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Which One?
Oct 25, 2021 17:29:43 GMT -5
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Post by brutalis on Oct 25, 2021 17:29:43 GMT -5
Nah it's the Silver Connection. Fly, Robin Fly!
Someone feel free to post the video since I can't.
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Post by Mister Spaceman on Oct 25, 2021 23:07:32 GMT -5
Sun Ra (and company) for the win:
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Post by brutalis on Nov 1, 2021 10:37:39 GMT -5
A Captain America Which One stand-in for today. Bucky-Cap or Cap-Falcon?
I haven't read much of either version so I am going with my opinion based upon how I "think/feel" from growing up reading about these characters. Both would have their personal reasons for stepping up to holding the shield which make sense.
Falcon I see doing so as a temporary thing as he has fought beside Cap for so long in being a partner and his own man. His time with the shield and title would be directly in response to the "death" and honoring of Steve Rogers.
For me, it would be Bucky-Cap who was mentored and "lived" the same ideals and beliefs fighting beside Cap as a child during war time who would willingly commit himself to continue the tradition now as an adult. Bucky recognizes that the myth is greater than the man, so devoting himself completely to the role of BEING Captain America makes the most sense.
Your thoughts?
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Post by Slam_Bradley on Nov 1, 2021 10:52:32 GMT -5
I haven't read Falcon-Cap. So Bucky-Cap by default. It's actually one of the few recent-ish Marvel runs that I've read because I'm a big fan of Brubaker.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 1, 2021 11:17:37 GMT -5
Never read the Cap-Falcon stories, so I'll go with the Golden Age version I read in the old Fantasy Masterpieces giants back in the 60s: Cap and Bucky.
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Post by berkley on Nov 1, 2021 12:01:13 GMT -5
Is the question referring to stories where Bucky or the Falcon were Captain America themselves for a time? I haven't read any of those so I don't have an opinion.
But if the question is just who was the better partner, Bucky or the Falcon, or which was the better combination, Bucky+CA or Falcon+CA, I'll say the Falcon and CA, since I don't like teenage sidekick characters in general. I never saw the Falcon as a sidekick, he always seemed like an equal partner to me.
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Post by brutalis on Nov 1, 2021 12:22:05 GMT -5
A Captain America Which One stand-in for today. Bucky-Cap or Cap-Falcon? To clarify, NOT partner (Falcon by far) but taking on the mantle of Captain America.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 1, 2021 13:42:49 GMT -5
A Captain America Which One stand-in for today. Bucky-Cap or Cap-Falcon? To clarify, NOT partner (Falcon by far) but taking on the mantle of Captain America. Curse my lack of attention, I completely misread your post!!! As far as a new Cap goes, I favour Bucky. As a kid he was a sidekick, pure and simple, while Sam was his own man. Bucky taking up the mantle makes sense, as he's filling the shoes of his mentor; a younger generation replacing on old one is par for the course. Sam becoming Cap feels a bit like, say, Hawkeye becoming the new Iron Man or something. Sam is The Falcon; not "Captain America in training". I would have liked Elijah Bradley to have a shot at the title too, since his link to the Captain America legacy predates even Bucky's, so to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 13:48:08 GMT -5
Curse my lack of attention, I completely misread your post!!! As far as a new Cap goes, I favour Bucky. As a kid he was a sidekick, pure and simple, while Sam was his own man. Bucky taking up the mantle makes sense, as he's filling the shoes of his mentor; a younger generation replacing on older one is par for the course. Sam becoming Cap feels a bit like, say, Hawkeye becoming the new Iron Man or something. Sam is The Falcon; not "Captain America in training". I would have liked Elijah Bradley to have a shot at the title too, since his link to the Captain America legacy predates even Bucky's, so to speak. Well to be fair, Clint (Hawkeye) did become the new Goliath for a while... -M
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 1, 2021 13:54:11 GMT -5
Curse my lack of attention, I completely misread your post!!! As far as a new Cap goes, I favour Bucky. As a kid he was a sidekick, pure and simple, while Sam was his own man. Bucky taking up the mantle makes sense, as he's filling the shoes of his mentor; a younger generation replacing on older one is par for the course. Sam becoming Cap feels a bit like, say, Hawkeye becoming the new Iron Man or something. Sam is The Falcon; not "Captain America in training". I would have liked Elijah Bradley to have a shot at the title too, since his link to the Captain America legacy predates even Bucky's, so to speak. Well to be fair, Clint (Hawkeye) did become the new Goliath for a while... -M Indeed, and that was silly! Why didn't he become, I don't know... Moa-eye or something?
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Post by foxley on Nov 1, 2021 15:54:46 GMT -5
Cap-Falcon, simply because I can't stand Bucky, the Boy Hostage: the most annoying kid sidekick of all time, and a character so stupid he chose his own name as his superhero alias. He should have stayed dead.
Plus Sam's costume as Cap looked cool.
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Post by Prince Hal on Nov 1, 2021 16:21:56 GMT -5
Bucky's fate, like ours', was determined for him. Can't hold that against him. Still in his corner on this one.
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Post by berkley on Nov 1, 2021 23:12:41 GMT -5
Bucky was never a favourite of mine but I found the re-telling of his story by Roy Thomas and John Buscema in Avengers #56 very moving as a kid. It was one of the earliest Avengers comics I read - I think only the second or third, after #45 and possibly Annual #2, which according to Mike's came out around the same time as #56.
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Post by Roquefort Raider on Nov 2, 2021 8:19:39 GMT -5
I hated the idea of Bucky coming back from the dead, because now Uncle Ben is all alone in the afterlife... but darn it, I gotta admit: Brubaker won me over with his story.
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Post by Mormel on Nov 3, 2021 10:29:50 GMT -5
I hated the idea of Bucky coming back from the dead, because now Uncle Ben is all alone in the afterlife... but darn it, I gotta admit: Brubaker won me over with his story. Now I have this image of Marvel's afterlife being this huge room with Uncle Ben sitting in a chair in the middle reading the newspaper only to look up whenever a deceased superhero walks in and going "Oh hey! Welcome back! How long you wanna bet you'll be staying here THIS time around? 2 years? 3, tops???"
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