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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 13, 2020 11:10:35 GMT -5
Yes, the day you thought would never come is finally here. As DC would say, One Year Later, the next episode of the Classic Comics Forum Podcast is finally here. First, thanks for your patience, especially Confessor - sorry again for the long delay! Secondly, this was originally supposed to be a four part series, but it's going to be at least five at this point. After finishing this episode, I still have 5 hours of audio to edit! I do have some ideas for upcoming episodes once I have finally finished editing all of this, but we'll probably do a couple one and done episodes before we attempt anything larger scale again. In this episode, we discuss Star Wars #39-63. Enjoy! classiccomics.podbean.com/e/classic-comics-forum-podcast-23-star-wars-by-marvel-comics-part-3/
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Post by brutalis on Apr 14, 2020 8:38:14 GMT -5
Great discussion guys! With the year wait this one truly captures the Star War essence of us fans back in the day and waiting ever so impatiently for the next movie while devouring every comic book Marvel produced and talking about them. As Goodwin and Williamson deliver Empire it marks a big change in the Marvel series style and tone. Everything up to this point really has the old licensing ideas behind it: that a company "buys" the rights to using the characters and names and settings without much caring if the comic actually looks, feels, tastes like what it is based upon. Kind of how Hollywood used to do when buying novels and comics: they would use the names and change everything else to "what they think it should be like" while ignoring the real product. Marvel was simply keeping the name Star Wars alive with a fan following of the original movie and many times the characters were not really acting or sounding like they properly should. Then Empire comes along, a 2nd movie that has so much more depth and characterization and totally changing the movie and comics tone and setting up so much more "history" (along with changes and additions from the original ideas) and providing more in terms of what the comic should deliver. Everything in the comic before Empire is rather atypical science fiction/fantasy tropes given the Star Wars name and now the game changer of Empire has the writing and art make a sudden turn towards becoming part of the Star Wars world. The characterizations and ideas are much tighter, more in line with what is being seen on the big screen. Whether this is from Lucas people beginning to "protect" their product and monitoring what others were doing with it or from Marvel paying attention to the ever evolving comic readers tastes I cannot say. What is noticeable during this time is we the fans are being delivered a much more interesting and superior comic book reading experience. Always interesting to hear your thoughts and insights Confessor on Star Wars comics as your real love, respect and enthusiasm for Luke and the gang is highly visible (does that make sense that we can "see" from hearing your talks?). That this is turning into a 5 part episode with such passion over a comic book of a movie series is reflective of just how much Star Wars has touched so many people's lives and become such an icon. And for whatever reason it may be, your dulcet and sultry Brit voice sounds like Neil Gaiman to me and now whenever I see Gaiman in my mind, I cannot help but envision him wearing a pair of green bunny ears!
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Post by Confessor on Apr 14, 2020 9:30:21 GMT -5
Glad you enjoy listening to me ramble on about it, brutalis. I haven't actually listened to this episode yet, but I hope to get round to it in a day or two. I totally agree that the quality of the series increased tremendously from the start of the ESB adaptation right through to the ROTJ adaptation. The issues between the 2nd and 3rd SW films feel much more like the movies and work really well as supplementary material to the cinematic installments.
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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 17, 2020 10:38:27 GMT -5
Great discussion guys! That this is turning into a 5 part episode with such passion over a comic book of a movie series is reflective of just how much Star Wars has touched so many people's lives and become such an icon. Yes, let's go with that! That's exactly why.
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Post by brutalis on Apr 17, 2020 10:42:44 GMT -5
Great discussion guys! That this is turning into a 5 part episode with such passion over a comic book of a movie series is reflective of just how much Star Wars has touched so many people's lives and become such an icon. Yes, let's go with that! That's exactly why. Anything to help a buddy out! We CCF members have to stick up for each other don't ya know? Not your fault that life gets in the way of the fun stuff
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Apr 19, 2020 4:05:01 GMT -5
This was a good episode. I've really enjoyed these. I was surprised to see it available in my feed since it had been so long. Regardless, they've all been an insightful discussion. I've never read the Marvel Star Wars series, but this is making me want to get started. Making it past the first 50 or so issues though seems like a tall order.
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Post by Confessor on Apr 19, 2020 10:20:40 GMT -5
This was a good episode. I've really enjoyed these. I was surprised to see it available in my feed since it had been so long. Regardless, they've all been an insightful discussion. I've never read the Marvel Star Wars series, but this is making me want to get started. Making it past the first 50 or so issues though seems like a tall order. So just jump in at issue #49 (the first Simonson issue) or, better yet, #51 (the first David Micheline). You don't have to have read the earlier issues to enjoy these. From there, if you're enjoying the series, you should definitely continue reading into the Jo Duffy era, which begins in issue #70. That said, the first 40 or so issues aren't terrible, by any means. They're just less good than what came later IMHO.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Apr 19, 2020 14:32:00 GMT -5
Another great interview, Crimebuster and Confessor! Aaah, those were the days of the real Star Wars for me (before the cartoons, the prequels, sequels and in-betweenquels, before every extra in the background of every scene had their own action figure and devoted following). The days of Vader in his prime as a villain and the days of Shira Brie. (Shee-ra Bree )Regarding Luke's lightsaber post- Empire Strikes Back, I wasn't bothered by it... while the idea that he might have recovered his own sabre while tumbling down Cloud City's ventilation system was silly, I just assumed that he had purchased another sabre somewhere the same way someone today could buy a WWII gun in a specialized store. Nothing in the first two movies suggested lightsabers were that rare (even though they were clearly seen as dated), and even an amateur like Baron Tagge could get one. They can't have been that difficult to make anyway, since Luke built a new one in time for Return of the Jedi. (By the way, have you folks looked at the Youtube videos where people build their own lightsaber props? It's quite amazing).
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Post by Confessor on Apr 20, 2020 4:52:22 GMT -5
OK, just listened to this. Thanks, as ever, for making me sound more coherant than I actually am, Crimebuster. It kinda sounds like I might've got a cold in this. I can't remember, but maybe I did. It's interesting that when I'm discussing SW #50, I mention that the last appearance of Domina Tagge was left fairly open, but that she never returns... only now she has, with the one-shot SW #108 that came out last year. Shows how long ago these interviews were done. Also, it strikes me that the fact that many of the average joes in the Rebellion turned on Luke Skywalker in the "Pariah" arc could be included in the recent "moments that ring true" thread.
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Post by Crimebuster on Apr 20, 2020 13:24:40 GMT -5
OK, just listened to this. Thanks, as ever, for making me sound more coherant than I actually am, Crimebuster. It kinda sounds like I might've got a cold in this. I can't remember, but maybe I did. It's interesting that when I'm discussing SW #50, I mention that the last appearance of Domina Tagge was left fairly open, but that she never returns... only now she has, with the one-shot SW #108 that came out last year. Shows how long ago these interviews were done. Also, it strikes me that the fact that many of the average joes in the Rebellion turned on Luke Skywalker in the "Pariah" arc could be included in the recent "moments that ring true" thread. It was a long time ago! When I finish editing episode 5, I'll add a bit during my outtro mentioning the story in #108. It seems pretty likely that someone at Marvel listened to the podcast and got the idea from us.
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Post by BigPapaJoe on Apr 20, 2020 19:37:11 GMT -5
This was a good episode. I've really enjoyed these. I was surprised to see it available in my feed since it had been so long. Regardless, they've all been an insightful discussion. I've never read the Marvel Star Wars series, but this is making me want to get started. Making it past the first 50 or so issues though seems like a tall order. So just jump in at issue #49 (the first Simonson issue) or, better yet, #51 (the first David Micheline). You don't have to have read the earlier issues to enjoy these. From there, if you're enjoying the series, you should definitely continue reading into the Jo Duffy era, which begins in issue #70. That said, the first 40 or so issues aren't terrible, by any means. They're just less good than what came later IMHO. Yes, I might just do that. Part of me feels that if I can get through the first 50 issues of Fantastic Four, I can do this too! (although Stan Lee and Kirby's X-Men has me in the chokehold) However, it's still a tough road to hoe regardless, so I might just hop to Simonson who I love.
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Post by MDG on Apr 23, 2020 11:07:44 GMT -5
If this isn't enough Star Wars for you, Comics at RIT is putting on an event on May 4: Check out the Cary’s newly digitized covers of the original 1970s Star Wars comics, published by Marvel. RIT experts will kick off a discussion about how the story lines of these comics meshed with the films, while being a spring board for current publishing around the Star Wars franchise. A lively Q & A session will follow the short presentations.
After registration, you will receive an email about how to join this meeting through Zoom online conferencing by using a smart phone, tablet, or computer.
For interpreting services, please request at myaccess.rit.edu.
The deadline to register for this event is Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 7:00pm.
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Post by Crimebuster on Jun 15, 2020 10:08:41 GMT -5
This episode just passed 100 downloads!
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