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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 14:02:07 GMT -5
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I like Dean Malenko. I always enjoyed seeing him on Nitro. I knew I wasn't going to get an entertainment spectacle. I knew there wasn't going to be a flashy promo. But I enjoyed seeing what moves he would perform. One of my favourite matches of his is the one he had against Rey Mysterio Jr. at Bash at the Beach 1996.
Speaking of BATB '96, that brings me to another point: along with Survivor Series 1997, that card has been overshadowed by the main events. Depressingly so. Does anyone remember Vader and Goldust's argument at the latter PPV? Can anyone remember Mankind's brawl with Kane? As for BATB, does anyone really think or talk about Ric Flair winning another US Championship or the aforementioned Malenko/Mysterio Jr. bout?
Yes, I get that Hogan's heel turn and the Montreal Screwjob WERE big. I get that we're still dissecting it decades later. And I totally get that main events are probably meant to do that (does anyone really talk about any WM VI match other than Hogan/Warrior?). But it is a shame.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 14:09:12 GMT -5
I like Dean Malenko. I always enjoyed seeing him on Nitro. I knew I wasn't going to get an entertainment spectacle. I knew there wasn't going to be a flashy promo. But I enjoyed seeing what moves he would perform. One of my favourite matches of his is the one he had against Rey Mysterio Jr. at Bash at the Beach 1996. I'm a big Dean Malenko Fan ... Man with a thousand holds and really one of the best technical wrestlers in WCW. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 14:16:03 GMT -5
I saw a photo in WCW Magazine of Malenko battling Sting (Sting's attire would have suggested this was before his Crow phase). I have searched for this match on the WWF Network. No sign. I can only presume it wasn't a TV taping. Shame, I'd have loved to have seen it.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 26, 2019 19:07:30 GMT -5
NWA Powerrr Week 8......  Basically, just one big PPV pre-show; about as boring as listening to Al Gore read the indicia to an issue of The New Yorker. We got one match; Question mark vs Zane Dawson, mask vs reciting Shakespeare. It was an empty arena match. Not totally sure; but, Lagan talked about something surprising them and improvising from it. I believe it was the Question Mark getting over with the live crowd, which probably led to this match being done after they were gone. We got a 2-part feature on Thunder Rosa's fight at Combate Americas. Eli Drake cut a promo at Championship Wrestling from Hollywood (where he got his early start). Whole lot of Joe Galli. They announced that the NWA title match, at the PPV will be two out of three falls. If this was a damage control episode, it failed. If it was a promo for the PPV, it failed to make it exciting. This was just boring tv and didn't do much for their cause. The running commentary, during the live stream was all about Cornette and chicken. Corny is still the most over guy related to the NWA and that doesn't bode well for their future. They need to grab the audience's attention and put the focus back on the wrestlers and angles. Dave Lagana had talked about maybe getting 9 episodes out of the taping, which was planned to produce 8 episodes; so, this might have been the end result. Or, it might have been an attempt to buy time until they can edit the last episode to remove Cornette (if they will). |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 26, 2019 19:09:24 GMT -5
ps no fake commercials, either; just the Highspots ad (who sell bootleg wrestling footage and lower grade shoot interviews).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2019 21:54:50 GMT -5
3 Best GOLDBERG matches in WCW
Last one is a pure Goldberg ... my personal favorite of mine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 10:08:07 GMT -5
My Top 5 Wrestlers that I really liked the Most
1) Sting -- Why, he is probably one of the most charismatic wrestler that I ever known and I wished that he gotten into WWF/WWE sooner being stuck at WCW and TNA Impact. His greatest weapon is the Scorpion Deathlock and the Stinger Splash. Ideal Size 6'2" and 250 pounds ... perfect size of speed and power.
2) Rey Mysterio Jr. -- This little guy has all the heart and mindset to be a professional wrestler and for his amazing ability to get himself out of jam and his blazing quickness he really knows how to use his size to his advantages.
3) and 4) Hawk and Animal -- The Road Warriors and the Legion of Doom -- an unknown wrestler told the world that they are walking refrigerators and they use their talents to achieve Tag Team Supremacy with Paul E. Ellering rules the world and their trademark -- What a Rush gets the Crowd in frenzy mode. Unbelievable moves and a Crowd Favorites.
Last and not least; 5. The Legendary Undertaker -- Saw him a couple of times and I'm blown away by his entrance and his size of 6 feet 10 and 300 pounds -- he is the Stinger on Steroids and when he lost to Brock Lesnar in Wrestlemania 30 made me upset and sad at the same time. Totally awesome spectacle and when the Deadman walks; his makes his presence felt real good.
I loved them all dearly.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 10:18:29 GMT -5
The first time I saw Undertaker live was during a UK tour in late 1996. He took on (and beat) Vader. It was awe-inspiring when his music started - and he is so big in person.
I like all of your choices. Speaking of the Road Warriors, if there was ever a dream match for me, it'd have been Road Warriors vs. The Mega Powers!
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 27, 2019 13:11:54 GMT -5
The first time I saw Undertaker live was during a UK tour in late 1996. He took on (and beat) Vader. It was awe-inspiring when his music started - and he is so big in person. I like all of your choices. Speaking of the Road Warriors, if there was ever a dream match for me, it'd have been Road Warriors vs. The Mega Powers! Bet Hogan would sell for them; like it or not! Macho had a match with Hawk, tough not in a ring. They got into an fracas at a concert and Macho didn't come out of it well. Hawk was a pretty bad dude. Macho was on better footing slapping around Superstar Bill Dundee. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 27, 2019 13:17:52 GMT -5
My most loved.........
!. Ric Flair-just endlessly entertaining in the ring and on the mic; always worth seeing.
2. Ricky Steamboat-could hang with anybody and there was never a better babyface. Put him with Flair and it was electric.
3. Barry Windham-In his prime, there was no one more natural in the ring. He was fluid and solid and everything he did just looked amazing.
4. Brad Armstrong-Brad rarely got to o more than put people over, apart from tag matches and the Light Heavyweight title; but, he was so smooth in the ring. When they put him under a mask as Arachnaman and Badstreet, you could always tell it was him, by the way he moved around the ring. He was like Fred Astaire on a wrestling mat.
5. Tiger Mask-a living superhero, in the ring. In his day, he broke all the rules and redefined what wrestling could be and everyone has copied him ever since.
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Post by wickedmountain on Nov 27, 2019 15:26:02 GMT -5
A really cool song about wrestling taken from dead kennedys california uber alles changed to Pedro morales !
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 27, 2019 16:22:18 GMT -5
Pedro is another who gets forgotten since he was done by the time Jr bought out his father. I saw him, as IC champ, on a few of the MSG cards (when they used to show them on the USA Network, before they got the All-American tv show). He was great to watch and moved fast, when he wanted to, mixing a bit of old style aerial, without going full on lucha. Resally, he was a bigger deal, on the West Coast; but, drew pretty sizeable Puerto Rican crowds to MSG. He held the WWA title in Los Angeles (their world title), defeating the Destroyer, Dick Beyer.
Here's Pedro facing the other forgotten champion (well, along with Stan Stasiak), Ivan Koloff...
(retro-commentary from Jim Ross)
Look at that crowd erupt!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2019 16:35:58 GMT -5
The first time I saw Undertaker live was during a UK tour in late 1996. He took on (and beat) Vader. It was awe-inspiring when his music started - and he is so big in person. I like all of your choices. Speaking of the Road Warriors, if there was ever a dream match for me, it'd have been Road Warriors vs. The Mega Powers! Bet Hogan would sell for them; like it or not! Macho had a match with Hawk, tough not in a ring. They got into an fracas at a concert and Macho didn't come out of it well. Hawk was a pretty bad dude. Macho was on better footing slapping around Superstar Bill Dundee. Despite being a Hulkamaniac, the more I think about Hogan's tenure in WCW, the more frustrated I am about certain aspects. I mean, just what were the rules in that Doomsday Cage match at Uncensored 1996? Then there's the fact that after winning the WCW Heavyweight Championship in July 1994, he didn't lose it until October 1995 - and even then, he wasn't pinned for the belt. As a Hulkamaniac, I was always pleased to see him; as an objective person, I can say that he had far too much power, some of it to the detriment of those who had spent years building up WCW. As the official Hulk Hogan statistician, the figures make for interesting reading. Hogan appeared at 43 PPV events during his WCW tenure. Out of those 43 PPVs, he was the victor at 27 of them. That includes the silliness at Bash at the Beach 2000 where he pinned Jeff Jarrett in that nonsense match. He lost 13 of those PPV matches. One could be generous and say he lost 12 as one of those 'losses' is not winning the 60-Man Battle Royal at World War 3 in 1995. Out of those 43 matches, 3 of them were no-contests. So he did very well. And he did put himself first always. I mean, I was on the edge of my seat when Luger made him submit on an episode of Nitro, winning the WCW Heavyweight Championship, but, of course, Hogan won it back a short while later at Road Wild 1997. He did seem more altruistic when he returned to WWE in 2002. He did lose to the Rock (although he stole the show). He did submit to Kurt Angle. But was he 100% altruistic? Brock Lesnar pinned him on SmackDown in late 2002. I have no idea if it is true, but I did read that Hogan had petitioned to get his loss back by beating Lesnar at Survivor Series 2002. Of course, that didn't happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2019 8:02:44 GMT -5
I have a Magic 8-Ball here. I thought I'd ask it a wrestling question. So I asked it this:
Would Superfly Jimmy Snuka have beaten Sgt. Slaughter?
Answer: "Outlook not so good."
(Did they ever actually have a match?).
I don't like to put pressure on the Magic 8-Ball. But I'll allow the participants in this thread to put a question to me, which I will put to the Magic 8-Ball. Be aware, my Magic 8-Ball has a 100% accuracy rate.
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Post by codystarbuck on Nov 28, 2019 11:56:44 GMT -5
I have a Magic 8-Ball here. I thought I'd ask it a wrestling question. So I asked it this: Would Superfly Jimmy Snuka have beaten Sgt. Slaughter? Answer: "Outlook not so good." (Did they ever actually have a match?). I don't like to put pressure on the Magic 8-Ball. But I'll allow the participants in this thread to put a question to me, which I will put to the Magic 8-Ball. Be aware, my Magic 8-Ball has a 100% accuracy rate. They wrestled each other multiple times, in the Portland territory, in the mid-70s. Slaughter was then-wrestling under his real name, Bob Remus. Slaughter wasn't a regular in Mid-Atlantic, when Snuka was a heel there and Snuka was in the WWF, when Slaughter was a heel, in Mid-Atlantic. By the time Slaughter was a regular in the WWF (he had been through earlier, as an opponent for Backlund, as a heel), Snuka was a babyface and Slaughter was turned babyface fairly quickly, for the angle with the Iron Sheik. And, yes, Snuka did defeat Bob Remus. |
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