Azure Baby Boom Body Doubles Breathtaker Chain Lightning Cheetah Cheshire Chrysalis Cyber-Cat Death-Doll Demolitia Dervish Doctor Poison Double Dare Elemental Woman Gemini Giganta Godiva Gorgeous Gilly Harpi Hazard Hyena Jewelee Jinx Killer Frost Knockout Lady Shiva Lady Vic Lyta Magenta Magpie Mongal Moonbow Ms. Memer Mustang Suzy New Wave Nightfall Nox Penny Dreadful Pistolera Plastique Poison Ivy Rosie the Riveter Scirocco Shiv Sickle Silver Swan Stranglehold Sylph Spellbinder Tao Jones Ten of Spades Tigress Touch 'n' Go Trinity Twister Velvet Tiger Vicious Vicki Grant White Lightning White Rabbit
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Post by Confessor on Dec 15, 2022 8:41:30 GMT -5
#10 – "The Terrible Two": The White Rabbit and The WalrusAs seen in The Spectacular Spider-Man #185 (1992) Today's pick is a ridiculous one-off team-up between a walrus and a bunny rabbit (this one's for you, Icctrombone !) The White Rabbit is one of those great D-list Spider-Man villains that I love ( see also The Mindworm). Her name and look is adapted from Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland, with a dash of Playboy bunny sexiness thrown in, and she even drives around in a Bunnymobile! The Walrus is another Lewis Carroll character (this time from Alice Through the Looking-Glass), but this particular villain's costume is much more indebted to The Beatles' song "I Am the Walrus" (which itself was partially inspired by Carroll's writings, of course) and the walrus costume that John Lennon wore in the TV film Magical Mystery Tour and on the cover of the album of the same name. The motive behind this pairing of lame supervillains – who name themselves "The Terrible Two" without any hint of irony – is revenge against the equally lame Fabulous Frog-Man. They plan to lure Frog-Man into a trap by causing random mayhem and destruction with Walrus's super-strength and the Rabbit's razor-tipped exploding carrots (launched from an umbrella, no less). However, when they unleash their chaos it is Spider-Man who first appears on the scene, closely followed by Frog-Man and his father, Leap-Frog! Of course, the Rabbit and Walrus are quickly defeated by the Wall-Crawler and his froggy pals, but the joy of this pairing of supervillain losers is the tongue-in-cheek dialogue between them, courtesy of J. M. DeMatties. This really is a pretty funny comic and with villains inspired by the works of Lewis Carroll and The Beatles, what's not to like?!
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 15, 2022 8:47:33 GMT -5
10. House TaggeA long time ago, in a galaxy pretty darn close, a young boy's imagination had been fired up by the Star Wars movie. He wanted more. Alas, those were the days before videotapes and home computers; the best one could hope for after watching the film during its initial release was to get some ancillary material like the novelization or... comics. The thing is, the first Star Wars comics weren't very good, the presence of a certain green rabbit notwithstanding. In fact, they were downright bad most of the time; closer, as far as I was concerned, to Lost in Space silliness than to George Lucas' more elaborate and well-defined fantasy world. Eventually, story arcs like The Wheel got us closer to what I really wanted, but there was one important thing missing: a good villain. Oh, I understood even back then that comic writers weren't allowed to do anything significant before the eventual Star Wars sequel came out; it wouldn't do to have the status quo upset in ways that would later be contradicted. But what kind of credible threat could one use if Darth Vader wasn't available? Enter the House of Tagge. Apparently, one of the dudes at the Death Star meeting (the one where Vader infamously found someone's lack of faith disturbing) is supposed to be a certain General Cassio Tagge, even though he's not called by name in the movie. But in the comic, the House of Tagge would be built into a rich and credible threat under the pen of Archie Goodwin, providing our star warriors with a more than decent opposition. Cassio might be dead, but he had several siblings! Orman Tagge was pretty cool, as dramatic figures go; an ambitious aristocrat, blinded by Darth Vader himself, Orman got his hands on a lightsabre in a pawn shop somewhere and trained himself in its use, hoping to get revenge on his nemesis using his own weapon of choice. I love it when villains don't only take on the good guys but work against each other too! (Oh, and Orman did not go the Zatoichi way... he wore cybernetic goggles restoring his sight). One Tagge would have been good, but several was better! Rounding up the ranks are Silas, a mad scientist type who invented all sorts of things that made our heroes' life difficult; kid brother Ulric (a military type, mostly used a sa foil for Orman) and Sister Domina, who would put the moves on a naive Luke Skywalker (whom she blamed for her elder brother's demise) just to set him up for a ghastly fate. Domina was quite a shrewd strategist, as she managed to catch both Luke and Darth Vader in her trap. The Tagges represented the kind of direction I would have wanted the franchise to go after the death of the emperor in the third film; instead of starting freash with a renewed republic, I'd have liked to see powerful families commanding troops of their own and trying to preserve the imperial system. I mean, how much sense does it make for an entire political system to collapse just because oe guy dies? Alas, Marvel decided instead to go the alien invasion route. The House of Tagge, alongside Shira Bree, were contributions to the Star Wars universe that outclass anything that came after the original trilogy (and a lot that was introduced in there as well)!
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Post by commond on Dec 15, 2022 8:47:55 GMT -5
10. The Fatal FiveMy next entry comes from the adolescent imagination of Jim Shooter. Just think, when I was the same age as Jim Shooter, I was sketching shitty Rob Liefeld-inspired character designs while he was having his doodles classically designed by Curt Swan. And what a kick ass team they were. You had the Persuader with his badass axe, the sexy but deadly Emerald Empress (every schoolboy's dream), Mano with his lethal anti-matter touch, the giant Validus going apeshit all the time, and the half man, half machine Tharok, looking like some badass He-Man action figure. According to Shooter, the impetus for the creation of The Fatal Five was Mort Weisinger calling Shooter and telling him to go watch The Dirty Dozen and turn it into a Legion story. I can't imagine what it must have been like to be Jim Shooter, getting these regular Thursday calls from Weisinger after the Batman TV show, or whenever Mort needed to talk to him, then going to school the next day and having some classmate ask him what he did last night... Oh, I created the Fatal Five in a little thing I wrote about the death of Ferro Lad. Shooter insists that the Fatal Five weren't a ripoff of The Masters of Evil, but I think there's a naive teenage innocence to the fact that they're pretty much direct copies. Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind seeing Persuader and Executioner having a staring contest over a mug of ale or two. I'm sure there have been buffed up versions of The Fatal Five post-Zero Hour. I watched some WatchMojo vidoes, and read a few comic sites, researching this list, and there were all sorts of souped up versions of teams like the Injustice League, The Crime Syndicate, the Legion of Doom, and other heavy hitters. It was a giant turnoff. I did almost vote for The Legion of Supervillains, but The Fatal Five left a bigger impression on me.
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Post by commond on Dec 15, 2022 8:51:02 GMT -5
10. Dark Judges (2000 AD, debuted in 1980)They can’t be reasoned with, bargained with, negotiated with, etc. You cannot appeal to their egotistical, cold and emotionless natures. Spoiler alert, but they're going way higher for me. There aren't too many villains who I find truly scary, but The Dark Judges fit the bill.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 15, 2022 9:27:47 GMT -5
This may not be the last time we see these guys picked this year. ...the first Star Wars comics weren't very good, the presence of a certain green rabbit notwithstanding. A-thank you! A man of taste, I see.
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Post by Farrar on Dec 15, 2022 11:35:06 GMT -5
10. The Fatal Five... My next entry comes from the adolescent imagination of Jim Shooter. Just think, when I was the same age as Jim Shooter, I was sketching shitty Rob Liefeld-inspired character designs while he was having his doodles classically designed by Curt Swan. And what a kick ass team they were. You had the Persuader with his badass axe, the sexy but deadly Emerald Empress (every schoolboy's dream), Mano with his lethal anti-matter touch, the giant Validus going apeshit all the time, and the half man, half machine Tharok, looking like some badass He-Man action figure. According to Shooter, the impetus for the creation of The Fatal Five was Mort Weisinger calling Shooter and telling him to go watch The Dirty Dozen and turn it into a Legion story.... I've read this particular tidbit in many Shooter interviews too; Weisinger was well known for encouraging his writers to borrow from other sources (movies, fairy tales, books, etc.). What's also interesting is that Shooter's Fatal Five debuted in Adventure #352, which was on sale in November 1966--months before the film premiered in June 1967! However the 1965 novel was a best-seller and excerpted in magazines, etc., plus from what I understand there was a lot of pre-release publicity and information around about the making of the movie--so even without actually seeing the movie its basic premise was well-known, and on the radar of people like Weisinger and Shooter who were on the lookout for story ideas.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 15, 2022 12:02:45 GMT -5
My list is ever evolving...and now I'm trying not to have it overrun by Spider-man related teams. #10 - The Jackal and The Tarantula (Amazing Spider-Man 147-49). As I mentioned earlier, Spider-Man was second (and a close second) only to Batman in my early comic buying. I know that The Tarantula gets a lot of hate, but these books were among the first back issue I ever got (they came out very shortly before I started buying comics). I loved the storyline and I found the two villains interesting and cool when I was 9 years old. And that's really all that matters. That pic was too big. And the cover is why I really love these books.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 13:28:36 GMT -5
Injustice SocietyBack to the Golden Age again for me today. But my love for these guys started in the Bronze Age. My first Vandal Savage story was in a collection of the World's Greatest Superheroes newspaper strips, I thought his story was amazing and all the identities he's assumed over the countless years. And then Per Degaton and Brain Wave in All-Star Squadron, loved them both. Making my way to their debut above by way of the All Star Comics Archive editions (#8 specifically, great volume overall in fact), you see them in their earliest form as a team (rounded out with the Wizard, Gambler, and Thinker in addition to the 3 I mentioned). What a concept...the villains are organized, it's not just gangsters and Nazis and whatnot. And like my Monster Society of Evil from yesterday, this team has gone through various iterations over the years, as can be seen by the much expanded later roster below. Viva Earth-2!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 14:11:43 GMT -5
On the third day of Christmas, the Ghost of Christmas Villainy brought to me, another blast from my child hood past (but no apes in sight today)... Crime Master and the Big Man. This was the first issue of MTU I ever got, and what an issue-Spidey, the Torch, the Sons of the Tiger, and a host of baddies-Big Man, Crime Master and throw the Enforcers in for good measure. I really dig the criminal mastermind trope, and I would encounter these guys in various reprint books (like Marvel Tales and such) a lot during my childhood of Marvel reading, and continue to have a soft spot for them, but this was a team up of two of the big ones and the issue where it all started, so it gets the nostalgia nod for this day. (this might also explain the presence of a criminal mastermind (often masked) in most of the fantasy cities I design for my D&D campaign worlds). -M
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