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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 12, 2024 15:44:55 GMT -5
I recently watched Summerslam 1995
This is from Pittsburgh. Vince McMahon with Jerry Lawler (until the Yankem match) and Dok Hendrix.
The main event is Diesel vs. King Mabel for the WWF Championship.
The first match is Hakushi vs. 1-2-3 Kid
Hakushi wins when Kid goes for a spinning kick, but Hakushi catches his leg and plants him for the pin. This was a very good match. An excellent choice for an opener. I slight surprise that Hakushi won, but that’s fine with me. I know Hakushi slides down the card and will be gone from the WWF before too long. I read that they wanted him to tone down his cool moves because crowds were cheering him. I know we don’t want the crowd cheering heels, but that sounds kinda dumb to me. I think they should have made him a babyface, but of course we can’t have a Japanese babyface! While we’re on the subject of “coulda” they should have switched Luger back to a heel. The face thing wasn’t working and his booking was getting worse, and of course he was gone from the WWF very shortly after this PPV, In fact, he wasn’t under contract even at this point.
Next match is Hunter Hearst Helmsley vs. Bob “Spark Plug” Holly
Triple H gets the win with the Pedigree when Holly ducks his head too soon on a backdrop attempt. I thought this was a decent match, though perhaps a bit disappointing considering the talent level of both guys.
Next is The Smoking Gunns vs. The Blu Brothers (w/ Uncle Zebekiah)
I’m not sure why the Gunns are facing the Blu Brothers rather than getting a title shot against Owen Hart and Yokozuna (who aren’t even at this PPV, for some reason) but whatever. Who am I to question the wisdom of WWF/WWE creative? Anyway, the Gunns win (thank goodness) with their Sidewinder (an assisted leg drop) and the match was decent, though nothing special. I am not a fan of the Blu Brothers but the Smoking Gunns are pretty good in the ring.
One more thing, I’m sick of the announcers (mostly Vince) debating where it’s Jacob or Eli in the ring (since they’re identical twins). Who cares? Just call the darn match! Vince talks way too much about not knowing if it’s Jacob or Eli. Another annoying thing is that McMahon says “anything can happen in the WWF” about 10 times per broadcast. I’m getting sick of hearing that.
Barry Horowitz vs. Skip (w/Sunny)
The story here is that Barry Horowitz, being billed as having never won a WWF match, and thus is 0 and however many hundred, pulled off the win of a lifetime when Skip got arrogant and was rolled up by Horowitz while he (skip) was showing off by doing pushups. Then, Skip demanded a rematch, and said he’d beat Barry in 10 minutes or less (one minute for Barry and nine minutes for pushups) so there was a 10 minute time limit. Barry lasted the 10 minutes and thus won the match by its stipulations. Then, just before this PPV, Skip inadvertently cost Hakushi a win against Horowitz by getting on the apron during their match and Hakushi crashed into Skip, allowing Horowitz to roll him up for yet another win! Anyway, we have a spirited match here, with excellent storytelling, and then Hakushi comes ringside, stands on the apron, and Skip is figuring he’ll do something to him for revenge. Hakushi then leaps into the ring, over top of everyone without making contact, and goes out the other side of the ring. Skip is distracted by this and it allows Horowitz to roll him up for the win! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins!
This was a really fun match. I loved the story told here, both guys performed well, and it was nice to see the faithful hand Barry Horowitz get this PPV shot. And the crowd loved it.
Next up is the Women’s Championship match: Alundra Blayze (champ) vs. Bertha Faye (w/Harvey Wippleman)
Faye broke Blayze’s nose a couple of months ago (actually, Blayze had a nose job) so Blayze wants her revenge. In the incident where Faye broke Alundra’s nose, which was Faye’s first appearance, she came out with facepaint and wearing all black and attacked Alundra from behind and just beat on her. She looked really badass. Then, for some reason, they decided to turn her into a joke figure. She wears these ridiculous little girl type outfits and goes prancing around and Harvey Whippleman is in love with her (I read they in real life they didn’t get along) and frankly, I think the WWF shot itself in the foot here. Instead of building her up as a monster heel, they turned her into a joke so that they could make weight jokes about her, I suppose. Also, nobody from the women’s division (which, as far as I can tell, has maybe four women in it at this point, if that) has appeared on TV at all in at least two months, except for a short promo by Blayze a week ago, so this match has had no buildup at all. Some people probably forgot who these women are at this point. Oh, and in the introductions, the ring announcer referred to Alundra Blayze as “he”. Come on, she’s not that ugly!
Anyway, Faye wins with a powerbomb in an upset to take the title. The match was okay, but not great. Blayze does some cool stuff, but Faye is not very good. The crowd really didn’t care about this.
Oh, and I get some Vlad the superfan sightings here, as usual.
Next is the Casket Match: The Undertaker (w/Paul Bearer) vs. Kama (w/Ted Dibiase)
So Kama took the Undertaker’s urn at a previous PPV and had it melted down and turned into a neckless, so this is a grudge match for the Undertaker. However, that was a couple of months ago, and this feud has had no buildup or no progression or interaction between these guys since then. The WWF has really done a poor job of promoting most of the matches in this PPV, except for the ladder match and the WWF title match.
The Undertaker won, of course. This match wasn’t great, but was decent enough. It did last too long though. Kama had some really long rest holds on Undertaker. Take those away, and this match was all right. The crowd loved the end, though, so I guess this match served its purpose. Everybody seemed to forget the rules of a casket match. Kama went for a pin at one point and even announcer Jerry Lawler talked about getting a pin.
Next match is Bret “Hitman” Hart vs. Isaac Yankem DDS
Jerry Lawler wanted revenge against Bret Hart for losing the Kiss My Foot match, so he got his demented dentist, Isaac Yankem, to do his dirty work for him. Luckily, Yankem would get a better gimmick later in his career. I can understand Lawler wanting to get someone else to take care of Hart for him, but why make him a dentist? That just makes it a bit too silly. To make it worse, Yankem didn’t have one single wrestling appearance (at least not on the top two short – Raw and Superstars) prior to this PPV. It’s ridiculous to put someone into a major match in a PPV with zero prior TV appearances. The fans weren’t too invested in this, for obvious reasons. It goes back to what I said about the WWF doing a poor job of building most of the matches for this PPV.
Anyway, the match itself was okay. The ending was bad (Bret wins on a DQ when Lawler gets involved) but Bret did his best to help carry the very green Yankem, who did at least give a good effort. And I’ll once again complain that Bret Hart’s music stinks, and they should have kept his Hart Foundation music.
Next we get the Intercontinental Championship Ladder Match: Shawn Michaels (champ) vs. Razor Ramon
This was a really great match. It went for over 25 minutes and the time was well used. I don’t know whether this match or their Wrestlemania 10 ladder match was better, but they’re both great. Shaw wins, and the end was slightly botched as Shawn had trouble getting the belt down and had to try it again, but other than that, a classic match. I knew Shawn would win, but that didn’t detract from it.
And the main event is for the WWE Championship: Diesel (champ) vs. King Mabel (w/Sir Mo)
This match kinda sucked. Diesel wins with a clothesline off the ropes for the win. It wasn’t well executed, possibly because Mabel did a sit-down splash on Diesel’s back even though Diesel told him not to do anything to his back because he had a back injury. Vince was reportedly furious and wanted to fire Mabel but Diesel supposedly talked him out of it. Oh, and it wouldn’t be a mid-90’s WWF PPV without a ref bump so yes, we get one of those here, too. Good, I was worried that the streak would be broken.
Lex Luger shows up at the end to make the save as Mabel and Mo attack Diesel after the match. Really odd to see Luger here as he wasn’t appeared at all in the PPV and hasn’t really appeared on TV at all in a while (though he was doing some house shows) and the only storyline with him is that his tag team partner turned heel so I guess we weren’t sure whether or not Luger turned heel with him or not. Well, it didn’t matter as Luger turned to WCW a week or two after this, anyway.
Overall, I thought that this was a decent PPV. One great match (the ladder match), one bad match (the main event) and everything else ranged from bearable to enjoyable. One of the better 1995 WWF PPV’s, anyway. However, once again the main event is the worst match on the card (or close to it) thanks to McMahon’s obsession with huge guys regardless of their skill level. The WWF roster in general is a bit thin at this point, though. As an aside, they set up a feud between Bam Bam Bigelow (who recently turned face - McMahon is falsely claiming that he quit the Million Dollar Corporation, but he was fired first) and Ted DiBiase's Million Dollar Corporation, but, much like the Undertaker-Kama feud, after setting things up they have proceeded to ignore it for a couple of months. Very odd booking.
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Post by dbutler69 on Sept 12, 2024 15:48:04 GMT -5
I recently watched Fall Brawl 1995
This is from Asheville, North Carolina, with Tony Schiavone, Bobby Hennan, and Gene Okerlund.
The main event is the Hulkamaniacs vs. the Dungeon of Doom.
The first match is Brian Pillman vs. Johnny B. Badd
The winner is going to get a US Title shot against Sting.
Johnny B. Badd beats Brian Pillman after a crossbody off the ropes at 29:13. This was an excellent match. It started very slowly, but built into something really good. Some very good storytelling here, too, though the end was perhaps a little anticlimactic I the way it happened. Both guys are faces here. One complaint I have is that this match had a 20 minute time limit. After the 20 minutes expired, and the bell rung to end the match, they then announced that the match must have a winner, so it will go into sudden death overtime. Why the HECK even both to have a time limit in the first place, then??? That makes NO sense! That’s just typical WCW stupidity. Also, as the match was about to expire (before anyone knew that they’d continue the match anyway) both wrestlers are trying submission holds, which doesn’t make a ton of sense with the clock ticking down. There was also one point where the ref stopped the count because one of the wrestlers was under the plane of the ropes (though not touching the rope). They never do this in WWF. There, you have to actually touch the rope. I guess WCW has slightly different rules. At least WCW did something smart by having this as an opening match.
Next match is Cobra v. Sgt. Craig “Pitbull” Pittman
Both guys are new to WCW, especially Cobra, whom I’ve neve seen before. They both have military gimmicks and I guess the story here is that Pittman (the heel) abandoned Cobra on a mission. Anyway, Cobra comes out to the ring, but Pittman is nowhere to be found. As Cobra is looking over to the entranceway, waiting for Pittman to show up, Pittman reels down from the rafters behind Cobra and attacks him from behind! I have to admit, that was a very cool entrance. However, the match itself was nothing, as Pittman slaps his armbar submission hold onto Cobra after about a minute. The entrance took considerably long than the match.
Next is the WCW Television Title Match: The Renegade (champ) vs. Diamond Dallas Page (w/The Diamond Doll and Max Muscle)
DDP is able to finish off the Renegade (a second rate Ultimate Warrior) with his Diamond Cutter after Max Muscle grabs Renegade’s foot. The Diamond Doll looks unhappy over her man’s victory, so I guess there’s trouble in paradise. This match was better than I thought it would be. It was nothing special, but it was decent.
Next match is for the WCW World Tag Team Championship: Bunkhouse Buck and Dirty Dick Slater (champs) w/ Colonel Robert Parker vs. Harlem Heat w/ Sister Sherri
We’ve got a budding romance between Colonel Parker and Sherri as a side show here. The Nasty Boys come in and hit Slater with a boot for some reason, allowing Harlem Heat to cover and win. We have new tag team champs! The usual chaotic WCW tag team match. Anyway, this match kinda stunk, IMHO. Though both teams are heels, the crowd seemed to be rooting for Harlem Heat. Can’t say as though I blame them.
Next is Arn Anderson v. Ric Flair
We get promos from both guys as well as a video package showing how these long time best friends have become enemies and now will face each other in the ring.
This match went over 22 minutes and Arn Anderson gets the upset win when Brian Pillman comes ringside and kicks Flair in the head (which obviously the ref didn’t see) which allows Anderson to deliver his DDT and cover Flair for the win!
This was a very good match. Excellent storytelling and good action.
Finally, we get the WarGames Match: Hulkaaniacs (Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Sting & Lex Luge) vs. the Dungeon of Doom (Kamala, the Shark, the Zodiac & Meng - w/Kevin Sullivan)
The stipulation is if Hogan’s team wins he gets five minutes alone in the cage with Kevin Sullivan
It’s tough to see the action in these WarGames matches, with the type of cage they use plus the double ring.
Anyway, Hogan of course cheats the second he enters the rings, throwing white powder in the heels’ eyes. What a scumbag. Of course everyone loves it, though. He follows with the back scratch and choking with a piece of tape from his wrist. What a hero.
The “good” guys win when Hogan (of course) gets the submission on Zodiac in a Camel Clutch of sorts. The end was a bit anticlimactic. Personally I thought the match was boring, but the crowd seemed to enjoy it, so what do I know?
Afterwards, Kevin Sullivan is supposed to get into the cage with Hogan. He tries to escape but is forced back in. Hogan beats in him for a couple of minutes, then the Giant (supposedly Andre’s son, and he had run over Hogan’s motorcycle earlier in the day) comes in and attacks hogan from behind and beats him down. Hogan is left in a heap as they call for parmedics. Heenan is laughing hysterically to close the show, which was awesome.
So overall, I thought that the opening match (Badd-Pillman) was excellent, Flair-Anderson was quite good, and the rest of the show was not very good. However, I think a lot of people liked the main event, so that’s fine. Overall, a somewhat below average PPV, though not necessarily terrible.
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Post by commond on Sept 12, 2024 16:02:27 GMT -5
There's an old story that Fallbrawl '95 was a rib on Pillman as they didn't think he'd be able to work such a long match with Badd. I don't know how true it is, but the narrative around that match has always been that Pillman went out there and killed it. That was before people looked past Badd's gimmick and acknowledged the fact that he was a decent worker, so it may have been old-school internet nonsense, or Pillman could have fed the story to Meltzer as they were pretty close at the time.
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 12, 2024 16:29:15 GMT -5
I recently watched Summerslam 1995
This is from Pittsburgh. Vince McMahon with Jerry Lawler (until the Yankem match) and Dok Hendrix. The main event is Diesel vs. King Mabel for the WWF Championship. The first match is Hakushi vs. 1-2-3 Kid
Hakushi wins when Kid goes for a spinning kick, but Hakushi catches his leg and plants him for the pin. This was a very good match. An excellent choice for an opener. I slight surprise that Hakushi won, but that’s fine with me. I know Hakushi slides down the card and will be gone from the WWF before too long. I read that they wanted him to tone down his cool moves because crowds were cheering him. I know we don’t want the crowd cheering heels, but that sounds kinda dumb to me. I think they should have made him a babyface, but of course we can’t have a Japanese babyface! While we’re on the subject of “coulda” they should have switched Luger back to a heel. The face thing wasn’t working and his booking was getting worse, and of course he was gone from the WWF very shortly after this PPV, In fact, he wasn’t under contract even at this point. Next match is Hunter Hearst Helmsley vs. Bob “Spark Plug” Holly
Triple H gets the win with the Pedigree when Holly ducks his head too soon on a backdrop attempt. I thought this was a decent match, though perhaps a bit disappointing considering the talent level of both guys. Next is The Smoking Gunns vs. The Blu Brothers (w/ Uncle Zebekiah)I’m not sure why the Gunns are facing the Blu Brothers rather than getting a title shot against Owen Hart and Yokozuna (who aren’t even at this PPV, for some reason) but whatever. Who am I to question the wisdom of WWF/WWE creative? Anyway, the Gunns win (thank goodness) with their Sidewinder (an assisted leg drop) and the match was decent, though nothing special. I am not a fan of the Blu Brothers but the Smoking Gunns are pretty good in the ring. One more thing, I’m sick of the announcers (mostly Vince) debating where it’s Jacob or Eli in the ring (since they’re identical twins). Who cares? Just call the darn match! Vince talks way too much about not knowing if it’s Jacob or Eli. Another annoying thing is that McMahon says “anything can happen in the WWF” about 10 times per broadcast. I’m getting sick of hearing that. Barry Horowitz vs. Skip (w/Sunny)
The story here is that Barry Horowitz, being billed as having never won a WWF match, and thus is 0 and however many hundred, pulled off the win of a lifetime when Skip got arrogant and was rolled up by Horowitz while he (skip) was showing off by doing pushups. Then, Skip demanded a rematch, and said he’d beat Barry in 10 minutes or less (one minute for Barry and nine minutes for pushups) so there was a 10 minute time limit. Barry lasted the 10 minutes and thus won the match by its stipulations. Then, just before this PPV, Skip inadvertently cost Hakushi a win against Horowitz by getting on the apron during their match and Hakushi crashed into Skip, allowing Horowitz to roll him up for yet another win! Anyway, we have a spirited match here, with excellent storytelling, and then Hakushi comes ringside, stands on the apron, and Skip is figuring he’ll do something to him for revenge. Hakushi then leaps into the ring, over top of everyone without making contact, and goes out the other side of the ring. Skip is distracted by this and it allows Horowitz to roll him up for the win! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins! This was a really fun match. I loved the story told here, both guys performed well, and it was nice to see the faithful hand Barry Horowitz get this PPV shot. And the crowd loved it. Next up is the Women’s Championship match: Alundra Blayze (champ) vs. Bertha Faye (w/Harvey Wippleman)
Faye broke Blayze’s nose a couple of months ago (actually, Blayze had a nose job) so Blayze wants her revenge. In the incident where Faye broke Alundra’s nose, which was Faye’s first appearance, she came out with facepaint and wearing all black and attacked Alundra from behind and just beat on her. She looked really badass. Then, for some reason, they decided to turn her into a joke figure. She wears these ridiculous little girl type outfits and goes prancing around and Harvey Whippleman is in love with her (I read they in real life they didn’t get along) and frankly, I think the WWF shot itself in the foot here. Instead of building her up as a monster heel, they turned her into a joke so that they could make weight jokes about her, I suppose. Also, nobody from the women’s division (which, as far as I can tell, has maybe four women in it at this point, if that) has appeared on TV at all in at least two months, except for a short promo by Blayze a week ago, so this match has had no buildup at all. Some people probably forgot who these women are at this point. Oh, and in the introductions, the ring announcer referred to Alundra Blayze as “he”. Come on, she’s not that ugly! Anyway, Faye wins with a powerbomb in an upset to take the title. The match was okay, but not great. Blayze does some cool stuff, but Faye is not very good. The crowd really didn’t care about this. Oh, and I get some Vlad the superfan sightings here, as usual. Next is the Casket Match: The Undertaker (w/Paul Bearer) vs. Kama (w/Ted Dibiase)
So Kama took the Undertaker’s urn at a previous PPV and had it melted down and turned into a neckless, so this is a grudge match for the Undertaker. However, that was a couple of months ago, and this feud has had no buildup or no progression or interaction between these guys since then. The WWF has really done a poor job of promoting most of the matches in this PPV, except for the ladder match and the WWF title match. The Undertaker won, of course. This match wasn’t great, but was decent enough. It did last too long though. Kama had some really long rest holds on Undertaker. Take those away, and this match was all right. The crowd loved the end, though, so I guess this match served its purpose. Everybody seemed to forget the rules of a casket match. Kama went for a pin at one point and even announcer Jerry Lawler talked about getting a pin. Next match is Bret “Hitman” Hart vs. Isaac Yankem DDS
Jerry Lawler wanted revenge against Bret Hart for losing the Kiss My Foot match, so he got his demented dentist, Isaac Yankem, to do his dirty work for him. Luckily, Yankem would get a better gimmick later in his career. I can understand Lawler wanting to get someone else to take care of Hart for him, but why make him a dentist? That just makes it a bit too silly. To make it worse, Yankem didn’t have one single wrestling appearance (at least not on the top two short – Raw and Superstars) prior to this PPV. It’s ridiculous to put someone into a major match in a PPV with zero prior TV appearances. The fans weren’t too invested in this, for obvious reasons. It goes back to what I said about the WWF doing a poor job of building most of the matches for this PPV. Anyway, the match itself was okay. The ending was bad (Bret wins on a DQ when Lawler gets involved) but Bret did his best to help carry the very green Yankem, who did at least give a good effort. And I’ll once again complain that Bret Hart’s music stinks, and they should have kept his Hart Foundation music. Next we get the Intercontinental Championship Ladder Match: Shawn Michaels (champ) vs. Razor Ramon
This was a really great match. It went for over 25 minutes and the time was well used. I don’t know whether this match or their Wrestlemania 10 ladder match was better, but they’re both great. Shaw wins, and the end was slightly botched as Shawn had trouble getting the belt down and had to try it again, but other than that, a classic match. I knew Shawn would win, but that didn’t detract from it. And the main event is for the WWE Championship: Diesel (champ) vs. King Mabel (w/Sir Mo)
This match kinda sucked. Diesel wins with a clothesline off the ropes for the win. It wasn’t well executed, possibly because Mabel did a sit-down splash on Diesel’s back even though Diesel told him not to do anything to his back because he had a back injury. Vince was reportedly furious and wanted to fire Mabel but Diesel supposedly talked him out of it. Oh, and it wouldn’t be a mid-90’s WWF PPV without a ref bump so yes, we get one of those here, too. Good, I was worried that the streak would be broken. Lex Luger shows up at the end to make the save as Mabel and Mo attack Diesel after the match. Really odd to see Luger here as he wasn’t appeared at all in the PPV and hasn’t really appeared on TV at all in a while (though he was doing some house shows) and the only storyline with him is that his tag team partner turned heel so I guess we weren’t sure whether or not Luger turned heel with him or not. Well, it didn’t matter as Luger turned to WCW a week or two after this, anyway. Overall, I thought that this was a decent PPV. One great match (the ladder match), one bad match (the main event) and everything else ranged from bearable to enjoyable. One of the better 1995 WWF PPV’s, anyway. However, once again the main event is the worst match on the card (or close to it) thanks to McMahon’s obsession with huge guys regardless of their skill level. The WWF roster in general is a bit thin at this point, though. As an aside, they set up a feud between Bam Bam Bigelow (who recently turned face - McMahon is falsely claiming that he quit the Million Dollar Corporation, but he was fired first) and Ted DiBiase's Million Dollar Corporation, but, much like the Undertaker-Kama feud, after setting things up they have proceeded to ignore it for a couple of months. Very odd booking. I thought this was a vast improvement on the two previous SummerSlam PPVs. I won’t repeat what I posted about some of these matches in my “1995: The Year In Review” post. I do think there is a lot that is enjoyable here, although the women’s ‘division’ is a joke. To think we went from “one, two or three opponents” at a time for Blayze to an era where there’s a Woman’s Royal Rumble. I’d heard there were plans for Blayze vs. Sunny at some point, which might have been fun in a way, with the veteran teaching the arrogant youngster a lesson. The Lex Luger run in is really random. Why is he there? It’s as random as when Papa Shango ran in during the Hogan/Sid Justice WM VIII bout despite him having, to the very best of my knowledge, no history with either Hogan, Justice or Wippleman. Did Luger have a beef with King Mabel? I don’t remember one. He had no particular affinity with babyface Diesel. So I really would love to have seen an explanation as to exactly why he was there. I know it’s pedantic, but I like run-ins to have logic. (There was a time when Hulk Hogan ran in after a Rockers vs. Powers of Pain bout; I suppose you could argue the heavyweight was defending the lightweights from a beat-down by two brutes, but at that point, it just seemed random) I wonder, were there plans for Luger? Dissension between him and Diesel, perhaps? It would have made more sense for someone like Shawn Michaels to do the run-in. Honestly, logic should matter even in professional wrestling. |
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 12, 2024 16:39:16 GMT -5
I recently watched Fall Brawl 1995This is from Asheville, North Carolina, with Tony Schiavone, Bobby Hennan, and Gene Okerlund. The main event is the Hulkamaniacs vs. the Dungeon of Doom. The first match is Brian Pillman vs. Johnny B. Badd
The winner is going to get a US Title shot against Sting. Johnny B. Badd beats Brian Pillman after a crossbody off the ropes at 29:13. This was an excellent match. It started very slowly, but built into something really good. Some very good storytelling here, too, though the end was perhaps a little anticlimactic I the way it happened. Both guys are faces here. One complaint I have is that this match had a 20 minute time limit. After the 20 minutes expired, and the bell rung to end the match, they then announced that the match must have a winner, so it will go into sudden death overtime. Why the HECK even both to have a time limit in the first place, then??? That makes NO sense! That’s just typical WCW stupidity. Also, as the match was about to expire (before anyone knew that they’d continue the match anyway) both wrestlers are trying submission holds, which doesn’t make a ton of sense with the clock ticking down. There was also one point where the ref stopped the count because one of the wrestlers was under the plane of the ropes (though not touching the rope). They never do this in WWF. There, you have to actually touch the rope. I guess WCW has slightly different rules. At least WCW did something smart by having this as an opening match. Next match is Cobra v. Sgt. Craig “Pitbull” Pittman
Both guys are new to WCW, especially Cobra, whom I’ve neve seen before. They both have military gimmicks and I guess the story here is that Pittman (the heel) abandoned Cobra on a mission. Anyway, Cobra comes out to the ring, but Pittman is nowhere to be found. As Cobra is looking over to the entranceway, waiting for Pittman to show up, Pittman reels down from the rafters behind Cobra and attacks him from behind! I have to admit, that was a very cool entrance. However, the match itself was nothing, as Pittman slaps his armbar submission hold onto Cobra after about a minute. The entrance took considerably long than the match. Next is the WCW Television Title Match: The Renegade (champ) vs. Diamond Dallas Page (w/The Diamond Doll and Max Muscle)
DDP is able to finish off the Renegade (a second rate Ultimate Warrior) with his Diamond Cutter after Max Muscle grabs Renegade’s foot. The Diamond Doll looks unhappy over her man’s victory, so I guess there’s trouble in paradise. This match was better than I thought it would be. It was nothing special, but it was decent. Next match is for the WCW World Tag Team Championship: Bunkhouse Buck and Dirty Dick Slater (champs) w/ Colonel Robert Parker vs. Harlem Heat w/ Sister Sherri
We’ve got a budding romance between Colonel Parker and Sherri as a side show here. The Nasty Boys come in and hit Slater with a boot for some reason, allowing Harlem Heat to cover and win. We have new tag team champs! The usual chaotic WCW tag team match. Anyway, this match kinda stunk, IMHO. Though both teams are heels, the crowd seemed to be rooting for Harlem Heat. Can’t say as though I blame them. Next is Arn Anderson v. Ric Flair
We get promos from both guys as well as a video package showing how these long time best friends have become enemies and now will face each other in the ring. This match went over 22 minutes and Arn Anderson gets the upset win when Brian Pillman comes ringside and kicks Flair in the head (which obviously the ref didn’t see) which allows Anderson to deliver his DDT and cover Flair for the win! This was a very good match. Excellent storytelling and good action. Finally, we get the WarGames Match: Hulkaaniacs (Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Sting & Lex Luge) vs. the Dungeon of Doom (Kamala, the Shark, the Zodiac & Meng - w/Kevin Sullivan)
The stipulation is if Hogan’s team wins he gets five minutes alone in the cage with Kevin Sullivan It’s tough to see the action in these WarGames matches, with the type of cage they use plus the double ring. Anyway, Hogan of course cheats the second he enters the rings, throwing white powder in the heels’ eyes. What a scumbag. Of course everyone loves it, though. He follows with the back scratch and choking with a piece of tape from his wrist. What a hero. The “good” guys win when Hogan (of course) gets the submission on Zodiac in a Camel Clutch of sorts. The end was a bit anticlimactic. Personally I thought the match was boring, but the crowd seemed to enjoy it, so what do I know? Afterwards, Kevin Sullivan is supposed to get into the cage with Hogan. He tries to escape but is forced back in. Hogan beats in him for a couple of minutes, then the Giant (supposedly Andre’s son, and he had run over Hogan’s motorcycle earlier in the day) comes in and attacks hogan from behind and beats him down. Hogan is left in a heap as they call for parmedics. Heenan is laughing hysterically to close the show, which was awesome. So overall, I thought that the opening match (Badd-Pillman) was excellent, Flair-Anderson was quite good, and the rest of the show was not very good. However, I think a lot of people liked the main event, so that’s fine. Overall, a somewhat below average PPV, though not necessarily terrible. I pretty much agree with all of that. I don’t know if it’s apocryphal or not, but I did once read that Badd was complaining about pain after the match (rightfully so), and Hogan said something like, “If you knew how to work, you wouldn’t need to be so hurt.” Or words to that effect. If it is true, I think the logic was that Hogan was telling Badd that lots of high-risk moves lead to pain, whereas Hogan did more with less and wasn’t as hurt. Although, decades later, with Hogan complaining about what all those legdrops did to his hips, it sounds silly. Arn Anderson vs. Ric Flair is the match of the card, a big dream match at that point. I agree with your assessment of it. I did quite like the Harlem Heat/Buck & Slater feud. WarGames just got worse as time went on, I felt (although 1996 is really good). I never liked the concept, and I am dismayed it now may be a permanent fixture of the Survivor Series event. My main issue with it has always been that until all of the guys are in the ring, no pinfalls or submissions can occur, so until everyone is in there, the other guys are passing time. There have been good WarGames bout, but I think it’s a tired and outdated gimmick today - and may have been back in 1995. I feel it’s had its day, and its living off its nostalgic reputation. I did find the “Giant being the son of Andre” nonsense to be distasteful. Didn’t Hogan, on one of the TV shows, say something like, “I’ll bury you like your father.” Or some such nonsense. What a nice babyface, eh? Vader was supposed to be on Hogan’s team, but as he left the promotion, Lex Luger took over. Would Vader’s inclusion have meant a better bout? I don’t know, my opinion on WarGames stands. But I have to say, why would Vader team with an egomaniac like Hogan who had dodged him throughout 1995? Actually, what might have been a good WarGames main event is Vader turning on Hogan and hooking up with the Dungeon of Doom. But no doubt we’d have then seen the next PPV feature a main event of the “invincible, unbeatable” Hogan wrestling against Vader and Zodiac in a handicap match - and winning it. It’s sad that the WWF chose not to capitalise on Vader’s popularity after the shitty way WCW had booked Vader in 1995. I believe Vader still had momentum and something to offer in 1996, and I wish the WWF had done more with him, but I guess the Vince Ego would have to have been put aside for that. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 12, 2024 20:50:43 GMT -5
I recently watched Summerslam 1995
This is from Pittsburgh. Vince McMahon with Jerry Lawler (until the Yankem match) and Dok Hendrix. The main event is Diesel vs. King Mabel for the WWF Championship. The first match is Hakushi vs. 1-2-3 Kid
Hakushi wins when Kid goes for a spinning kick, but Hakushi catches his leg and plants him for the pin. This was a very good match. An excellent choice for an opener. I slight surprise that Hakushi won, but that’s fine with me. I know Hakushi slides down the card and will be gone from the WWF before too long. I read that they wanted him to tone down his cool moves because crowds were cheering him. I know we don’t want the crowd cheering heels, but that sounds kinda dumb to me. I think they should have made him a babyface, but of course we can’t have a Japanese babyface! While we’re on the subject of “coulda” they should have switched Luger back to a heel. The face thing wasn’t working and his booking was getting worse, and of course he was gone from the WWF very shortly after this PPV, In fact, he wasn’t under contract even at this point. Next match is Hunter Hearst Helmsley vs. Bob “Spark Plug” Holly
Triple H gets the win with the Pedigree when Holly ducks his head too soon on a backdrop attempt. I thought this was a decent match, though perhaps a bit disappointing considering the talent level of both guys. Next is The Smoking Gunns vs. The Blu Brothers (w/ Uncle Zebekiah)I’m not sure why the Gunns are facing the Blu Brothers rather than getting a title shot against Owen Hart and Yokozuna (who aren’t even at this PPV, for some reason) but whatever. Who am I to question the wisdom of WWF/WWE creative? Anyway, the Gunns win (thank goodness) with their Sidewinder (an assisted leg drop) and the match was decent, though nothing special. I am not a fan of the Blu Brothers but the Smoking Gunns are pretty good in the ring. One more thing, I’m sick of the announcers (mostly Vince) debating where it’s Jacob or Eli in the ring (since they’re identical twins). Who cares? Just call the darn match! Vince talks way too much about not knowing if it’s Jacob or Eli. Another annoying thing is that McMahon says “anything can happen in the WWF” about 10 times per broadcast. I’m getting sick of hearing that. Barry Horowitz vs. Skip (w/Sunny)
The story here is that Barry Horowitz, being billed as having never won a WWF match, and thus is 0 and however many hundred, pulled off the win of a lifetime when Skip got arrogant and was rolled up by Horowitz while he (skip) was showing off by doing pushups. Then, Skip demanded a rematch, and said he’d beat Barry in 10 minutes or less (one minute for Barry and nine minutes for pushups) so there was a 10 minute time limit. Barry lasted the 10 minutes and thus won the match by its stipulations. Then, just before this PPV, Skip inadvertently cost Hakushi a win against Horowitz by getting on the apron during their match and Hakushi crashed into Skip, allowing Horowitz to roll him up for yet another win! Anyway, we have a spirited match here, with excellent storytelling, and then Hakushi comes ringside, stands on the apron, and Skip is figuring he’ll do something to him for revenge. Hakushi then leaps into the ring, over top of everyone without making contact, and goes out the other side of the ring. Skip is distracted by this and it allows Horowitz to roll him up for the win! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins! This was a really fun match. I loved the story told here, both guys performed well, and it was nice to see the faithful hand Barry Horowitz get this PPV shot. And the crowd loved it. Next up is the Women’s Championship match: Alundra Blayze (champ) vs. Bertha Faye (w/Harvey Wippleman)
Faye broke Blayze’s nose a couple of months ago (actually, Blayze had a nose job) so Blayze wants her revenge. In the incident where Faye broke Alundra’s nose, which was Faye’s first appearance, she came out with facepaint and wearing all black and attacked Alundra from behind and just beat on her. She looked really badass. Then, for some reason, they decided to turn her into a joke figure. She wears these ridiculous little girl type outfits and goes prancing around and Harvey Whippleman is in love with her (I read they in real life they didn’t get along) and frankly, I think the WWF shot itself in the foot here. Instead of building her up as a monster heel, they turned her into a joke so that they could make weight jokes about her, I suppose. Also, nobody from the women’s division (which, as far as I can tell, has maybe four women in it at this point, if that) has appeared on TV at all in at least two months, except for a short promo by Blayze a week ago, so this match has had no buildup at all. Some people probably forgot who these women are at this point. Oh, and in the introductions, the ring announcer referred to Alundra Blayze as “he”. Come on, she’s not that ugly! Anyway, Faye wins with a powerbomb in an upset to take the title. The match was okay, but not great. Blayze does some cool stuff, but Faye is not very good. The crowd really didn’t care about this. Oh, and I get some Vlad the superfan sightings here, as usual. Next is the Casket Match: The Undertaker (w/Paul Bearer) vs. Kama (w/Ted Dibiase)
So Kama took the Undertaker’s urn at a previous PPV and had it melted down and turned into a neckless, so this is a grudge match for the Undertaker. However, that was a couple of months ago, and this feud has had no buildup or no progression or interaction between these guys since then. The WWF has really done a poor job of promoting most of the matches in this PPV, except for the ladder match and the WWF title match. The Undertaker won, of course. This match wasn’t great, but was decent enough. It did last too long though. Kama had some really long rest holds on Undertaker. Take those away, and this match was all right. The crowd loved the end, though, so I guess this match served its purpose. Everybody seemed to forget the rules of a casket match. Kama went for a pin at one point and even announcer Jerry Lawler talked about getting a pin. Next match is Bret “Hitman” Hart vs. Isaac Yankem DDS
Jerry Lawler wanted revenge against Bret Hart for losing the Kiss My Foot match, so he got his demented dentist, Isaac Yankem, to do his dirty work for him. Luckily, Yankem would get a better gimmick later in his career. I can understand Lawler wanting to get someone else to take care of Hart for him, but why make him a dentist? That just makes it a bit too silly. To make it worse, Yankem didn’t have one single wrestling appearance (at least not on the top two short – Raw and Superstars) prior to this PPV. It’s ridiculous to put someone into a major match in a PPV with zero prior TV appearances. The fans weren’t too invested in this, for obvious reasons. It goes back to what I said about the WWF doing a poor job of building most of the matches for this PPV. Anyway, the match itself was okay. The ending was bad (Bret wins on a DQ when Lawler gets involved) but Bret did his best to help carry the very green Yankem, who did at least give a good effort. And I’ll once again complain that Bret Hart’s music stinks, and they should have kept his Hart Foundation music. Next we get the Intercontinental Championship Ladder Match: Shawn Michaels (champ) vs. Razor Ramon
This was a really great match. It went for over 25 minutes and the time was well used. I don’t know whether this match or their Wrestlemania 10 ladder match was better, but they’re both great. Shaw wins, and the end was slightly botched as Shawn had trouble getting the belt down and had to try it again, but other than that, a classic match. I knew Shawn would win, but that didn’t detract from it. And the main event is for the WWE Championship: Diesel (champ) vs. King Mabel (w/Sir Mo)
This match kinda sucked. Diesel wins with a clothesline off the ropes for the win. It wasn’t well executed, possibly because Mabel did a sit-down splash on Diesel’s back even though Diesel told him not to do anything to his back because he had a back injury. Vince was reportedly furious and wanted to fire Mabel but Diesel supposedly talked him out of it. Oh, and it wouldn’t be a mid-90’s WWF PPV without a ref bump so yes, we get one of those here, too. Good, I was worried that the streak would be broken. Lex Luger shows up at the end to make the save as Mabel and Mo attack Diesel after the match. Really odd to see Luger here as he wasn’t appeared at all in the PPV and hasn’t really appeared on TV at all in a while (though he was doing some house shows) and the only storyline with him is that his tag team partner turned heel so I guess we weren’t sure whether or not Luger turned heel with him or not. Well, it didn’t matter as Luger turned to WCW a week or two after this, anyway. Overall, I thought that this was a decent PPV. One great match (the ladder match), one bad match (the main event) and everything else ranged from bearable to enjoyable. One of the better 1995 WWF PPV’s, anyway. However, once again the main event is the worst match on the card (or close to it) thanks to McMahon’s obsession with huge guys regardless of their skill level. The WWF roster in general is a bit thin at this point, though. As an aside, they set up a feud between Bam Bam Bigelow (who recently turned face - McMahon is falsely claiming that he quit the Million Dollar Corporation, but he was fired first) and Ted DiBiase's Million Dollar Corporation, but, much like the Undertaker-Kama feud, after setting things up they have proceeded to ignore it for a couple of months. Very odd booking. You can't totally hate the Blu Brothers, since they smacked around Shawn Michaels when he let his alligator mouth overload his canary @$$ one too many times. The SS t-shirts, in TNA, are a different story, though. Barry Horowitz did the losing streak into a fluke win several times, including a memorable turn, in Florida, where he was Jack Hart. He gets the win and sides with Percy Pringle and his Dynasty of champions and beat Mike Graham, in a tournament, to become the Florida Champion. Not too long ago, he rolled up another win, at Impact Wrestling, defeating Johnny Swinger. In regards to Japanese babyfaces, Tiger Mask was treated as a babyface, in the WWF, under Sr, as was Tatsumi Fujinami, and Taka Michinoku started as a babyface, before they brought in all of Kaientai (or switched him to working with them.....I wasn't fully watching WWF, at that point). Great Sasuke also worked as a babyface. Vince totally dropped the ball on Rhonda Singh, aka Monster Ripper, aka Bertha Faye. More of his hillbilly fixation and fat shaming. They brought in some women from All-Japan Women, then buried the matches. Typical. WCW didn't exactly do right by her, either (or Leilani Kai). |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 12, 2024 21:23:55 GMT -5
I recently watched Fall Brawl 1995This is from Asheville, North Carolina, with Tony Schiavone, Bobby Hennan, and Gene Okerlund. The main event is the Hulkamaniacs vs. the Dungeon of Doom. The first match is Brian Pillman vs. Johnny B. Badd
The winner is going to get a US Title shot against Sting. Johnny B. Badd beats Brian Pillman after a crossbody off the ropes at 29:13. This was an excellent match. It started very slowly, but built into something really good. Some very good storytelling here, too, though the end was perhaps a little anticlimactic I the way it happened. Both guys are faces here. One complaint I have is that this match had a 20 minute time limit. After the 20 minutes expired, and the bell rung to end the match, they then announced that the match must have a winner, so it will go into sudden death overtime. Why the HECK even both to have a time limit in the first place, then??? That makes NO sense! That’s just typical WCW stupidity. Also, as the match was about to expire (before anyone knew that they’d continue the match anyway) both wrestlers are trying submission holds, which doesn’t make a ton of sense with the clock ticking down. There was also one point where the ref stopped the count because one of the wrestlers was under the plane of the ropes (though not touching the rope). They never do this in WWF. There, you have to actually touch the rope. I guess WCW has slightly different rules. At least WCW did something smart by having this as an opening match. Next match is Cobra v. Sgt. Craig “Pitbull” Pittman
Both guys are new to WCW, especially Cobra, whom I’ve neve seen before. They both have military gimmicks and I guess the story here is that Pittman (the heel) abandoned Cobra on a mission. Anyway, Cobra comes out to the ring, but Pittman is nowhere to be found. As Cobra is looking over to the entranceway, waiting for Pittman to show up, Pittman reels down from the rafters behind Cobra and attacks him from behind! I have to admit, that was a very cool entrance. However, the match itself was nothing, as Pittman slaps his armbar submission hold onto Cobra after about a minute. The entrance took considerably long than the match. Next is the WCW Television Title Match: The Renegade (champ) vs. Diamond Dallas Page (w/The Diamond Doll and Max Muscle)
DDP is able to finish off the Renegade (a second rate Ultimate Warrior) with his Diamond Cutter after Max Muscle grabs Renegade’s foot. The Diamond Doll looks unhappy over her man’s victory, so I guess there’s trouble in paradise. This match was better than I thought it would be. It was nothing special, but it was decent. Next match is for the WCW World Tag Team Championship: Bunkhouse Buck and Dirty Dick Slater (champs) w/ Colonel Robert Parker vs. Harlem Heat w/ Sister Sherri
We’ve got a budding romance between Colonel Parker and Sherri as a side show here. The Nasty Boys come in and hit Slater with a boot for some reason, allowing Harlem Heat to cover and win. We have new tag team champs! The usual chaotic WCW tag team match. Anyway, this match kinda stunk, IMHO. Though both teams are heels, the crowd seemed to be rooting for Harlem Heat. Can’t say as though I blame them. Next is Arn Anderson v. Ric Flair
We get promos from both guys as well as a video package showing how these long time best friends have become enemies and now will face each other in the ring. This match went over 22 minutes and Arn Anderson gets the upset win when Brian Pillman comes ringside and kicks Flair in the head (which obviously the ref didn’t see) which allows Anderson to deliver his DDT and cover Flair for the win! This was a very good match. Excellent storytelling and good action. Finally, we get the WarGames Match: Hulkaaniacs (Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Sting & Lex Luge) vs. the Dungeon of Doom (Kamala, the Shark, the Zodiac & Meng - w/Kevin Sullivan)
The stipulation is if Hogan’s team wins he gets five minutes alone in the cage with Kevin Sullivan It’s tough to see the action in these WarGames matches, with the type of cage they use plus the double ring. Anyway, Hogan of course cheats the second he enters the rings, throwing white powder in the heels’ eyes. What a scumbag. Of course everyone loves it, though. He follows with the back scratch and choking with a piece of tape from his wrist. What a hero. The “good” guys win when Hogan (of course) gets the submission on Zodiac in a Camel Clutch of sorts. The end was a bit anticlimactic. Personally I thought the match was boring, but the crowd seemed to enjoy it, so what do I know? Afterwards, Kevin Sullivan is supposed to get into the cage with Hogan. He tries to escape but is forced back in. Hogan beats in him for a couple of minutes, then the Giant (supposedly Andre’s son, and he had run over Hogan’s motorcycle earlier in the day) comes in and attacks hogan from behind and beats him down. Hogan is left in a heap as they call for parmedics. Heenan is laughing hysterically to close the show, which was awesome. So overall, I thought that the opening match (Badd-Pillman) was excellent, Flair-Anderson was quite good, and the rest of the show was not very good. However, I think a lot of people liked the main event, so that’s fine. Overall, a somewhat below average PPV, though not necessarily terrible. Cobra was the former Jumpin' Jeff Farmer...... of IPW infamy and also worked for the Florida indie IWF, along with Clark Haines, as Thunder (Haines) and Lightning (Farmer). He and Haines had worked in WCW as Thunder & Lightning, then worked Tennessee and Carolina indies, until his return, as Cobra. Pittman was a legit Marine, Cobra was supposed to be "CIA Special Ops", to which I responded with BRAVO SIERRA. Farmer then became the fake Sting, aka NWO Sting and also Super J, in New Japan. He had at least one dark match in the WWF, prior to the Cobra gimmick. Somehow, Pittman was supposed to have been Cobra's CO, which made no sense, since he was a non-com and wasn't even Marine Force Recon. He actually was on the Marine Corps wrestling team, so I don't think he was deployed, during the Gulf War. He took part in the Japan Vale Tudo (promoted by Satoru "Tiger Mask" Sayama, and the Shooto association) 1995, defeating Wayne Emons, in the first round, then lost to Yuki Nakai, who was half blind, from an injury to his eye, in his first fight. Nakai went in at 135 lbs and Pittman had about 100 pounds on him. Nakai defeated Gerard Gordeau, in the first round, with a heel hook, but took several gouges and punches to the eye. he was half blind fighting Pittman, but submitted him in the second round. He then faced Rickson Gracie, in the finals, with both eyes nearly swollen shut. He ended up losing sight in his right eye. The torunament was chronicled in the documentary "Choke, which followed Gracie, American Todd Hayes (who was also an Olympic bobsledder, and Koichiro Kimura, who had done worked shoot wrestling, for Akira Maeda's RINGS promotion (and Maeda is there in his corner, for the tournament). |
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 13, 2024 9:03:11 GMT -5
I do like a bit of action figure discussion now and again! The WWF Hasbro line ran from 1990 to 1994, featuring solid plastic figures with a “signature action move”. The first wave, in 1990, had blue cards. And note every signature move necessarily matched the real-life counterparts. This was the first figure my mother bought me, at a store in Lichfield:  Did Hogan ever do a gorilla press? No. But I guess the Legdrop of Doom wouldn’t have been easy to replicate in a figure. The other figure I was bought at the same time was Ax, so it was Hogan vs. Ax for a while. Unlike Galoob’s WCW figures, solid plastic with no moveability, there were things you could do with the WWF figures. Having Hogan in Bret’s sharpshooter would have been impossible, but having Hogan do the gorilla press on Andre would have been doable. From the perspective of today, it’s debatable whether the 1990-94 Hasbro line is the best WWF line. I guess a case could be made that LJN’s WWF line is the best. And some modern figures have lots more articulation. But I think that the 1990-94 Hasbro Era was much loved by many, including me. |
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Sept 13, 2024 10:35:34 GMT -5
I did have a few Hasbro WWF figures, but I could never find one of my hero at the time, Bret Hart. This was extra frustrating because I lived in Calgary back then! Anyway, my wife was in Portland last weekend and texted me a pic of a bunch of WWF Hasbro and LJN figures on sale at some shop she was in. And one was my childhood Holy Grail, Bret Hart! Unfortunately the seller wanted $80 USD for it (more than $100 Canadian), which was far more than I would consider. Oh well
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 13, 2024 10:46:49 GMT -5
I did have a few Hasbro WWF figures, but I could never find one of my hero at the time, Bret Hart. This was extra frustrating because I lived in Calgary back then! Anyway, my wife was in Portland last weekend and texted me a pic of a bunch of WWF Hasbro and LJN figures on sale at some shop she was in. And one was my childhood Holy Grail, Bret Hart! Unfortunately the seller wanted $80 USD for it (more than $100 Canadian), which was far more than I would consider. Oh well I do empathize with you. Hopefully that opportunity will come again. |
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Post by codystarbuck on Sept 13, 2024 22:38:05 GMT -5
For those interested in Barry Horowitz, he just appeared on Wrestling with Rip Rogers..... (Warning...Rip is a salty old rassler) www.youtube.com/live/jvURkDnT5Ss?si=-3SXf2fS2bO7SFTbRip worked with him in Florida, when Wahoo McDaniel was booking, when Horowitz was Jack Hart. (EDIT: there must be some kind of block, due to Rip's language, that prevents it form appearing embedded_. |
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 14, 2024 10:33:41 GMT -5
One site has reported that The Undertaker said this on a podcast:
If that is what he said, I couldn’t disagree more.
A guy the size of Gunther, with his moveset, should NEVER play the chicken shit heel. Just like Earthquake shouldn’t have, or any monster you can think of.
That role for heels is best suited for smaller, agile wrestlers.
Unless there further context to that quote, or I have it wrong, I don’t know where Undertaker is coming from on that.
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 15, 2024 7:07:51 GMT -5
I never played this one, what about the rest of you?  |
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Post by Ricky Jackson on Sept 15, 2024 9:25:01 GMT -5
Can't say I've ever heard of that one. Looks like it was for the Sega Master System, which I think had stopped selling games in the North American market by then. For a game called Steel Cage Challenge it seems to feature a distinct lack of steel cages. Also, Bret Hart is labelled "Ric Flair" and vice versa in the text
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Post by driver1980 on Sept 15, 2024 12:54:53 GMT -5
Can't say I've ever heard of that one. Looks like it was for the Sega Master System, which I think had stopped selling games in the North American market by then. For a game called Steel Cage Challenge it seems to feature a distinct lack of steel cages. Also, Bret Hart is labelled "Ric Flair" and vice versa in the text I hadn’t noticed the Bret/Flair mistake. As for a distinct lack of steel cage matches, indeed. You’d think at least one image in that screencap would feature a steel cage. |
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