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Post by shaxper on Dec 17, 2020 8:13:54 GMT -5
On the Fifth Day of Christmas, a hero brought to me, a new love for all things Archie... 8. Paul Kupperberg Primarily selected for World of Krypton (1979), Life with Archie: The Married Life (2010-2014)Considering how long Kupperberg wrote for DC, and how much Kupperberg wrote for DC, it's more than a little surprising that there is no definitive Paul Kupperberg run that everyone always associates with his name. For me, it's just the simple fact that if I pick up a random Bronze age DC book, and it's a hell of a lot better than I expected it to be, it was usually written by him. Add to that his World of Krypton limited series that truly yanked upon the heart strings and found a new emotional richness for the Superman mythos in an age in which no one else knew what to do with the character, as well as his more recent work on Life with Archie: The Married Life (one of my favorite runs of all time, so good that it was the very first episode of The CCF Podcast and ultimately turned me into a part-time Archie fan), and it's clear Kupperberg belongs on my list for this year's event. And yes, the positioning of this cover is...unfortunate.
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Post by DubipR on Dec 17, 2020 8:33:59 GMT -5
#8- Harvey KurtzmanSelected works: Mad, Humbug, Trump!, Goodman Beaver, Little Annie Fanny, selected EC works Co-founding Mad Magazine with Gaines, Kurtzman's work is some of the best satirical writing in the 20th Century. Kurtzman work overall, be it serious with subjects in is war comics, there's an underlying satire in his scripts. But back to Mad! As a kid in the late 70s/early 80s, Kurtzman wasn't around on the magazine, but my friends had older comics and reprints of the original Mad Magazine run. I adored his work and delved deep in my late teens and 20s into trying to buy issues of old Mads, EC and Kurtzman's self published work. He's probably the best example of melding words and pictures in the golden age of comics. He understood the power of the page; not to convey the art but to convey the power of his words, especially his comedy. My favorite quote from him: "Cartooning consists of the two elements, graphics and texts. Obviously it is to the advantage of the total product to have good text and good art and the more closely integrated the good text and good art are, the greater the opportunity is to create the capital-A Art" From there, working with Hugh Hefner, who helped finance Humbug, gave Kurtzman a carte-blanche on a comic strip for Playboy. Enter Little Annie Fanny. To a young kid, stealing dad's Playboys, seeing the naked ladies were great but having a comic in it was a double whammy. But as I went back and read the comics, Kurtzman's layouts and his scripts shine. Will Elder's paintings of the layouts created a modern sexy masterpiece. Kurtzman's influence in comics and magazines is huge; but his genius lays in his words. They're devlishly wonderful.
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Post by Confessor on Dec 17, 2020 8:50:07 GMT -5
#8 - David Michelinie ( Jonah Hex #13-15, Star Wars [1981-1983], The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones [1983-1985], Web of Spider-Man [various issues 1985-1995], Amazing Spider-Man [1987-1994]) I believe that the earliest work that I have read of David Michelinie's are a trio of early issues of DC's Jonah Hex, which are all cracking little Western tales. While he's arguably best known as the writer of the famous Iron Man arc "Demon in a Bottle" (which I've never read BTW), it's primarily for his early '80s tenure on Marvel's Star Wars comic that I'm choosing him as my number 9 pick for. Obviously, my love of that title is well known in the forum, and what I particularly love about Micheline's stories are that they really nail the feel of the Star Wars universe and the "voices" of the central cast in a way that earlier writers on the series hadn't done quite as well. Michelinie gave the series such memorable story arcs as the Tarkin saga, Lando's return to Bespin, and Golrath Never Forgets, as well as introducing such key original characters as Plif and the Hoojibs, and love interest/Imperial spy Shira Brie, the latter of which culminated in the fantastic and unforgettable Pariah story arc. I also really dug Michelinie's writing on another Lucasfilm spin-off series, The Further Adventures of Indiana Jones, on which he wrote more issues than anybody else. This is actually a really underrated gem of a series and that's almost entirely due to Michelinie. I'm also citing his on-and-off run on Web of Spider-Man and his time as the main writer on Amazing Spider-Man, the latter of which was bookended by having to tackle the editorially-mandated marriage of Peter Parker and Mary Jane Watson at the start of his run, and paving the way for the infamous '90s clone saga at the end of it. But between those two events, Michelinie produced some really enjoyable stories; of particular note would be the introduction of Venom, who has been massively overused since then, but was originally a truly scary adversary for Spidey. I also love how he developed the newly married Peter and MJ's domestic life. For my money, Michelinie was easily one of the greatest comics writers Marvel had in the Bronze and Copper Ages. From Star Wars, issue #62 (1982)...
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Post by brutalis on Dec 17, 2020 8:57:47 GMT -5
#8-Brian Azzarello
Two things I love to read about and he does them extremely well. Gangsters and Cowboys doing their shoot-em ups and done right! I latched onto 100 Bullets as of the very 1st issue because that Johnson cover was sweet. I stayed for the entire run because of the characters Azzarello crafted. I don't say created because these folks truly lived and breathed on the pages as if they were alive and Azzarello was only "telling" us their story. So many intrigues along the way full of characters you came to like and loathe.
It was a thinking person's crime noir given freedom to go wherever it needed and saying what you didn't expect. A true page turner in every way from start to end. I still wish for and want more Dzzy, Graves and Lono stories, it was that good.
And how does he follow this? With a western that shoots straight from the hip and into your heart. Taking you on a trail with bad man and his badder woman. This isn't your grandpa's old west from television in the 50's. It's adult, bloody, sexual and damn humorously funny creative writing. Those 1st 10 pages captures and expands upon the Italian spaghetti western motif and let's you know that you are in for one helluva great and glorious ride if you dare to ride along.
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Post by MDG on Dec 17, 2020 9:08:24 GMT -5
Robert Loren FlemingFleming is here for one reason, and that's his work with Keith Giffen on Ambush Bug. If it wasn't for that, I might've given up on DC a lot earlier than I did. Admittedly, DC was doing good stuff in the early 80s, but comics were getting way too serious and I needed some fun. I'm not quite sure where Fleming lived, but he appeared at a few local shows, as well as in NYC, so I had a bit of a nodding acquaintance w/ him. When I showed him an Ambush Bug pAGE I'd just bought, he pointed out how in the middle tier, Giffen had given Superman, in Ambush Bug's body (due to Red K, of course) four distinct expressions, and he wanted to come up with thought bubbles that matched each one.
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Post by thwhtguardian on Dec 17, 2020 10:10:52 GMT -5
On the fifth day of Classic Comics Christmas I give unto thee... Five Incredible Hulks Peter David Stan Lee may have created the Incredible Hulk but in terms of not only the sheer number of comics put out and quality than you have to concede that Peter David is the absolute master of good ol' jade jaws. Twelve years is a long time to write a character and in that time he added an immense amount of depth and pathos to the character that has come to truly define the character all these years later.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 17, 2020 10:40:51 GMT -5
8. Harvey Kurtzman (Mad, Two-Fisted Tales, Frontline Combat, Humbug, Trump) For Mad alone, Kurtzman would belong both in my personal pantheon and in the Hall of Greats. But he also wrote many of the great tales from his EC edited books. I don't feel the need to rehash what Dubip already went over. I do think it's important to point out that there are certain Mad stories that cultural and comic touchstones with influences that reverberate through our popular culture. Superduperman and Starchie are two of them. And his writing on Frontline Combat and, to a lesser extent, Two-fisted Tales set the bar for war comics that would not come close to being matched for decades.
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Post by Crimebuster on Dec 17, 2020 11:17:11 GMT -5
8. Matt Wagner
Most of this has already been said, so I'll just give a second thumbs up to Sandman Mystery Theatre as my favorite comic ever. Also, I really liked Madame Xanadu as well!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 11:31:11 GMT -5
#8 - Peter DavidI came to Peter David’s Hulk after it had been published. Sort of. I started reading it in the mid-90s until his run ended (1998, right?). I found it so compelling, that I did my best to track down - and succeeded - in getting all of his run thanks to a rather generous back issue bin at my LCS. I like Greg Pak’s Hulk. I like Al Ewing’s Hulk. I like so much classic Hulk. But Peter David’s Hulk may be my favourite. He never repeated himself. And a 12-year run is quite stellar. Once I got all the back issues, I must have read them in a matter of weeks as I caught up with with the then-concurrent ones. I just *had* to do so. My inclusion of Peter David isn’t just about the Hulk, though. He’s innovative, but recognisable. He took the likes of the Hulk in some interesting directions while still giving us plenty of “Hulk Smash” that we’d grown to love. With all due respect to the Hulk, issue after issue of New Mexico shenanigans against aliens, the Rhino and so many others might get old hat after a bit. From “Joe Fixet” to the merging of the various personalities, I would say David is my favourite Hulk writer ever. And, another reason for his inclusion: like others on my list, his name had me tracking down his work, no matter what it is. If I ever learn that Peter David is writing a graphic novel about the history of breakfast cereals, I’ll be there.
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 17, 2020 12:53:03 GMT -5
#8 Steve GerberI've only read a little of his Man-Thing run; but, I did an entire review thread because of his Defenders. When I hear that name, I immediately think of Hulk, Bird-Nose, Smart Friend magician and Sword Lady. Gerber took a secondary team that started out as an informal grouping of Hulk Sub-Mariner and Dr Strange and gave it character. He also made it the most surreal comic in the business, whether it was the bizarre conglomeration that was the Headmen, the satire of the EST phenomena, with the Bozos, or an Elf With a Gun, Defenders was always a treat to read. If that weren't enough, gerber also came up with Howard the Duck. Now, if I'm honest, I tend to prefer the earliest Howard stories; but, my all-time favorite was the howard Treasury Edition original story, where Howard meets up with the Defenders.... Howard and the non-team have to deal with a phony wizard and a bunch of misfit villains, including a guy with a black hole in his chest. It was delightfully absurd and read like Monty Python had taken up comics. If that weren't enough, Gerber also created one of my favorite Saturday morning cartoons, Thundarr the Barbarian. Gerber madness mixed with Kirby designs, mixed with Robert Ridgely's distinctive voice; classic stuff.
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Post by coke & comics on Dec 17, 2020 13:32:36 GMT -5
8. Jim Starlin
Thing: This is it, Benjy. Time for the big decision. Of course we want Banner and me changed back to human. But what'll be the second wish? I gotta be careful with that one. That wish's for mankind. I gotta be smart about this and think out all the ramifications. There'll be no second chances. Stamben Malelet: Well, what'll it be? Hulk: We want food and want to go home. --Marvel Graphic Novel: The Big Change, Marvel, 1987
Captain America: As long as one man stands against you, you'll never be able to claim victory. Thanos: Noble sentiments from one who is about to die. Silver Surfer: Thanos is going to kill him! Adam Warlock: Wait!! Captain America: I've lived my life by those sentiments. They're well worth dying for. --"Cosmic Battle on the Edge of the Universe!", Infinity Gauntlet #4, Marvel, 1991
The Great One: You are an outsider to my universe. Only you could have done this to me. This universe is mine and... it is my mind. During our battle your might destroyed a small... insignifcant and uninhabited satellite. No one but an outsider... could do this... could destroy me. I am dying... Silver Surfer: Such a waste. All you had to do was ask. I would have accepted paradise on your terms. I could have returned to reality and been converted properly. So that this would not have happened. And if you could not accept me, I would have left peacefully... for Zenn-La's sake. But you never gave me the chance. Why did you just up and attack me? Why! The Great One: Panic. -- Silver Surfer: Homecoming, Marvel, 1991
Also recommended: The Weird
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I'll make a note that Starlin was the most impacted by the "stuff they didn't draw rule". When I started to make my list, I tossed Starlin at #3 out of force of habit. But as I thought about my favorite works, he drew most of them. Infinity Gauntlet was good enough to leave him on the list, but several spots down from where I'd normally put him as a writer.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2020 14:11:34 GMT -5
On the fifth day of Christmas, Santa brought to me the works of Archie Goodwin... Works that garnered favorite status: Manhunter, Blackmark, His Name is Savage, a metric ton of Warren stories especially for Blazing Combat, Star Wars, Iron Man (leaving off his comic strip work since that is to eligible for consideration) Why I like Goodwin's work: Goodwin writes two things I really like-rip roarin' adventure tales and stories that make you think. Sometimes he even writes stories that are both. Even some of his poorer efforts have something to offer. Goodwin knows what makes a good story and what is necessary to make a story work, how to take it from an idea to an executed piece of narrative fiction (which is also part of what made him such a good editor as well), so his stories are almost always well done (even one's I didn't like as much as the others and there were a few clunkers here and there, nobody's perfect). But if you pick up a Goodwin story to read, you are likely in for a quality reading experience. Single Work I'd recommend if you are unfamiliar with Goodwin's work: Manhunter -M
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Post by EdoBosnar on Dec 17, 2020 15:16:42 GMT -5
8. David MichelinieSome time in January 1979, I pulled this issue off of the spinner rack (together with X-men #120, but that’s another story): Before that, I had probably only bought one or two issues of Iron Man at random and they apparently didn’t impress me very much (he fought the Blizzard in one of them, that much I remember). But this cover just grabbed me for some reason, and heck, it had Namor, too. It was the conclusion of a two-part story, but I didn’t care – I was immediately taken in by the story and its cast of characters (including Rhodey and Bethany Cabe, who are so much more interesting that Happy Hogan and Pepper Potts), to say nothing of the slick art by JR Jr. and Bob Layton. After that, I knew I *had* to get this every month. And it didn’t disappoint for the next thirty or so issues. The ‘Demon in a Bottle’ story arc – which initially began as a sub-plot right around the beginning of Michelinie’s tenure as main writer and concluded with issue #128 – is, of course, the strongest, and one I’ve read a number of times, both back in the day and more recently. It sees Iron Man experience some highs, and some devastating lows. But the series didn’t flag after that peak; Tony got back on his feet and kept going strong as both Iron Man and successful industrialist. Michelinie was really good at balancing the superheroing with the goings-on in Tony’s business and private life, and he also gave us the best love interest for Tony (Bethany – it’s really a pity that he wrote her out of the series just before he stepped away from the book). At around the same time, Michelinie was also the main writer on Avengers during my personal sweet-spot for the series from #181 to about #200. That alone is more than enough to include him in my list of personal favorites, but he has other writing credits of note, as mentioned by others here.
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Post by berkley on Dec 17, 2020 15:48:15 GMT -5
8. Harvey Kurtzman (Mad, Two-Fisted Tales, Frontline Combat, Humbug, Trump) For Mad alone, Kurtzman would belong both in my personal pantheon and in the Hall of Greats. But he also wrote many of the great tales from his EC edited books. I don't feel the need to rehash what Dubip already went over. I do think it's important to point out that there are certain Mad stories that cultural and comic touchstones with influences that reverberate through our popular culture. Superduperman and Starchie are two of them. And his writing on Frontline Combat and, to a lesser extent, Two-fisted Tales set the bar for war comics that would not come close to being matched for decades. Wally Wood's Lois Pain looks way better than Lois Lane ever did. Actually, this would probably be my pick as the greatest Super(duper)man story ever told.
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Dec 17, 2020 16:00:09 GMT -5
8. Harvey Kurtzman (Mad, Two-Fisted Tales, Frontline Combat, Humbug, Trump) For Mad alone, Kurtzman would belong both in my personal pantheon and in the Hall of Greats. But he also wrote many of the great tales from his EC edited books. I don't feel the need to rehash what Dubip already went over. I do think it's important to point out that there are certain Mad stories that cultural and comic touchstones with influences that reverberate through our popular culture. Superduperman and Starchie are two of them. And his writing on Frontline Combat and, to a lesser extent, Two-fisted Tales set the bar for war comics that would not come close to being matched for decades. Wally Wood's Lois Pain looks way better than Lois Lane ever did. Actually, this would probably be my pick as the greatest Super(duper)man story ever told. I would absolutely agree with that.
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