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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 15:49:40 GMT -5
The super-powers of Silver Age Marvel characters usually came with a price - The Thing was physically monstrous, the Hulk somewhat physically monstrous but also mentally/behaviorally compromised, Peter Parker's normal life was forever sabotaged by his Spider-man career, etc... Except for the Thing, I'd say the trade-off was a good deal, if given a choice in the matter. I'll take the Hulk's impossible strength if it means I also have no filters in place to prevent me from telling the puny humans where they can shove it. I'll take Spidey's abilities if it meant a big blow to my social life (the joke's on the radioactive spider - I barely have a social life to begin with.) I'll accept Odin's lesson in humility (I'm the best at learning lessons!) if I get to be Thor whenever I want as long as I keep track of the hammer. The X-Men? Let the normies hate and fear me. I got no time for bigots anyway.
Who do you think got the worst trade-off? I'm going with Grimm. Who had the easiest price to pay (and probably blew it out of proportion constantly)?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 26, 2020 16:05:13 GMT -5
Daredevil lost his sight....I'd hate losing my vision even it meant having everything else amplified....
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Post by tarkintino on Dec 26, 2020 16:57:39 GMT -5
The super-powers of Silver Age Marvel characters usually came with a price - The Thing was physically monstrous, the Hulk somewhat physically monstrous but also mentally/behaviorally compromised, Peter Parker's normal life was forever sabotaged by his Spider-man career, etc... Except for the Thing, I'd say the trade-off was a good deal, if given a choice in the matter. I'll take the Hulk's impossible strength if it means I also have no filters in place to prevent me from telling the puny humans where they can shove it. I'll take Spidey's abilities if it meant a big blow to my social life (the joke's on the radioactive spider - I barely have a social life to begin with.) I'll accept Odin's lesson in humility (I'm the best at learning lessons!) if I get to be Thor whenever I want as long as I keep track of the hammer. The X-Men? Let the normies hate and fear me. I got no time for bigots anyway. Who do you think got the worst trade-off? I'm going with Grimm. Who had the easiest price to pay (and probably blew it out of proportion constantly)? Silver / Bronze Age Spider-Man's life was tragic, and he was always condemned to have strained relationships with / be separated from loved ones by threats and/or death. No superpower is worth that.
The Hulk also had a tragic life. Who on earth would want to be hunted by the military and their associated government agencies? No one. Who would want to become a creature who might seriously hurt or kill someone, but you learn of this once back in your normal state. How do you deal with that. Again, not worth it.
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Post by jason on Dec 27, 2020 1:36:18 GMT -5
The X-Men have some pretty lousy trade-offs, Rogue can never touch anyone wihtout absorbing their memories or, in the case of superpowered characters, their powers, meaning she can never truly be in love. Cyclops cant see unless he has special glasses or a visor, otherwise he'll blow things sky high. Even Angel (and I'm talking PRE-Archangel) has wings attached to him permanently, which they even pointed out in an early story, isnt that convenient when he has to go out in public (he had to strap them down). Not to mention the ones who dont look human like Beast (later) or Nightcrawler, therefore they're automatically branded as freaks no matter what.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Dec 29, 2020 12:49:11 GMT -5
Man-Thing went from an unhappy and cuckolded lab rat to a hideous, shambling pile of mud whose touch ignites fearful people.
Even starting from a low point, that wasn't much of a trade-off!
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Post by brianf on Dec 29, 2020 16:17:30 GMT -5
Man-Thing went from an unhappy and cuckolded lab rat to a hideous, shambling pile of mud whose touch ignites fearful people. Even starting from a low point, that wasn't much of a trade-off! Man-Thing for the win! Almost sounds like Vonnegut's visual story arc for Metamorphosis
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 18:35:35 GMT -5
What was the trade-off for Sue Storm? She seems to have gotten off easy.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 18:51:07 GMT -5
What was the trade-off for Sue Storm? She seems to have gotten off easy. It seems Ben paid the price for the whole team.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2020 18:56:48 GMT -5
The super-powers of Silver Age Marvel characters usually came with a price - The Thing was physically monstrous, the Hulk somewhat physically monstrous but also mentally/behaviorally compromised, Peter Parker's normal life was forever sabotaged by his Spider-man career, etc... Except for the Thing, I'd say the trade-off was a good deal, if given a choice in the matter. I'll take the Hulk's impossible strength if it means I also have no filters in place to prevent me from telling the puny humans where they can shove it. I'll take Spidey's abilities if it meant a big blow to my social life (the joke's on the radioactive spider - I barely have a social life to begin with.) I'll accept Odin's lesson in humility (I'm the best at learning lessons!) if I get to be Thor whenever I want as long as I keep track of the hammer. The X-Men? Let the normies hate and fear me. I got no time for bigots anyway. Who do you think got the worst trade-off? I'm going with Grimm. Who had the easiest price to pay (and probably blew it out of proportion constantly)? Silver / Bronze Age Spider-Man's life was tragic, and he was always condemned to have strained relationships with / be separated from loved ones by threats and/or death. No superpower is worth that.
The Hulk also had a tragic life. Who on earth would want to be hunted by the military and their associated government agencies? No one. Who would want to become a creature who might seriously hurt or kill someone, but you learn of this once back in your normal state. How do you deal with that. Again, not worth it.
eh... did the 616 Hulk ever seriously hurt anyone? In my mind, there's always enough humanity left that he won't admit to, that keeps him from doing any major harm. Taking on tanks and jet fighters and not losing? That's gotta be a thrill. I'm not going to "woe is me" about it in the morning, I'm going to wake up and find a way to Hulk out again. If they don't wanna keep scrapping their equipment, then the puny humans can just leave me alone.
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Post by brianf on Dec 29, 2020 20:57:23 GMT -5
Silver / Bronze Age Spider-Man's life was tragic, and he was always condemned to have strained relationships with / be separated from loved ones by threats and/or death. No superpower is worth that.
The Hulk also had a tragic life. Who on earth would want to be hunted by the military and their associated government agencies? No one. Who would want to become a creature who might seriously hurt or kill someone, but you learn of this once back in your normal state. How do you deal with that. Again, not worth it.
eh... did the 616 Hulk ever seriously hurt anyone? In my mind, there's always enough humanity left that he won't admit to, that keeps him from doing any major harm. Taking on tanks and jet fighters and not losing? That's gotta be a thrill. I'm not going to "woe is me" about it in the morning, I'm going to wake up and find a way to Hulk out again. If they don't wanna keep scrapping their equipment, then the puny humans can just leave me alone. Looks like fun
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 29, 2020 22:19:40 GMT -5
What was the trade-off for Sue Storm? She seems to have gotten off easy. She could turn invisible and she got a boyfriend who could stretch his body; seems like she made out pretty darn well. She does have to babysit the other 3, though, so it isn't all sunshine and roses.
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Post by brutalis on Dec 30, 2020 2:06:43 GMT -5
Metamorpho! Rex Mason looks freaky but is a walking chemistry set (How cool is that?!?) with a gorgeous rich girlfriend. Along with that she has the world's worst father and a caveman with a crush on her so hard he commits himself to trying to destroy Rex at every opportunity. Sheeeesh!
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Post by wildfire2099 on Dec 30, 2020 8:57:11 GMT -5
I think the Hulk has it the worst... he has a true double life, and the two are in conflict with each other. Rogue is probably a close 2nd until she gets better and controls her powers better.
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Post by MDG on Dec 30, 2020 9:52:03 GMT -5
How about Aquaman? Under the ocean he's King of Atlantis and the Seven Seas, but on land, he's Aquaman.
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