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Post by james on Sept 6, 2021 11:18:24 GMT -5
I thought about this as I looked through EBay and saw a .5 Spiderman annual 1 for 935.00 with 17 people watching it. Just insane to me. You’re about to buy a comic that is a key issue. What defects are you willing to accept to have that issue? I figure for this exercise let’s not include the classics( Action Comics 1, Amazing Fantasy 15 etc.) I think anyone would take a cover less AC 1. For me It would be Avengers 57. I’d probably go to about a 3.0.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 11:54:24 GMT -5
My standard is complete and readable. I might even accept something missing (coupon, page, etc.) if it did not interrupt the stories in the issue if it is a pricey key that makes it more affordable on my limited budget.
-M
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Sept 6, 2021 14:20:04 GMT -5
Not very far because I don't care about owning "keys" or comics in general. I'd prefer to read a reprint and have that money available to buy other stuff. Maybe that's actually even farther.
I do draw a line at water damage for any paper. Nothing smells worse than water damaged paper produts.
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Post by Icctrombone on Sept 6, 2021 14:27:34 GMT -5
Years ago I bought an Avengers #5 on eBay and discovered it was missing a non story page. I contacted the seller and we agreed on a refund of 5 dollars.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 15:08:37 GMT -5
Not keen on anything that's too tatty.
If it's a really expensive KEY...I'd go 2.0 minimum....and it will be slabbed to prevent further deterioration.
I bypass books with missing pages, coupons, Marvel Value Stamps etc, subscription folds or excessive folds/creases and anything with an unsightly stain.
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 6, 2021 16:57:51 GMT -5
For 900 bucks, the comic would have to be a Kirby original, complete with cigar ash sprinkled on it.
I was mad at myself for paying $100 for a copy of Exciting Comics #10, with the first appearance of the Black Terror, at a Heroes Con. For that one comic, I could have bought about 5 other Golden Age books, a a whole stack of Silver Age comics, or a box of Bronze Age material. Or, I could have made an extra car payment. Story wasn't that great, either. I later got the best stuff from AC Comics, in their Golden Age men of Mystery series, where they reprinted the Jerry Robinson and Mort Meskin stories. Those collections ran $6.95.
I grew up with too little spending money to ever spend that kind of cash on anything that wasn't a necessity. Even in my collecting days, $30 for a single comic was pretty much the upper limit and that was for 40 year old material. I rarely paid more than $10 for anything published in my lifetime, no matter how historical it was. Besides, I'm a story guy and I can get reprints of that and other stories, for a hell of a lot less.
.5 and 3.0 have less meaning for me than Good and Very Fine. Does it have a cover? Are the pages all there? Did anyone draw mustache's on the love interest? That's about it for me, other than I'm not going to pay Very Fine prices for a dog eared copy and have walked out of shops, without buying, that had that kind of pricing. Anything in my collection that was older than 20 years and was in higher than mid-grade condition was probably blind luck.
Grading systems have always been a joke, to me, as it all boils down to a subjective opinion. the difference is that now they assign a numerical value to that opinion, but that still doesn't mean you wouldn't get 3 different grades from 3 different "experts." I look at it in simple economic terms: it is worth whatever the buyer is willing to pay and the seller is willing to accept and there is no more science to it than that.
Bagging and boarding I got, to a certain extent, to preserve your comics for re-reading (or, at least, my comics); but, slabbing is just insanity, to me. Sealing a book or comic in plastic so it can be looked at, but not read, makes even less sense than never removing the toy from the box to play with it. I've just never been that kind of collector.
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Post by brutalis on Sept 6, 2021 18:13:47 GMT -5
Officially in the grumpy old man syndrome as OUTRAGEOUS pricing doesn't provide me comic book satisfaction. Willing to spend up to $5 for the classics with bends, rips, tear and yellowing pages if it is the full COMPLETE issue. Reprints in single or trade are just as fine. Even been delving into digital. CUZ MY COMICS ARE FOR ENJOYING THE PLEASURE OF READING THEM!
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Post by james on Sept 6, 2021 20:06:53 GMT -5
Not keen on anything that's too tatty.
If it's a really expensive KEY...I'd go 2.0 minimum....and it will be slabbed to prevent further deterioration.
I bypass books with missing pages, coupons, Marvel Value Stamps etc, subscription folds or excessive folds/creases and anything with an unsightly stain.
You know that’s a really good point I never thought of. Slabbed to keep from further deterioration.
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Post by james on Sept 6, 2021 20:09:35 GMT -5
Not very far because I don't care about owning "keys" or comics in general. I'd prefer to read a reprint and have that money available to buy other stuff. Maybe that's actually even farther. I do draw a line at water damage for any paper. Nothing smells worse than water damaged paper produts. I too draw the line at water damage. Also large rips in cover or interior pages
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Post by tarkintino on Sept 6, 2021 20:40:52 GMT -5
I thought about this as I looked through EBay and saw a .5 Spiderman annual 1 for 935.00 with 17 people watching it. Just insane to me. You’re about to buy a comic that is a key issue. What defects are you willing to accept to have that issue? I figure for this exercise let’s not include the classics( Action Comics 1, Amazing Fantasy 15 etc.) I think anyone would take a cover less AC 1. For me It would be Avengers 57. I’d probably go to about a 3.0. It really depends on what the individual issue means to you; over my decades of collecting, I placed certain issues or titles on the level of paying somewhere in the neighborhood of top dollar if it was NM or above not only for the love of the issue, but its historical importance to me (and I do not collect for the purpose of re-selling). To preserve those special issues, I've collected as many reprints as possible (if possible, as some non-Big Two companies never had titles collected), and still enjoy the overall experience with my comics.
Of course, i'm no Daddy Warbucks, so there are some comics I will never be able to buy, but I'm fine with that, and reprints of the bank-busting issues.
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Post by shaxper on Sept 6, 2021 21:10:44 GMT -5
Detached page or cover is my uncrossable line. I don't mind lousy condition so long as the entire book is intact and readable.
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