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Post by badwolf on May 2, 2022 9:35:02 GMT -5
Rumiko would surely make a list of top 10 manga but not overall comics for me. No to the rest (only familiar with Ito).
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Post by tarkintino on May 2, 2022 9:38:36 GMT -5
Osamu Tezuka: Astro Boy (the animated adaptation) was one of my childhood favorites and I've read manga collections, but there's no way Tezuka is a top ten of comic creators.
Kentaro Miura: no.
Junji Ito: no.
Akira Toriyama: no.
Eiichiro Oda: no.
Naoko Takeuchi: For the fact that Takeuchi brought Sailor Moon to the world is enough to keep her from ranking at any place on my overall (beyond top ten) list.
Rumiko Takahashi: no.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2022 10:15:16 GMT -5
Manga is a huge blindspot in my comics reading. The only manga I have read to any extent (i.e. a few volumes each) is Lone Wolf and Cub, Akira, At the Mountains of Madness, and the Vinland Saga, and while I like all three and want to explore more, no manga creator is going to make my top 10 due to lack of exposure on my part.
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on May 2, 2022 10:26:51 GMT -5
It's been a while. But none of the folks mentioned in that while would sniff the top ten for me. I know diddley and squat about manga.
Top Ten (Comic Books): Neil Gaiman, Alan Moore, Carl Barks, Darwyn Cooke, Warren Ellis, Will Eisner, Garth Ennis, Ed Brubaker, Wally Wood, Harvey Kurtzman
Top Ten (Comic Strips): Walt Kelly, Bill Watterson, Berke Breathed, Gary Larson, Milton Caniff, Bill Mauldin, Al Williamson, Charles Addams, Herb Block, Stan Lynde.
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Post by arfetto on May 2, 2022 10:41:11 GMT -5
Tezuka is my number one. Now that Miura has entered the contest, I am not sure whether he or Urasawa is my number 10. I will think a bit. My Ten Favorite Creators listed so far: 1. Osamu Tezuka 2. (not mentioned yet) 3. (not mentioned yet) 4. (not mentioned yet) 5. Jack Kirby 6. (not mentioned yet) 7. Jim Shooter 8. Joe Kubert 9. Kentaro Miura 10. Naoki Urasawa
Originally I had Starlin at 9, but the main thing I enjoy from Starlin is his cosmic stories and I more consistently enjoy the works of Urasawa and Miura. So in fact Starlin probably should be off the top ten now, but I do not know if I can so easily let go of the Warlock stories. It is difficult to make such a list haha.
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Post by Trevor on May 3, 2022 6:09:58 GMT -5
No new slate today as I figure out the last few days of this thing. Get ready for groups of Golden, Silver, Bronze, and Modern creators, each with the wildcard option so that everyone can reveal and comment on their entire ten as we wrap this thing up. Volunteers to write up a slate or make suggestions always welcome.
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Post by Duragizer on May 3, 2022 23:30:56 GMT -5
Paul Smith – No.
Adam Hughes – No.
Peter David – No.
Steve Engelhart – He wrote my favourite Batman run. Still, no.
Junji Ito – Might make it into my top 20, but not top 10.
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Post by Trevor on May 4, 2022 21:23:50 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Five Response and Wrap—Up
I’ve largely ignored manga until fairly recently, and know that I have a lot of great discoveries ahead of me in this “genre”.
Bought and loved Lone Wolf and Cub back when First started reprinting it here in the states, but other than that I’ve read almost nothing until the past year.
I’ve started an AstroBoy read-thru, trying to read at least 40+ pages a month. And I have a couple Junji Ito books in my bedside stack and expect to love his work.
My list remains at 9. Frank Miller Jack Kirby Carl Barks Alan Moore Mike Mignola Jeff Lemire Bernie Wrightson Matt Wagner Will Eisner
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Post by Trevor on May 4, 2022 21:35:07 GMT -5
Day Thirty-Six Choices
Ok, last five or so slates, so please help close this out with some good discussion and give your thoughts on anything Golden Age related.
Delayed post here, so this slate and wildcard will go until Friday at least. We’ve had a few Golden Age artists in previous days, but I know that trying to properly cover all the rest in one day is impossible. Any list less than dozens and dozens is going to leave important people out, and many of these worked into later Ages too. And perhaps some that you think should be here will be in the Silver Age slate. So please forgive me, and do discuss your thoughts on any mostly Golden Age creators.
Golden Age 1938 to 1956
Lou Fine was the favorite artist of many artists of his day. I loved being able to enjoy C.C. Beck’s return to Captain Marvel/Shazam and his column in the Comics Journal. Otto Binder helped create Mary Marvel, Supergirl, Kid Eternity, and Krypto to name a few. Nick Cardy did beautiful work on Aquaman and Teen Titans, and so many great covers. Jack Cole’s innovative storytelling was so ahead of it’s time, and his Plastic Man is still a joy to read. He was still going strong with great gag strips in Playboy and a daily comic strip when he mysteriously killed himself. We might not all be here without Joe Shuster and Jerry Siegel. Bill Everett created or helped create Marvel icons Namor, Zombie, and Daredevil; and is yet another who died way too young. Much can be written about Bill Finger and Bob Kane. Gardner Fox wrote so many good stories, and co-created characters such as Zatanna, Hourman, Flash, Doctor Fate, Sandman, and Barbara Gordon. He also created the frigging Multiverse! I almost bought a copy of Flash #123 today. I just learned that Ramona Fradon drew Brenda Starr for 15 years, in addition to her work at mostly DC on titles like Aquaman and Super Friends. She co-created Aqualad and Metamorpho. The storytelling of Floyd Gottfredson is better than pretty much all comics of it’s day, and many even today. Jerry Iger is another of many on this list who worked with Will Eisner. Russ Heath shouldn’t need much introduction, but he also did the art on those famous Roman and Revolutionary War toy soldier set advertisements we all grew up with on the backs of comic books. ` Joe Orlando had influential work on Creepy, Mad, EC and DC comics. He is the only artist beside Dave Gibbons with art in Watchmen. He was the editor of all the titles that made me a comic book collector; Plop, Swamp Thing, and House of Mystery. Bob Powell’s many wonderful credits include the Mars Attacks card art. Jerry Robinson co-created many of the major Batman players, unless you believe Bob Kane. He worked with Neal Adams to help secure more rights for creators. Frank Robbins created and drew the Johnny Hazard strip for over 30 years, and co-created Man-Bat, and helped launch my Plop! John Severin was one of the greatest war comics artist, was a Mad founding artist, and I loved his later stuff in Cracked. Captain Joe Simon America is so important in the super-hero genre, but also helped create the Romance comics genre, created Prez, and founded Sick.
If these are in your top ten claim them now. And if any mostly Golden Age creator is in your top ten, use a wildcard or five.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2022 22:26:26 GMT -5
My top 10 is full, so while I like and admire the work of the creators on this list, none are top 10 for me. There isn't a creator on this list who hasn't done at least something I really like and many have bodies of work I consider superb, but my ten are pretty much entrenched. My #11, who hasn't been named yet began in the golden age but is best known for his work in the 50s and isn't on the list, and since I have no spots left, I am not sure I should name them as a wild card since I won't be putting them in my top 10. But if anyone hasn't guessed, I'll give one clue, his last name rhymes with maker.
-M
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Post by EdoBosnar on May 5, 2022 2:20:34 GMT -5
So many good creators mentioned today. None of them make my top ten, but there are several in particular who rate quite highly for me: Lou Fine (such an apt surname, since he produced fine art), Jack Cole, Ramona Fradon and John Severin (who was previously - and unfairly I think - listed in the inkers category). Also, I think Joe Simon is an often overlooked and underrated creator.
The list remains: John & Sal Buscema, Alan Moore, George Perez, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Alan Brennert and Will Eisner.
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Post by Dizzy D on May 5, 2022 2:59:19 GMT -5
I never really got a chance to dive into Golden Age comics (at least American ones), but I got some collections from Dark Horse comics through Humble Bundle and some reprints here and there.
He doesn't make my Top 10, but I found Bill Everett to be one of the best artistic storytellers of that time (that I've read). There still was a lot of text describing what is going on in the pictures, but you could follow the storytelling from art alone a lot better than many of his contemporaries (there may be others that were as good or even better back then, but as I said, I only read a few of them).
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Post by commond on May 5, 2022 4:46:12 GMT -5
I imagine I will get around to the Golden Age creators eventually. It took me many years to get around to watching the Golden Age wrestlers from the same era, but once I did I was hooked. I can see the same thing happening with comics since I already enjoy film and music from the same time period.
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Post by Cei-U! on May 5, 2022 5:46:32 GMT -5
That's a whole lotta great creators, Trevor, and I enjoy all their work but only Jack Cole makes my list. Not just for Plastic Man, either. His work on Silver Streak, The Claw, The Pirate Prince, Midnight, and Dickie Dean is all fantastic. So that brings my list down to one, and since I'm fairly certain Victor Moscoso, an underground artist celebrated for his experimentation in non-narrative storytelling, isn't going to come up if I don't bring him up, he bumps George Perez out of the tenth spot. So...
Top Ten (comic books): Carl Barks, George Carlson, Jack Cole, Robert Crumb, Will Eisner, Gilbert Hernandez, Walt Kelly, Jack Kirby, Harvey Kurtzman, Victor Moscoso
Top Ten (comic strips): Milton Caniff, Roy Crane, Fred Gottfredsen, George Herriman, Walt Kelly, Gary Larson, Charles Schulz, E.C. Segar, Cliff Sterrett, Bill Watterson
Cei-U! I summon the big finish!
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Post by MDG on May 5, 2022 9:10:26 GMT -5
Lots of great folks on that list. The ones that stand out to me are Cardy and Fradon for their Silver Age work. Severin's combination of quality and longevity is hard to beat (though I wouldn't call him Golden Age).
Jack Cole was a unique talent and probably one of the GA artists whose GA work is still influential to new artists.
I love that in the bronze age, Joe Simon still had a feeling that "you can do anything in comics," while things were starting to ossify around him.
Like many people, I started out hating Frank Robbins but love his work now. Full of character and energy when left to his ow devices, horrible when forced into a house style (at Marvel). I recently saw it pointed out that Robbins was the first person to write and draw a Batman story.
I think Joe Orlando's greater contribution was as an editor, not an artist.
Two other creators who started in the Golden Age and rank high with me are Bob Oksner and Sam Glanzman, who was very close to making my top 10. I don;t know if it's been stated anywhere, but I'm almost sure Glanzman was the first creator to have a largely autobiographical series in a regular mainstream comic. The USS Stevens stories are a rare example of a sustained, personal body of work in color comics before 1980.
John Stanley was another that started in the GA but didn't make my final cut.
I've still got three openings on my list. Today, I'll mention Spain Rodriguez who started in the underground and created a large body of science fiction, fantasy, historical, biographical, and autobiographical stories.
So far: Comic Books: Jack Kirby, Steve Ditko, Xaime Hernandez, Dan Clowes, Alex Toth, Harvey Kurtzman, Charles Burns, Spain Rodriguez
Comic Strips: Bill Watterson, Milton Caniff, Charles Schulz, Alex Raymond, George Herriman, Chester Gould, Roy Crane, Cliff Sterrett, Frank King, Ernie Bushmiller
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