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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 10:24:58 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Sgt. Slaughter really received death threats during the Gulf War angle or was it a WWF marketing ploy? I think so; but it's has a ring of uncertainty -- but he was extra careful and most wrestling fans knew that his act was a gimmick and I did too. He was a villain a classic heel at that time and did his part to the letter and later on became a face to make wrestling fans to believe that he is Pro-American. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 10:33:16 GMT -5
I may have posted this before, but it was odd at the time seeing him as a heel on WWF television/PPV while he was a hero in the G.I. Joe comic. I wonder, should Marvel Comics have had him turn heel and join Cobra?  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 13, 2019 12:04:34 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Sgt. Slaughter really received death threats during the Gulf War angle or was it a WWF marketing ploy? No; that was total BS to cover up the fact that the ticket advance was abysmal; so, they changed to a smaller venue. The WWF was in such bad shape it was going to make Wrestle Rock, in the AWA, look like a sell out. There might have been a token number of threatening letters; but, no one was taking wrestling seriously, and certainly not the WWF, at that point, except total loons who believe that 7 people are trapped on an island in the South Pacific, but never question how they can view their adventures every day, right after those of a blended family, with 6 kids and one bathroom! Oh, and Slaughter was never a US Marine and never served in any of the armed forces, in any country. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 13, 2019 12:09:26 GMT -5
I may have posted this before, but it was odd at the time seeing him as a heel on WWF television/PPV while he was a hero in the G.I. Joe comic. I wonder, should Marvel Comics have had him turn heel and join Cobra? The comics would have had to have been approved by Hasbro. Not sure; but, I believe deal was actually over by the time he was back in the WWF. Marvel might have continued using him, though I would think he would have to be paid royalties. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 13, 2019 12:13:54 GMT -5
Does anyone know if Sgt. Slaughter really received death threats during the Gulf War angle or was it a WWF marketing ploy? I think so; but it's has a ring of uncertainty -- but he was extra careful and most wrestling fans knew that his act was a gimmick and I did too. He was a villain a classic heel at that time and did his part to the letter and later on became a face to make wrestling fans to believe that he is Pro-American. So, that bastion of journalism that is Fox New and a wrestler who still kayfabes that he was a Marine................ ..................let me just move this 16 ton block of salt and consider whether there were legit death threats.......  |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 13, 2019 12:20:05 GMT -5
I may have posted this before, but it was odd at the time seeing him as a heel on WWF television/PPV while he was a hero in the G.I. Joe comic. I wonder, should Marvel Comics have had him turn heel and join Cobra? Besides, who in their right minds joins COBRA? They could't hit the broad side of a barn, their leader is a raving nut whose plans fail, Zartan couldn't scratch his backside with both hands and the metal faced dude is a pompous jerk. Aside from the hot chick in glasses, I don't see the attraction. The pay can't be good, the hours are long, and the bandanna across the mouth had to get stifling, after a while. Plus, if you work in the motor pool it totally sucks, as the vehicles get blown up left and right. On top of it all, Cobra Commander had a thing for Chicken ala King and chow really sucked! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 12:54:02 GMT -5
 Cobra Commander is possibly the most incompetent and cowardly leader in any fiction, 80s or otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 13:12:31 GMT -5
Cobra Commander is possibly the most incompetent and cowardly leader in any fiction, 80s or otherwise. I really never liked the G.I. Joe cartoon when they had that Cobra Commander leading them. It's too far out for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 13:15:54 GMT -5
I did like G.I. Joe - when it was realistic, and you could believe in these special forces guys combating Cobra. The comics were even more rooted in realism.
But then they had Serpentor show up (a villain made from the DNA of history's tyrants). Cool character visually. Sort of a guilty pleasure. But we went from a semi-realistic show about special forces operatives battling a terrorist organisation to a semi-science fiction show where Cobra's boss was a guy made from the DNA of dictators.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 13:18:48 GMT -5
I did like G.I. Joe - when it was realistic, and you could believe in these special forces guys combating Cobra. The comics were even more rooted in realism. But then they had Serpentor show up (a villain made from the DNA of history's tyrants). Cool character visually. Sort of a guilty pleasure. But we went from a semi-realistic show about special forces operatives battling a terrorist organisation to a semi-science fiction show where Cobra's boss was a guy made from the DNA of dictators. I understand that. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Dec 13, 2019 14:23:44 GMT -5
Having been weaned on war comics by actual veterans, I just couldn't take the inaccurate depiction of weapons, the silly gear, the lack of military protocols and such. Also, I didn't think much of the stories; certainly not the logic of them. Hama and Trimpe were the only guys involved that I can recall with military experience; and, they peppered some things in there; but, I was just not the audience for it. Plus, I was living the real military not long after everything began.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 14:40:28 GMT -5
I understand your point of view.
The cartoons were silly, and may not stand up to any logic now (the movie, as in the animated 1980s one, stood up to logic a bit more...maybe).
The comics I read, or rather reprints of them, seemed to embrace verisimilitude a bit more. One story had the G.I. Joe team working out how they could enter Cobra's HQ and plant a bug. So they worked with an extremist group. The extremist group took over Cobra's HQ, but what the extremist group didn't know was that the equipment and 'explosives' they were given were useless, it was merely a ploy to distract Cobra so that the G.I. Joe guys could slip in and place the bug.
Another story had them in the Arctic, looking for a toxic gas canister. They feared Cobra getting their hands on it and blackmailing the world.
The cartoon plots had a McGuffin or a rather silly plot at times (e.g. Cobra using a rock band to send out subliminal messages). Hey, since we're in a wrestling topic, here's the (imperfect) comparison I thought of: the G.I. Joe cartoon episodes were like the craziest, wackiest moments on Vince's watch (such as TL Hopper or Duke Droese) while the G.I. Joe comics I read were akin to JCP in the mid-to-late 80s. They had a credibility.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2019 21:37:38 GMT -5
King Kong Bundy vs Andre the Giant -- 1985 Match
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 7:56:33 GMT -5
Always loved King Kong Bundy. In fact, he was one of the first wrestling figures my mother bought me:  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 14:49:17 GMT -5
100% Ownership RAW Match ... Flair vs McMahon
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