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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 12, 2021 8:09:43 GMT -5
not from the 00s it didn't. None of the stuff Slam listed ever has been in the main DCU. In fact, there's now a 'Gaiman-verse' that's sort of its own offshoot (which is weird, since Sandman DID have a main DCU appearance or two, I believe) Its totally fine either way, It just wasn't my first inclination Honestly, I've never even read any of the Vertigo stuff, so that made it tougher for me to decide what was appropriate, as I'm not familiar with it. I guess there's not really a right or wrong answer here just opinions, though.
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Post by wildfire2099 on Mar 12, 2021 8:33:36 GMT -5
Really??? You should! Anything Slam listed there is well worth the read! (Fables, Lucifer and Astro City especially!)
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 12, 2021 8:46:32 GMT -5
Without the Vertigo, ABC and Wildstorm stuff it becomes an entirely different question. With it, the big umbrella DC from 1985 through at least 2010 was a juggernaut.
I actually forgot the Paradox Press imprint also. Love those Big Books.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 12, 2021 15:43:07 GMT -5
Yea, I'll have to check some of those out. So many comics, so little time.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 12, 2021 16:01:38 GMT -5
OK, gang, recommend me three Wildstorm/Vertigo/whatever DC imprints and I'll see what I can do about checking something from that out.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 12, 2021 16:03:21 GMT -5
OK, gang, recommend me three Wildstorm/Vertigo/whatever DC imprints and I'll see what I can do about checking something from that out. What do you like? Because the books vary wildly as to genre and adult content. Your politics might also be a consideration. Some people will love Transmetropolitan while others will loathe it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2021 18:32:10 GMT -5
OK, gang, recommend me three Wildstorm/Vertigo/whatever DC imprints and I'll see what I can do about checking something from that out. From Wildstorm The Authority. Planetary.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 13, 2021 6:33:04 GMT -5
OK, gang, recommend me three Wildstorm/Vertigo/whatever DC imprints and I'll see what I can do about checking something from that out. From Wildstorm The Authority. Planetary. Planetary is one that I had heard of and was very interested in reading. I may check it out. I don't know anything about The Authority.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 13, 2021 6:35:44 GMT -5
OK, gang, recommend me three Wildstorm/Vertigo/whatever DC imprints and I'll see what I can do about checking something from that out. What do you like? Because the books vary wildly as to genre and adult content. Your politics might also be a consideration. Some people will love Transmetropolitan while others will loathe it. At this point, I'm more interested in characterization than wham-bam action. Some humor is definitely a plus. I don't like the dark stuff as much as I used to. So something not too gritty and bloody is good. As far as politics, I'm unusual in that I've gotten a lot more liberal as I've gotten older. What's the deal with Transmetropolitan? Also, I used to be strictly a superhero guy, but I'll read just about any genre now. Science Fiction and fantasy are probably my favorite non-superhero genres.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 7:21:06 GMT -5
From Wildstorm The Authority. Planetary. Planetary is one that I had heard of and was very interested in reading. I may check it out. I don't know anything about The Authority. The Authority was by Warren Ellis and Bryan Hitch. Picture a summer action movie in comic book form. And the characters are more "realistic" than conventional heroes.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Mar 13, 2021 9:13:54 GMT -5
What do you like? Because the books vary wildly as to genre and adult content. Your politics might also be a consideration. Some people will love Transmetropolitan while others will loathe it. At this point, I'm more interested in characterization than wham-bam action. Some humor is definitely a plus. I don't like the dark stuff as much as I used to. So something not too gritty and bloody is good. As far as politics, I'm unusual in that I've gotten a lot more liberal as I've gotten older. What's the deal with Transmetropolitan? Also, I used to be strictly a superhero guy, but I'll read just about any genre now. Science Fiction and fantasy are probably my favorite non-superhero genres. Transmetropolitan is Ellis doing a Hunter S. Thompson riff in an SF setting. It can be just as crude and irreverent as Thompson and just as thought provoking. If you liked Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail you should definitely give it a try. It has, of anything, become more relevant in the last five years. Planetary is a great meditation on and love-letter to various genres of popular culture with enough basis in superhero books that it seems familiar. I need to get back to my review thread. Fables might be a good fit. Essentially it’s premise is that the various fairy tale lands were taken over by there unknown Adversary and those remaining emigrated to Earth and are in hiding here. The first 75 issues are gold and make one large story. I think it falls off significantly after that. The initial trade is pretty sell-contained and will give you a feel for whether you’ll like it. I too have gotten much more liberal as I’ve gotten older.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 13, 2021 9:42:52 GMT -5
Planetary is one that I had heard of and was very interested in reading. I may check it out. I don't know anything about The Authority. The Authority was by Warren Ellis and Bryan Hitch. Picture a summer action movie in comic book form. And the characters are more "realistic" than conventional heroes. Sounds pretty good. I may have to check that one out, too.
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Post by dbutler69 on Mar 13, 2021 9:44:10 GMT -5
At this point, I'm more interested in characterization than wham-bam action. Some humor is definitely a plus. I don't like the dark stuff as much as I used to. So something not too gritty and bloody is good. As far as politics, I'm unusual in that I've gotten a lot more liberal as I've gotten older. What's the deal with Transmetropolitan? Also, I used to be strictly a superhero guy, but I'll read just about any genre now. Science Fiction and fantasy are probably my favorite non-superhero genres. Transmetropolitan is Ellis doing a Hunter S. Thompson riff in an SF setting. It can be just as crude and irreverent as Thompson and just as thought provoking. If you liked Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail you should definitely give it a try. It has, of anything, become more relevant in the last five years. Planetary is a great meditation on and love-letter to various genres of popular culture with enough basis in superhero books that it seems familiar. I need to get back to my review thread. Fables might be a good fit. Essentially it’s premise is that the various fairy tale lands were taken over by there unknown Adversary and those remaining emigrated to Earth and are in hiding here. The first 75 issues are gold and make one large story. I think it falls off significantly after that. The initial trade is pretty sell-contained and will give you a feel for whether you’ll like it. I too have gotten much more liberal as I’ve gotten older. Cool. Thanks for the rundowns. I'll certainly check out Planetary and Fables, anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 11:36:20 GMT -5
The Authority was by Warren Ellis and Bryan Hitch. Picture a summer action movie in comic book form. And the characters are more "realistic" than conventional heroes. Sounds pretty good. I may have to check that one out, too. Mark Millar took over as writer with #13. His style was a bit more crude than Ellis style so I did not enjoy it as much.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2021 14:56:14 GMT -5
Sounds pretty good. I may have to check that one out, too. Mark Millar took over as writer with #13. His style was a bit more crude than Ellis style so I did not enjoy it as much. If I were to read it, I would start with Warren Ellis' run on Stormwatch, which sets up the status quo of the Authority, and end when Ellis leaves the Authority (I find Millar mostly unreadable at best). The Stormwatch run was collected into two volumes I believe. -M
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