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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 16, 2022 7:37:22 GMT -5
This somewhat dubious article was published in today's tabloid NY Post about a comic debuting in August
o the 96 page book will come out next month. $1,700,000 for 19,000 pre-ordered books, all done in 4 days. This means a retail price of $89.47 per copy if you believe these numbers.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 16, 2022 15:18:06 GMT -5
Looks like I goofed on the link. Here it is linkLooking at the site, the comic is priced at $35 and it seems their including the orders for other merchandise to get to the $1.7 million total |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2022 15:41:05 GMT -5
Will wait for an ebay copy at a fraction of that, if I'm interested.
I refused to buy Amazing Spidey one-shots that were $9.99 cover.....waited....and then got them for as low as $2 each in a Midtown Comics sale.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Jul 16, 2022 22:04:32 GMT -5
Looks like decent art, but doesn't sounds like writing I would enjoy, nor would I be willing to pay $35 for 4 comics worth of Material.. kinda makes it a trade, doesn't it? Or an OGN?
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Post by tartanphantom on Jul 16, 2022 23:02:16 GMT -5
We shall see. I've got a copy coming to me.
Incendentally, I've seen several comic projects on both Kickstarter and Indiegogo go for more that $35 per copy buy-in.. Recently saw a 100-page book with a buy-in at $50 for a single hardcopy. I was interested in the book but balked at the price.
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Post by Icctrombone on Jul 17, 2022 7:45:06 GMT -5
I took a quick look at the kickstarter and it is indeed 35, but it doesn't indicate if it will be available at a cheaper price in the comics stores. But all the Kickstarter campaigns are 20 and up.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 17, 2022 7:50:28 GMT -5
I don't have an opinion on the price, but man some of that guy's comments are just crazy. "To see the industry go in the direction that it’s gone kind of lights a fire under you."
Comics, especially superhero comics, have always been incredibly liberal and socially conscious. If you believe for instance that Black Panther was given that name by chance just because it sounded cool with zero thought to the connection to the social movement in the 60's then I have a bridge in New York that I'd love to sell you.
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2022 8:13:48 GMT -5
I don't have an opinion on the price, but man some of that guy's comments are just crazy. "To see the industry go in the direction that it’s gone kind of lights a fire under you." Comics, especially superhero comics, have always been incredibly liberal and socially conscious. If you believe for instance that Black Panther was given that name by chance just because it sounded cool with zero thought to the connection to the social movement in the 60's then I have a bridge in New York that I'd love to sell you. The Marvel character Black Panther was introduced in July 1966. The Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (BPP) was founded in October 1966 in Oakland, California by Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale. Do I get my choice for a bridge? |
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Post by thwhtguardian on Jul 17, 2022 8:40:00 GMT -5
I don't have an opinion on the price, but man some of that guy's comments are just crazy. "To see the industry go in the direction that it’s gone kind of lights a fire under you." Comics, especially superhero comics, have always been incredibly liberal and socially conscious. If you believe for instance that Black Panther was given that name by chance just because it sounded cool with zero thought to the connection to the social movement in the 60's then I have a bridge in New York that I'd love to sell you. The Marvel character Black Panther was introduced in July 1966. The Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (BPP) was founded in October 1966 in Oakland, California by Huey P. Newton and Bobby Seale. Do I get my choice for a bridge? I had always heard that the name was inspired by the 761st Tank Battalion the "Black Panthers" from WWII, could be apocryphal though. Either way, social justice was undeniably baked into that character:  And a black man taking down the kkk certainly doesn't seem any less like "beating the reader over the head" than Jane becoming Thor or Tim Drake coming out as bi...or whatever else is bothering right wing comic readers and creators these days. |
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Post by Ish Kabbible on Jul 17, 2022 9:25:27 GMT -5
For sure, the Black Panther character was created as a result of the Civil Rights movement and to give representation to Black Americans.
I do recall that a few years later, when the Black Panther party became known among the general public and mostly villified by mainstream media due to FBI and police spokespersons, Marvel tried to distance themselves from the BPP by renaming the character The Panther. Not sure how long it took for T'Challa to get his "Black" back
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Post by tartanphantom on Jul 17, 2022 15:42:32 GMT -5
I took a quick look at the kickstarter and it is indeed 35, but it doesn't indicate if it will be available at a cheaper price in the comics stores. But all the Kickstarter campaigns are 20 and up.
I don't think store distribution is even considered at this point; Likely it's just direct purchase like most other startup projects.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2022 17:04:53 GMT -5
I took a quick look at the kickstarter and it is indeed 35, but it doesn't indicate if it will be available at a cheaper price in the comics stores. But all the Kickstarter campaigns are 20 and up. I don't think store distribution is even considered at this point; Likely it's just direct purchase like most other startup projects.
Haven't looked at the kickstarter, as I had no interest, but was they a retailer backer level in the pledge levels? A lot of kickstarters offer one where the retailer gets multiple copies at a lower cost (but higher pledge level) in lieu of going through any distributor middleman. Some will have distribution lined up, some act as their own distributor to retailers via pledge levels like these, and some are only direct to end customer projects. No clue what this one is though. -M |
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Post by Farrar on Jul 17, 2022 21:06:41 GMT -5
For sure, the Black Panther character was created as a result of the Civil Rights movement and to give representation to Black Americans. I do recall that a few years later, when the Black Panther party became known among the general public and mostly villified by mainstream media due to FBI and police spokespersons, Marvel tried to distance themselves from the BPP by renaming the character The Panther. Not sure how long it took for T'Challa to get his "Black" backIt lasted just a couple issues. He was just called the Panther in Avengers #51-2, but by #54 the "Black" was back. Evidently a lot of readers complained right away about the omission. In response to a representative letter in #55's lettercol Marvel states the full BP name has been restored; and claims that the only reason they'd pared down his name in the first place was because there were already too many other "Black"-billed characters, specifically naming the Black Knight (Dane Whitman version, who was created a year and half after T'Challa  ); the Black Widow (at the time Natasha had given up her costumed BW identity  ); and of course the very popular and ubiquitous Black Marvel (sarcasm). Yeah right. That was in 1968. Skip ahead a few years to late 1971-1972; the BP Party was increasingly in the (US) news, making headlines, etc.; Roy Thomas has noted that during this period Stan gave orders to change the name. Remember T'Challa calling himself "The Black Leopard", in FF #119? But again, this didn't last too long; some months later in Daredevil #92 (written by Gerry Conway) T'Challa was matter-of-factly referred to as the Black Panther; and then a month later in Avengers #105 (written by Englehart, with Roy as ed.), T'Challa explains in-story why he decided to go back to using his Black Panther name. |
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); the Black Widow (at the time Natasha had given up her costumed BW identity 
); and of course the very popular and ubiquitous Black Marvel (sarcasm). Yeah right.