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Post by james on Sept 6, 2021 19:32:34 GMT -5
Anyone else tired of people explaining the MARVEL and DC HISTORY to them when all they’ve ever seen are the movies and tv series? Sorry for sounding so stuck up but I just had to vent. My sister finished Gotham and was raving about it. I explained the comic Victor Zsasz to her and she was Not even remotely interested.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 6, 2021 19:35:01 GMT -5
I usually have people who don't read comics ask me to explain.
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Post by james on Sept 6, 2021 19:36:36 GMT -5
I usually have people who don't read comics ask me to explain. I try to explain to my sister and my fiancée and they just have no interest. I always say I was a nerd before it was cool.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 6, 2021 21:08:49 GMT -5
I just figure it's probably how diehard Golden Age fans felt in the 1960s.
Our day is past. It's another generation's turn now.
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Post by profh0011 on Sept 6, 2021 22:35:50 GMT -5
After decades of being obsessed with James Bond movies, these days I find myself thinking and talking about Ian Fleming's novels more.
Earlier today, I was just describing to someone how the Production Code censorship of the late 1930s caused RKO to have to SERIOUSLY tone down "THE SAINT IN NEW YORK", when they stupidly decided to film Leslie's Charteris' MOST VIOLENT book as the first of their SAINT film series.
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Post by profh0011 on Sept 6, 2021 22:39:58 GMT -5
Never mind films... Marvel & DC have so regularly and relentlessly RE-WRITTEN so many of their characters' histories, whenever I think or talk about them, I usually stick to stories from the first 5 or so years of any given character's existence. After that, they tend to get screwed up by too many revolving-door creative teams.
If I had the money and time (and storage space) to be buying new comics regularly these days, I would absolutely be buying anything but Marvel or DC.
As it it, in ther last 6 years, I got my hands on 3 whole magazines short boxes' worth of Edgar Allan Poe comics, from all around the world. You'd never imagine there were so many!
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Post by brutalis on Sept 6, 2021 23:42:47 GMT -5
Have a few friends who like the Narvel/DC movies or TV shows who used to ask me about the comics and I quickly cut that off. The differences make it impossible to try and explain or discuss. Don't have the time or energy to explain comic book stuff to folks who won't even pick up and read a comic. I can't explain to them how much better the comic book's are or how or why Hollywood chose to do this or that or change something from the comic.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 7, 2021 10:50:21 GMT -5
I don't see how their understanding of Marvel or DC history via movies or TV is any less valid than what may have happened in the funnybooks. Beyond the fact that they're different media it's not as if their is (or really can be) any consistency in comics when you're talking about characters that are 60-80 years old.
I'm fine with people liking what they like.
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Post by Graphic Autist on Sept 7, 2021 11:20:48 GMT -5
The movies never get it right. Even the good ones.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 7, 2021 11:27:21 GMT -5
The movies never get it right. Even the good ones. What is the "it" that they never get right?
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Post by badwolf on Sept 7, 2021 11:31:58 GMT -5
When we were watching Joker my brother-in-law asked me if it was based on any comic. At first I said no but when I read the credits I realized that it did draw some elements from The Killing Joke.
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 7, 2021 12:18:04 GMT -5
When we were watching Joker my brother-in-law asked me if it was based on any comic. At first I said no but when I read the credits I realized that it did draw some elements from The Killing Joke. I don't see any of that. Joker to me was a movie about a psychopathic Birthday Clown that they shoe horned into The Joker because it had recognition. It really had nothing to do with the DC comics. (Yeah, they made it Gotham and added the Waynes, but that was peripheral.)
What part of The Killing Joke was in the movie?
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Post by kirby101 on Sept 7, 2021 12:21:37 GMT -5
I stopped reading a lot of Marvel and DC by the end of the 90s, and completely by the 00S. So when asked about the comics re: the movies I can only reference the earlier books. But even stories taken directly from the Silver and Bronze Ages are so changed that giving people explanations based on the comics doesn't work for the movies. And of course trying to tell people something using comic book logic and science can be fruitless.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2021 12:23:21 GMT -5
Anyone else tired of people explaining the MARVEL and DC HISTORY to them when all they’ve ever seen are the movies and tv series? Sorry for sounding so stuck up but I just had to vent. My sister finished Gotham and was raving about it. I explained the comic Victor Zsasz to her and she was Not even remotely interested.
Yes....especially when they're trying to flirt and feel the need to go into their reservoirs of knowledge to strike up a convo.
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Post by Graphic Autist on Sept 7, 2021 12:52:34 GMT -5
The movies never get it right. Even the good ones. What is the "it" that they never get right? Am I required to cite every example? I was pretty sure everyone would get what I mean...some element of the character is off...whether it be origin, look or how a character's power works. I basically can't watch Raimi's Spider-Man movies. Peter having organic webs just ruins it for me. "It" meaning Raimi's Spider-Man.
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